Any pros and cons on ez golf carts with new lithium batthey vs. yahama gas
 

We have had our gas cart for 5 years and like the quiet of electric plus no need to go get gas offen. Heard Starr and par car not good, but what about EZ GO with new Lithium battery

Oh Boy, here we go.

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The range of a gas cart is about 2 to 2.5 times longer than an electric cart, the refuel time for gas is way shorter than electric. I cannot comment on the economics price of gas and maintenance versus cost of replacement batteries and charging, I will leave this to others.

I have an electric with lithium. It has over 9000 miles and 2 1/2 years on it. I got 65-70 miles per charge on day 1 (a little less with heat or air cond running) and still get 65-70 per charge almost 3 years later (zero battery degradation). As for "time to charge" I plug it in once every 5-6 days at night and by morning it is fully charged. The charger is built in (like a Tesla :) ) and I just plug it in to the wall. No fuss, no need to go to a gas station or dump gas from a gas can,

My only suggestion is, **IF** you choose to get electric **ONLY** get lithium.

Have an EZGO lithium with 4k mi, no problems, 70mi range, 8 yr warranty on battery with virtually no maintenance, 3 hr for full recharge, quiet, good acceleration, no exhaust fumes.

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I was going to buy one but quickly learned that there are 3 battery options. The lowest priced option will only get you 20-25 mile range, even though it’s lithium. The second and 3rd option became a little cost prohibitive for me. Good luck.

Lithium costs as the last poster mentioned can get very high some places state $1500 yet this depends on the battery, it is possible based on the technology, that you could spend upwards of $8000 to replace them.

But all that really doesn't matter as much as what has been experienced with them. Your largest issues is Low Voltage typical batteries of the size you require have a problem if they hit 3v and lower basically in most common uses it's buy another one. Another is these batteries under certain conditions can get thermal runaway which can lead to it smoking or even exploding. There are 3 other issues with them.

With that said , in mist cases there is a remedy but it will take time, sometimes days, to find out if you saved your batteries or not.

Personally I don't get the noise complaint, but I'm used to motorcycles etc. I'd rather put gas in it and not worry about how much longer I have to go before a charge and no I don't have a gas can in the garage all my tools and mower are battery. Just not the golf cart just didn't make sense.

i am a Yamaha Gas Cart owner, i wouldn't own anything else! I just bought mine because i wanted to make my life easier.. I would not rule out an electric Lithium cart in the future, but not till the battery issues get resolved.. Florida Heat Kills Batteries.... Good luck

If you want terror in your life, buy a ParCar, or Star electric. I have owned both lost my a-s on the each , poor service, no parts available , went to Yamaha gas and have slept well ever since.

We got a revolution cart, still new but about 25% less expensive than the EZ-Go. Again charger on board

So electric and green lithium batteries are great. But from a save the planet aspect they are a nightmare to the earth and humans. From the destruction of the forests to mine the lithium, poor wages and working conditions paid to minors.

The biggest problem is how to dispose of the millions of batteries each year. But when the battery comes to the end of its life, its green benefits fade. If it ends up in a landfill, its cells can release problematic toxins, including heavy metals. And recycling the battery can be a hazardous business, warns materials scientist Dana Thompson of the University of Leicester. Cut too deep into a Tesla cell, or in the wrong place, and it can short-circuit, combust, and release toxic fumes.

Had a Star cart for 12 years with almost 30000 miles. Sold for close to what we paid for it. Never had a mechanical problem or ran out of charge in the 10 years. Had a flat tire once. Have the EZGo Lithium cart now and love it. Charges quickly.

We love our EZ-GO lithium electric cart. Only one battery. Charges quickly, no fuss or muss. No maintenance like with gas. Life of battery could be 6-8 years. Yes, might cost $800-$900 to replace then, but we have not been paying for gas or maintenance. We live South of 44 and go up to play golf, go to Lake Sumter etc and still have more than half a charge. Quiet, no smell. All positive!

Star is a Chinese product. I would be concerned about getting parts for repair.

We bought an Evolution lithium battery cart recently after always having had golf carts, and are thrilled with the ease of charging, and the smooth, quiet ride.

