TIPPING when placing an order>>>
 

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Read this article on Yahoo just now.

Customers hate tipping before they're served – and asking makes them less likely to return

Imagine you’re in line at a coffee shop. You order your usual cappuccino and swipe your credit card to pay. Then the cashier swivels a little screen that prompts you for a tip – before the espresso shot is pulled or a drop of milk steamed.

Do you tip more, perhaps hoping that it will lead to a better drink? Or less or none at all, peeved at being asked to reward service that hasn’t happened yet? Do you feel pressured into tipping the suggested amounts, which can equate to more than half the price of the drink?
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Unsure how many places in The Villages may do this. But I absolutely recall this at Panera in Lake Sumter a couple years ago. They seemed to have a new method, if paying by credit card - the order-taker would swing the screen around towards you to press OK after pressing the TIP amount. Of course you COULD press 0, and OK. But in the 3 cases we ordered she would hover right over the screen to watch your entry. Intimidating. We stopped going to Panera about 2 years ago for other reasons, but this was a reason too.

Now we are good tippers - unless the service was NOT good, always tip 20% or more. But when (kinda) pressed to tip - at a quick service place, uh, that's a bit over the top. The first time this happened at Panera and she 'hovered' I think I pressed 15%, the next couple times, 0.

It's one thing to have a tip jar at Quick service places, but...

Not sure if Panera or others still do this in TV....


Customers hate tipping before they're served – and asking makes them less likely to return
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2 years ago…………

Total Wine adds a suggested tip if you order for delivery

We remove it and give the driver cash when he delivers

If it’s counter service no way am I tipping %15 to 20%

When we sit at a table and they bring us our order that gets a tip.

Tipping when ordering at a counter and they hand it to us does not get a tip.

But the article was just published Fri, December 24, 2021, 10:32 AM

I never tip with my credit card I always use cash and I always overtip ,if I get a coffee during day I usually leave a couple of bucks ,I know they are only handing it to you but I look at it is just helping bump there income .

Your money your choice

I know that I don’t have to be told that , go pats

Tips rants.
 

Question: Let's say it's a dinner out. Do you base your tip on the pre-tax total or after tax? Basing a tip of the total including tax can make a big difference, either for you or the server.

Rant: Also, did you ever think about how illogical the tipping scheme is? It's based on the cost of the meal. Not on how much effort went into serving it. Suppose I get the filet mignon and tip 20% on a $40 dinner. The guy in the booth behind me gets meatloaf and tips 20% on a $15 meal. My waiter gets $8 tip. The meatloaf server gets $3.00. Same amount of service. Sure, I understand tips are usually pooled and shared, but not always. What's more, the hardest working staffers, the cooks, may not get any of the tip money.

Rant 2: Where will this stop? Tip jars are showing up everywhere. My local Winn-Dixie had tip jars at the check-outs. They weren't there when the minimum wage was lower. What's next: tip the doctor for giving you a correct diagnosis?

Tip jars are getting out of hand.

Tipping has gotten out of hand. Again where will it end? I travel to the Chinese or pizza to pick up the food myself. Why do I have to tip the person that hands me the food? Delivery absolutely.

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Everyone has to do what works for them for sure. I have no exact rules but generally a coffee or ice cream at a counter does not get a tip. A takeout order from a restaurant will get a tip but not as much as if I was sitting there getting service the entire meal. Then of course how good the service was and the cost of the food factors in. As an example someone working at a pizza joint is not going to make the same as someone at a steakhouse.

I totally agree. This is why I usually way over tip in Waffle House and undertip in upscale restaurants. The establishment and amenities are already priced into the meal.

So, if you just consider SERVICE the Waffle House waitress takes your order, fills your coffee cup 2 or 3 times, brings your meal, calls you sweetie, and brings the bill. Say you ordered eggs and bacon. With coffee less than 10 bucks. 20% tip?- $2.00.

A steak at Chop House and 2 glasses of wine. About the same service (again ignore the atmosphere - you pay for that in the meal) and the bill is around 50 bucks. 20% tip? - $10.

Stupid custom. I wish the servers were just paid a decent wage and there was no tipping like in many European countries.

Tipping is spreading over there.

If servers were smart they would train at a place like Waffle House and than seek to move up to a higher end place where they can make more money.

But than again a waffle house table probably turns over 4-5x as often as a Chop House so perhaps their is not that big an income disparity.

I'm the same way. They lower the cost, the higher the tip percentage...

During Covid, I've been tipping like Ray Liotta in the night club scene in "Goodfellas"...

They risked their health to be there for us, well before a vaccine was available...

Goodfellas Night Club Scene - Copacabana - Henry Hill - YouTube

What's next: tip the doctor for giving you a correct diagnosis?[/QUOTE]

That is an idea next time I am at the Proctologist I’ll tell him his tip depends on how gentle he is:bigbow:

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I think they should ask for a raise, it’s makes about as much sense. If the help think they need a tip to offset their weekly pay, they definitely aren’t getting paid enough. Tips are for good service, not for pouring them a cup of cappuccino. You’re right find somewhere else to get your morning Joe!

so what does TIPS stand for?
 

To Insure Prompt Service (TIPS) and that's exactly what I tip fort

Never quite got into tipping non waiters. People behind the counter are order takers and provide no customer service other than taking your money. Do you tip at McDonald's, Duncan Donuts, or Chick-fil-A? No difference.

