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Rainger99 12-17-2021 11:25 AM

What are impact fees??
 
There is an article in today's paper about impact taxes going up 150%. I have never heard the term before but I did some research and they appear to be an assessment for infrastructure.

Southern residents voice concerns about tax increase | In Today's Daily Sun | The Villages Daily Sun | thevillagesdailysun.com

Are they the same as the bond? According to the following article, the impact fee for a 1,400–1,999-square-foot home in Palm Beach County is $12,469.43

How impact fees work in Florida and what changes under the new law | Palm Beach Roofing Press

However, I also read that a law that was passed this summer limits impact fees. As of June 4, 2021, jurisdictions can only increase impact fees once every four years in the following manner: Increases between 25 to 50 percent must be spread over four years, while smaller increases would be implemented in two equal installments.

If that is the case, how can Sumter be increasing them by up to 150%??

Bogie Shooter 12-17-2021 11:43 AM

////// had to cancel. Don’t want anymore demirits!

golfing eagles 12-17-2021 11:48 AM

What are impact fees??

Well, they are NOT something that requires the same post in triplicate

Oops, now it's quadruplicate:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

villagetinker 12-17-2021 11:55 AM

Go to the top of this page, click on SEARCH, enter Impcat fees and read lots of previous posts.

ElDiabloJoe 12-17-2021 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2040623)
////// had to cancel. Don’t want anymore demirits!

:1rotfl:

Think you meant demerits.

Bill14564 12-17-2021 12:22 PM

Interesting. Will have to wait for the BOCC minutes to be posted to see if this is a new proposal or if the paper is regurgitating old information that has already been OBE.

DAVES 12-17-2021 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2040619)
There is an article in today's paper about impact taxes going up 150%. I have never heard the term before but I did some research and they appear to be an assessment for infrastructure.

Southern residents voice concerns about tax increase | In Today's Daily Sun | The Villages Daily Sun | thevillagesdailysun.com

Are they the same as the bond? According to the following article, the impact fee for a 1,400–1,999-square-foot home in Palm Beach County is $12,469.43

How impact fees work in Florida and what changes under the new law | Palm Beach Roofing Press

However, I also read that a law that was passed this summer limits impact fees. As of June 4, 2021, jurisdictions can only increase impact fees once every four years in the following manner: Increases between 25 to 50 percent must be spread over four years, while smaller increases would be implemented in two equal installments.

If that is the case, how can Sumter be increasing them by up to 150%??

Nothing is new. Everyone wants but have creative ideas why someone, anyone but them should pay. It has always been and always will be so.

EdFNJ 12-17-2021 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2040630)
Go to the top of this page, click on SEARCH, enter Impcat fees and read lots of previous posts.

Impcats are running free on the streets. They're small but don't feed them as they multiply quickly.

tophcfa 12-17-2021 04:27 PM

I’ll give you two answers. They are fees necessary to pay for infrastructure that is required because of new development. They are fees that create great divide regarding who should rightfully be required to pay them.

champion6 12-17-2021 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2040619)
There is an article in today's paper about impact taxes going up 150%. I have never heard the term before but I did some research and they appear to be an assessment for infrastructure.

Southern residents voice concerns about tax increase | In Today's Daily Sun | The Villages Daily Sun | thevillagesdailysun.com

Are they the same as the bond? According to the following article, the impact fee for a 1,400–1,999-square-foot home in Palm Beach County is $12,469.43

How impact fees work in Florida and what changes under the new law | Palm Beach Roofing Press

However, I also read that a law that was passed this summer limits impact fees. As of June 4, 2021, jurisdictions can only increase impact fees once every four years in the following manner: Increases between 25 to 50 percent must be spread over four years, while smaller increases would be implemented in two equal installments.

If that is the case, how can Sumter be increasing them by up to 150%??

I believe this article was published in the Daily Sun in 2020, not 2021 as noted at the top of the article. It absolutely doesn't appear in the printed versions of the DS on Dec 16 or 17.