One more vote for the EZGO Elite lithium.
9K miles, zero issues, 60 miles range at 24mph.
rated for 2500 cycles (charge from 30% to 100%)
Thats past my expiration date.🎚

If you are going to go electric, check out the Atomic golf carts
They are;
Air Conditioned
Heated
Much more leg room
Adjustable seats
Windshield wipers and washer
Sirius XM Radio
Back up camera
Real headlights
Street legal
And much more
Similar price to Yamaha and Ezgo
I love mine would never get anything else

You run out of gas on some cart path somewhere, and it's a relatively easy matter for someone to get some gas to you. I'm thinking running out of electricity under the same scenario would be an entirely different matter.

EZGO has two 72 volt electric cart versions, Elite Lithium and and Deep Cycle (the one you water). Comparisons:

Both are 72 volt, however the Elite Lithium actually runs on a 56 volt system. The Deep Cycle is a true 72 volt system.

The Elite Lithium has a 11.7 hp (8.7 kW) motor. The Deep Cycle has a whopping 22.4 hp (16.7 kW) motor. For reference, gas carts have 13.5 hp motors. Deep Cycle power smokes a gas cart without smoking.

Both have AC controllers. The Elite has a 235 amp while the DeepCycle has a whopping 350 amp. More torque with the Deep Cycle, but both blow away the measly torque of a gas cart.

Both have direct drive motor shaft versus a clutch on gas carts. That’s why they get up and go so quick unless waiting behind a gas cart to slooowly get going especially up hills - say we have no hills in Florida - just get behind a gas cart when coming out of a tunnel or going across one of the big bridges, especially Spanish Springs!

The Elite Lithium requires no battery maintenance. The Deep Cycle requires watering. Watering once a month takes about 20 minutes or less than 5 minutes if you fork out $400 at the start for a watering kit. Then it’s less time and less messy than fueling up a gas cart.

Battery(ies) for both carts will last 7-8 years if taken care of - mainly watering Deep Cycle. At 5 years, cost to replace batteries on Deep Cycle is break even with gas cart’s fuel and maintenance over the same period. Get eight years out of the batteries and you are about $800 to $1,000 less than a gas cart over the same period.

Distance of travel will be about 25% more with Deep Cycle as compared to the Elite Lithium. Both will go from Spanish Springs to Fenny, play 18 holes of golf, and sight see on the way home with a lot of charge to spare.

Never visit a gas station with either, just plug in at home each night.

Cost per mile is about 2 cents for both versus 8 cents for a gas cart (does not include gas cart maintenance).

And, keep in mind these are not the 48 volt electric carts that formed most peoples opinion on electric carts. These are 72 volt, high torque, powerful, low maintenance carts with exceptional range.

As far as EZGO as a company, they are over 3 times bigger than their closest competitor.

I’m partial to the EZGO 72 volt Deep Cycle because I have a 2018. Best performing cart I’ve ever had. No maintenance except tire pressure and battery watering (get the watering kit). However, both are great carts. Smooth quiet ride, and no stink!

Hope this helps :popcorn:

Run out of gas or charge and you've kinda "got what ya had comin to ya"
With the gauge of either blaring at you.

Wow! Sounds more like an expensive automobile than a golf cart.

But how much electricity do all those gizmos use? I'm only guessing here...but if you use items such as the heater or the A/C routinely, it cuts into your range significantly.

You either like a battery cart or you own gas. Give me gas.

A jerky, smelly, noisy, hot cart that has NO guts? M'kay

Lithium batteries are going to run you a few thousand more $800-$900, depending on size of the lithium batteries, many thousands more. Over 8 years, is the cost justified of changing the batteries out vs doing an oil change/tune up each year?

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I wish I had gotten a gas one.Moved here 5 months ago and didn't realize how important a good cart is here. From North of Sumpter I couldn't do a long drive say down to Fenney and back as battery life may not be enough.
Also didn't realize how cool it can get. Cool? Heck down right cold.LOL Will be trading in for a new one.

In Amelia too and also from Columbus. What part? I have an Evolution lithium cart, love it.

Big difference when it comes to distance and refueling.
 

