California to ban gas lawn mowers and leaf blowers
 

California to ban gas lawn mowers, leaf blowers | TheHill

Start getting your electric toys and chargers now, before the rush! I love the electric lawn mover and leaf blower,. . for the small yards up north and in TV

electric guy

Wow! If we could have quieter service in TV - wouldn’t that be a dream? California is subsidizing the change over, trying for zero carbon footprint. I’m not complaining but I could get used to not being woken up pretty well every day to the sound of gas powered equipment.

You must sleep late. Most of them don't start mowing until well after 7am. :a040:

Glad we do not live there.

Why? You love the gasoline?? :a040:

I LOVE California!!! Left Florida in ‘93 for southern CA. It’s still my home as well as TV. You can’t beat the weather in SoCal.

Warning: keep the political/homeless/jobless-on-purpose statements out of the thread or it will be closed.

It’s proposed to go into effect Jan 1 2024

That would never fly where we live at our northern home. Try maintaining 10 acres with electric powered equipment. On second thought, it could work, as long as they only banned gas but not diesel.

My 30+ year old Stihl is in the shop needing a few new parts, but CA are just banning the new sales, didn't say you couldn't use one. . . at the moment. They should just stick to lawn mowers and leaf blowers as they are already very many reliable electric options.

They might rethink the gas chainsaws when performing vegetation management around power lines to prevent fires, etc. . . and clearing out round houses . . .

not sure where the moderator gets the proactive connection to homeless and non working people with a gas small engine mandate. . . that one escapes me. . .

Reliable electric options for lawnmowers and leaf blowers might be OK for those with a small lot and not a lot of leaves. They wouldn’t work in my yard, I need a diesel tractor (50 horse Kubota), a gas powered zero turn mower (Gravely with a 48 inch mower deck), both a backpack leaf blower (Stihl two cycle gas) and push leaf blower on wheels (Giantvac), along with a push gas mower for tight spaces (Honda), a good two cycle gas weed wacker (Husqvarna), and my trusty Stihl and Jonsered two cycle gas chain saws. And the tractor, of course, needs a bunch of attachments including a front end loader, backhoe, plow, brush hog, york rake, forks, and a wood splitter. Good thing I don’t live on the left coast.

7 AM is super early. If I need to be up before 9:30-11:30 I need to set an alarm.

Hope it does not spread, I am heavily invested in my John Deere ride on and my backpack blower. My trimmer is electric though. Down in Florida I have a company doing the lawn.

Makita makes some fine electric yard machines.

Probably only in LA. SD, and SF. No way the farming can go totally electric. What they need to and desert state’s is ban golf courses and swimming pools. they ARE runout or water, no hydroelectric power. Anybody watch golf tournament in Vegas week or so go. Golf course in desert looked better than ones in eastern coastal states.

I totally support any law that will ban leaf blowers.

How about a law to ban wind chimes?

You’re still going to hear turbine blowing air (movement of large quantities of air) and blades on mower (which makes majority of the noise turning the blades) Just cause it’s electric don’t mean it don’t make noise. IMO only reason gas blowers are real loud cause Rhe removed baffles in mufflers same goes with weed wackier’s.

My son in Pittsburgh has an electric walk behind mower that is very quiet. He also has a lawn mower tractor that can rapidly mow his large 1 acre lawn. It has 4 batteries! I operated it and I can tell you it is fast, efficient and very quiet. My neighbor here in The Villages has an electric walk behind mower and an electric edger. I see him mowing but you can hardly hear him. Now what a different story with the lawn mowing crews who show up and make a ton of noise for hours. Definitely affects quality of life. I like to sit on my patio in the morning, but when these guys show up I go back in the house. Electric machines are the future. Noise pollution is not healthy. Come on, I know we are all old here, but can’t we accept the new technologies? Just mention “California” and many Villagers begin to go spastic. I lived there for awhile. It was extremely noisy. Highway and landscaper noise drove me crazy. I moved back to New Hampshire and bought two quiet acres in the woods far from any highways. Unfortunately, The Villages is getting crowded and becoming surrounded by more and more building. Routes 466A and 44 have both turned into another 441. I could do with a little more quiet. Of course, right now I have a gas edger and mower so I am part of the problem, but when I replace them I am going electric.