Bilyclub 12-17-2021 04:46 PM

Seems the Sun has started pushing candidates for the Sumter County Board. This Billardello guy has trying to get his name out there, but he appears to be the developer's guy in the story.

Bogie Shooter 12-17-2021 06:01 PM

Here we go…….:popcorn:


The bait is tossed out.

dewilson58 12-17-2021 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2040630)
Go to the top of this page, click on SEARCH, enter Impcat fees and read lots of previous posts.

Agree.................The Bait is out.

Tink has a great suggestion.

The OP could go to the County for a complete understanding.

Otherwise :popcorn:

Papa_lecki 12-17-2021 06:28 PM

Does anyone know anything about reverse mortgages?

Bogie Shooter 12-17-2021 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2040740)
Does anyone know anything about reverse mortgages?

I think it was mentioned on the “Gate Strikes “ thread.:ho:

Bilyclub 12-17-2021 11:21 PM

I'm sorta glad the OP pointed this out. There has to be a pretty devious reason for the Sun to rehash this so soon after the two got locked up.

thevillages2013 12-18-2021 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2040623)
////// had to cancel. Don’t want anymore demirits!

I feel you! Skating on thin ice myself :boxing2:

DaleDivine 12-18-2021 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2040748)
I think it was mentioned on the “Gate Strikes “ thread.:ho:

Dannngggg, I thought it was in the "DOG POOP" thread...
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

dewilson58 12-18-2021 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2040623)
////// had to cancel. Don’t want anymore demirits!

How long do nasty points last???

Bogie Shooter 12-18-2021 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2040864)
How long do nasty points last???

:shrug:

Topspinmo 12-18-2021 09:41 AM

Sum it up one of several ways to bleed residents.

COLTempleton 12-18-2021 09:41 AM

Yes, but they're impish (thus the name) and can be caught easily.

chenault55 12-18-2021 09:59 AM

Definition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2040738)
Agree.................The Bait is out.

Tink has a great suggestion.

The OP could go to the County for a complete understanding.

Otherwise :popcorn:

Does the OP I see a lot here mean old people or something else?

tophcfa 12-18-2021 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenault55 (Post 2040904)
Does the OP I see a lot here mean old people or something else?

LOL, it means original poster, but old person would also be appropriate.

dewilson58 12-18-2021 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenault55 (Post 2040904)
Does the OP I see a lot here mean old people or something else?

OPOP means Old Person Old Poster.

:1rotfl:

jarodrig 12-18-2021 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2040740)
Does anyone know anything about reverse mortgages?

Yes ! I’m interested in a RM !

Where can I find info about this ?? LOL 😂

kappy 12-18-2021 09:00 PM

Impact Fee Information
 
If you want to know how not collecting the appropriate impact fees caused Sumter County taxes to go up 25.5% in 2019 see Scott Fenstermaker - YouTube.
If you want to learn what impact fees are go to FlaglerLive.com and look for, “Impact Fees: What They Are, Who Pays Them, How Much They Pay.”

Ptmckiou 12-19-2021 07:51 AM

Answer
 
To answer your question…..new commercial development. The answer was in the first paragraph of the article.

Altavia 12-19-2021 01:34 PM

Impact fees are not necessary when building 5,000 new homes adding more that one billion in taxable real estate to the base every year.

In addition the developer provides the bonus of a new state of the art charter education facility with staff at no charge to the county.

tophcfa 12-19-2021 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2040864)
How long do nasty points last???

As long as the moderator deems it to be so, sometimes forever.

ScottFenstermaker 12-20-2021 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 2041259)
Impact fees are not necessary when building 5,000 new homes adding more that one billion in taxable real estate to the base every year.

In addition the developer provides the bonus of a new state of the art charter education facility with staff at no charge to the county.

Our 25% property-tax increase, enacted to protect the Developer's sweetheart impact fee, disproves that nonsense. BTW, charter schools are paid for with tax dollars, just like public schools.