With us doing so many curbside, this has become an issue. I now hit zero and when I get my order I tip cash I started this over a year ago because I tipped 18% on a to go order and the order was a hot mess…so now I tip according to my service, the correct order, and the time it took to get it. No I do not tip at fast food, except the subway on 441 because the young ladies there are fast and super nice

I have one on the side of my golf cart. :coolsmiley:

I tip on amount before tax and the suggested tip is based on before tax.
I agree on the dollar amount too. I have always felt that way especially on drinks. You order a house highball for $4.00 and I order a nice glass of wine for $10 should I really have to tip more when your drink took more effort to make?
The dollar about is such a good point. I’m drinking water and your drinking beer we both have 5 glasses mine cost zero and yours cost $20, so your bill is much higher then mine even though we both had the server come to the table same amount of times.

I was told a long time ago that tipping, when it first started, was done before the meal. (T)o, (I)nsure, (P)romptness

I have been a waitress for over 40 years… I made an art out of serving people and was always (almost) tipped well. This nonsense of tipping people who pour you a coffee or take your order is just that…pure nonsense

I have a question for you, if the total bill includes an $80 bottle of wine, should I include a 20% tip on the wine

tipping
 

although tips stands for "to insure prompt service", I never tip unless we're being served while seated at a table and do so after our meal based on the service provided - there have been exceptions but that's the general rule I follow - I don't like those systems that ask otherwise and we may not return there or just do what we think is best under the circumstances following our "general rule"

Tipping should be determined by the quality of the server, I agree. But in this pandemic world where finding servers is difficult, the lines have blurred. Having had daughters that waited tables, I tend to understand what they go through and tip well, at least 20%. Just an FYI, when I use my Starbucks card or app, the option to tip is available for you long after being served.

I traveled and visited Panera often. I would order at the counter and they would bring to table. When finished I was expected to take the dishes to the dirty dish section. Some companies definition of service are limited and I never left large tips even on business expense account. Better suggestion is to put the tip in prices as other countries do.

I neverneverNEVER tip before service is completed. Seems more like a bribe than a reward for excellence. In those places where you pay upfront, or anywhere where I'm paying with a credit card, I merely draw a line through the tip box and tell the service person that the tip is on the table. In cash.

I also tip generously, especially if I plan on returning to that restaurant. Insurance. Good tippers are recognized in a very short time and it assures service above and beyond for subsequent visits. My granddaughter says the size of my tip is in direct proportion to the bust size of the waitress, but what do kids know?

Agreed!!! And tipping for carry out? Fuggetaboutit!

It would be great if restaurants would pay a reasonable wage, adjust prices to reflect that, and eliminate tipping entirely. A tip (acronym for To Insure Promptness) is a bribe, and demeaning to both the customer and the server.

This scene should be posted in the thread about reservations. Maybe Mr. Party of 9 could get his table.

No tip for counter employees
 

I agree. Counter employees get paid more than servers. Different pay scale.

What is the tip percentage at a buffet? Somewhere between a counter employee (0%) and a server (20%+)?

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That has already happened to me. Went to a doctor, first visit. co pay was 80.00. The doctor himself told me that he only gets (insert figure) from insurance for the visit, and that if I was happy with the service he would welcome receiving over the copay. A medical doctor.
When did tipping for takeout begin? I never recall tipping for a slice of pizza, or chinese take out. Now they give you a screen showing 18%, 20%, 25%. What is the proper tip for takeout?

For a take-out or self-service order I usually enter $1. 15% or 20% is for sit-down service.

Ate at TooJays last night. They are converting their computer system to tablets that the server uses when you pay by credit card. She entered the data and then turned to the tip page. I did not see a place to enter a figure - only a range of pre-selected percentages. I was surprised that the range of percentages started at 18%. Didn't matter to me, but I would guess that someone less fortunate would be upset.

That's an urban legend. English-language acronyms being used as words were not popular prior to WWII, and the word "tips" as in "gratuity" was used at least as early as the 17th century. In addition, during the time it originated, they would have called it TEPS - to Ensure prompt service, not to Insure prompt service. No one is paying a premium for service insurance.

Also, it you were ensuring prompt service, wouldn't you give it to the server before the service, and not after it?

On topic: I never plan on tipping for takeout or curbside service. Sometimes I do tip for curbside, and once in awhile I toss the silver in the tip bucket when I do takeout. My reasons can be arbitrary: maybe I have the tray in one hand and the coins in the other, and just can't open my purse to put the coins away, so I toss them in the tip jar. Maybe the change was just some pennies, and I really don't want them. So they go in the tip jar. Maybe the guy who put my taco together did such a spanking awesome job of it AND gave me constant eye contact and a bright smile, and I was inspired to toss a buck in the tip jar.

Generally though, the only people who I feel "obligated" to tip are table-service servers, and delivery drivers.

I'm curious. Some people will pay for a restaurant meal with a credit card, but will only use cash for the tip. Are you trying to assist the server and the restaurant in cheating on their taxes, are you trying to hide the tip amount from the server's employer, or is there another reason? Regardless, it seems deceptive.

I always pay cash in a restaurant that will not allow the credit card transaction to be completed in my presence. I never allow my credit card to be taken into another room. But, if I pay with a credit card, I add the tip to the card. It seems like the upfront way to do it.