As a lifelong Californian (until moving here to please my wife and try something new) I can say the PG&E was screwing the California citizen for decades. They had the "old school" politicians in their hip pocket and did pretty much what they wanted with little push back. You name it, they got it, yet we can see the shoddiness of the infrastructure they built. There is some "what goes around, comes around" going on now with a political generation more interested in quality of life of the citizens and holding utilities and large corps responsible for their messes.
Many roll their eyes at what happens in California. I would remind them that change moves east in the USA so get ready for it.

Is it just the two-stroke engines, as they are the more noisy and polluting ones?

I have noticed a big difference in TV since the new gas-engined carts started coming on stream - quieter and less polluting. I assume they are four-stroke?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

It is a political topic. Why was it allowed in the first place?

I lived there for quite a while...
 

get rid of all the people and it's a fine place to dwell.

UK is banning gas cars in 2030. I hope CA does too.

*yawn* and the wacky people who love battery operated things rarely mention: a)where the electricity comes from(wind turbines and solar panels are not efficient enough to power squat)? b)what power do the companies use to mfr the batteries and mower? c)who mines the materials for mfr and what about their fuel? d)what you do when the batteries and mowers go kaput?

It's amazing to me that some folks just think electricity, mining and spent material just appear and disappear like magic. Very short sighted.

If this post is removed then whoever is making that decision just doesn't want facts to interfere with their narrative.

There is no denying that a move to a new form of power to drive pretty much everything is and will be messy. Just like moving to our current oil based power infrastructure was messy (to put it mildly). That does not change the fact that it is happening. Hop on the electric train or get out of the way.

Misleading. What they are actually doing is banning the sale of new gas cars in 2030.

I suspect there were the same, tired arguments 100 years ago when some people thought that a motor car would be better than a horse-drawn cart.

We turn a blind eye to the side-effects of extracting and burning petroleum, and the disposal of old cars, tires etc., yet anything involving what (sorry to have to break this to you) will definitely be the near future sends the Luddites into a tizzy.

Plus ca change...

...and as the actress said to the Bishop, "Good luck with that!"

my son just bought a million+ dollar house in South Pasadena....on a postage size lot, just like everybody else's tiny lot

for the size yard he has mow, an electric/battery mower would easily do the trick...as far as a leaf blower, that's another story.

electric leaf blowers are fine for a small job like clearing a driveway, but not for anything serious

I have a rechargeable leaf blower...I'm forever going to get the rake because I've gone through both batteries and I want to finish the job

You forgot to mention that the ban includes golf carts!
 

BTW - Lots of electricity is generated by coal.

Great post, thank you! Hopefully before any of these whacky ideas are adopted mainstream I'll be dead! I venture to say most of us will.

Hopefully less and less. Coal is a dead end.

So, how water supply out there? I here it’s beginning to dry up due to all the expansion in desert, swimming pools, golf course, and green lawn. Las Vegas is probably in bigger trouble?

We will all be dead, before coal ends. :duck:

Depends on size?

My EGO electric blower blows just as hard as gas blower when I push the turbo button. (but that burns through battery pretty quick). I can get 7.0 AL battery to last hour plus but battery $350 dollars or more, lasts about 5 years depending on how many times it’s charged up.

I'm sure you are correct. After all, you can still buy buggy whips today, but I don't recommend it as a growth industry.

I wonder what the commercial landscapers will do, I don't think they make 48 inch electric mowers yet.

here ir is
 

Its only the sale of these items in the state, you will still be able to use them...So when this takes effect in 2024 just order from amazon..:a040:

I can’t agree with the comparison. I own a good quality electric blower for our small lot Villages home. On the regular setting it will blow dry debris from the driveway and on the turbo setting it will manage to blow debris that is damp. It struggles to blow wet leaves out of our gutters on the turbo setting. My Stihl 2 cycle blower that I use at our northern home will blow huge piles of soaking wet leaves and if I am not careful it will blow the rocks right off of the rock wall. I wouldn’t dare try to use the Stihl to clean the gutters because it would blow the shingles off the roof. The comparison is not even remotely close, the Stihl blows category 5 hurricane force winds out a small tube and is an absolutely amazing piece of equipment.