JMintzer 12-20-2021 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottFenstermaker (Post 2041471)
Our 25% property-tax increase, enacted to protect the Developer's sweetheart impact fee, disproves that nonsense. BTW, charter schools are paid for with tax dollars, just like public schools.

The new charter schools being built are being paid for by The Developer, not your tax $$$...

Kenswing 12-20-2021 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottFenstermaker (Post 2041471)
Our 25% property-tax increase, enacted to protect the Developer's sweetheart impact fee, disproves that nonsense. BTW, charter schools are paid for with tax dollars, just like public schools.

Hey look! It's the Avacado reincarnated..

The Developer is building the schools but get education funding just like any other public school.

Charter Schools

Altavia 12-20-2021 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2041487)
Hey look! It's the Avacado reincarnated..

The Developer is building the schools but get education funding just like any other public school.

Charter Schools

Very interesting and thanks for the clarification.

I think it's safe to say thanks to the development, residents of The Villages are a primary source of funding to education in the county.

ScottFenstermaker 12-20-2021 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2041481)
The new charter schools being built are being paid for by The Developer, not your tax $$$...

I know that they are built and INITIALLY paid for by the Developer, but once up and running, the charter schools will be receiving our tax dollars in an amount adequate to cover the amortized (technically depreciated) original building costs. Those dollars are siphoned away from dollars that would otherwise go to Wildwood public schools. Although I agree with you that The Villages charter schools are state of the art and exceptionally well run, they are not a gift from the Developer.

golfing eagles 12-20-2021 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottFenstermaker (Post 2041512)
I know that they are built and INITIALLY paid for by the Developer, but once up and running, the charter schools will be receiving our tax dollars in an amount adequate to cover the amortized (technically depreciated) original building costs. Those dollars are siphoned away from dollars that would otherwise go to Wildwood public schools. Although I agree with you that The Villages charter schools are state of the art and exceptionally well run, they are not a gift from the Developer.

Welcome back, avocado. Glad to see you didn't change your tagline of "the developer's sweetheart impact fee deal":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter 12-20-2021 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2041529)
Welcome back, avocado. Glad to see you didn't change your tagline of "the developer's sweetheart impact fee deal":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Are we going to have to go thru all of that again?:a040:

Dana1963 12-20-2021 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2040619)
There is an article in today's paper about impact taxes going up 150%. I have never heard the term before but I did some research and they appear to be an assessment for infrastructure.

Southern residents voice concerns about tax increase | In Today's Daily Sun | The Villages Daily Sun | thevillagesdailysun.com

Are they the same as the bond? According to the following article, the impact fee for a 1,400–1,999-square-foot home in Palm Beach County is $12,469.43

How impact fees work in Florida and what changes under the new law | Palm Beach Roofing Press

However, I also read that a law that was passed this summer limits impact fees. As of June 4, 2021, jurisdictions can only increase impact fees once every four years in the following manner: Increases between 25 to 50 percent must be spread over four years, while smaller increases would be implemented in two equal installments.

If that is the case, how can Sumter be increasing them by up to 150%??

If it came from the Daily Sun developer owned newspaper.
Thought this was a settled matter when Gov DeSantis signed controversial bill in June.

Altavia 12-20-2021 07:55 PM

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ScottFenstermaker 12-22-2021 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2041529)
Welcome back, avocado. Glad to see you didn't change your tagline of "the developer's sweetheart impact fee deal":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You are right. The sweetheart impact fee remains in place, our massive tax hike that subsidizes it does as well, and many residents are oblivious as to what is going on. Only now the ante has been raised, with the arrest of two of the Commissioners who pledged to increase the fee and roll back the tax increase.

Although all the facts are not yet publicly available, the arrests appear to be the result of a carefully orchestrated perjury trap set up to enable the two Commissioners to be removed from office and replaced with subs who are friendly to the Developer. I know both Search and Miller and would be amazed if either one actually committed perjury-- although the Daily Sun seems intent on convicting them in the court of public opinion.


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