You can fill up a gas cart in a few minutes - charging a battery - longer of course

I have an atomic car and while the A/C and heater does cut the amount of range it's not "significant" surprisingly. Yes its like a small car. I like it because it has a metal cage around you and steel safety bars in the doors. I'm sure it's not as safe as a "real" car but way safer than a traditional golf cart where some people drive around without seat belts and with their leg hanging out of the cart. The 4 door Atomic cart is actually a little cheaper than a fully equipped EZGo electric cart. We like it a lot.

Also some people say, " the gas cart can go from one end of the Villages to the other while an electric may not make it " but i'm not sure many go that far often. For us in Osceola Hills it will take us 56 minutes by cart and 15 minutes by car to go to Fenney so we take the car for trips to Fenney. On the other hand to get to Ezell it will take us 25 minutes so we would probably take the cart.

I replaced by Club Car electric cart with a new Yamaha Quiet 2, and while I love the Yamaha, I miss the extreme quiet and good acceleration of the Club Car. I thought about an EZ-GO lithium cart, but I think resale is going to be a problem. If you try to sell a lithium cart with 5 years on the batteries, be prepared for a big discount on its value.

Don't forget...
 

non-green energy to make your cart and battery and the energy you charge your cart with isn't green either...then the cost of refurbishing or disposing of the batteries.

Green energy people do not either understand how things work or just ignore the obvious.

What are this carts costing .?

Thank you. These are great points that never seem to come out in the MSM regarding so called renewable energy sources - solar, wind, and battery storage. So the point is don't buy an EV to save the earth.

On our lifestyle visit we had an ezgo lithium and absolutely loved it. I would not be concerned at all about range as we went from Marsh Bend to palmer and golfed 27 holes, then to Lake Sumter for early dinner and back down to Marsh Bend and still had 2/3 charge. From what I experienced going to full charge was only a couple of hours in most use cases.

That said we bought Yamaha gas for a few reasons.
1. It was available and the ezgo was not at the time.
2. The only electric we found available was the evolution and we couldn't find a lot of information about their history/reliability
3. The yamaha was a more comfortable ride then both the Ezgo and Evolution.

Easy choice for me. I’ve owned, used as and been totally satisfied with E-Z-GO “wet” electric carts for more than 20 years. My batteries will need replacement in a year or so. When that’s needed, I intend to replace my wet batteries with lithium ion. My battery dealer-service provider, Battery Boys, tells me they can install Li batteries that will give me as much range as I need here in The Villages. They’re expensive, but need no maintenance and have a very long 100% warranty.

Gimme an L, gimme an I, etc...
 

We've had our EZ-GO Elite for about a year, and we couldn't be happier with it. It cost a premium $17k from Villages Golf Carts, but there is basically NO maintenance, 60+ miles of range in the two lithium battery packs, and with an 8-year warranty it'll probably be here when I ain't.

In the great Chugger/Hummer argument, I'm smack on the Hummer side!

This has been discussed over and over again. NOTHING IS PERFECT.

Lithium batteries have gotten cheaper, the reason why where they used to used nicads in rechargeable tools, Lithium batteries are taking over. They are lighter for the same capacity. It is even more so in a golf cart lead acid vs lithium.

A lead acid battery, the voltage falls off as the battery discharges making it easy and cheap to measure the remaining charge. Lead is also heavy. A lithium battery has a flat voltage curve, making it more difficult, less accurate and expensive to monitor the remaining run time.

Claimed range? The stated range, is likely optimistic and it goes down as batteries age.
Also, if you run the lights that too will cost you range.

Noise-I think the noise is a plus. People, perhaps even unaware of it can hear you are there.

I suggest you check. Changing from lead acid to lithium you will likely need a new charger and to replace the gauge that indicates state of charge.

When, SELLING, anything you point out the positives not the negatives. How things work?
I've wondered how memory in a digital camera works. I've asked,"experts," and discovered they don't know either. Best answer was vodoo.

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Please do yourself a service and check out the evolution golf carts at Village Discount Golf. I bought mine 2 months ago and absolutely loved it! Also, I think that they are less expensive than some of the other electric golf carts made by brand names like Yamaha Etc. The guy I worked with was called Ron Evans. They will work with you on a good deal. Good luck!