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I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but are these prices of used homes for real.
I am looking for a home in the Villages but am getting very discouraged over the very recent increase in prices, are these for real?. I looked at a home this morning that sold for 345K in April, today it listed at 700K, this is insanity. I can't believe people are really buying this stuff.
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$345 to $700 in under a year???
I wonder if it is the exact same house that said, it certainly appears to be a sellers market |
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5746 Landon Ave, sold April 2021 346K listed at 697,500 now, they may have added a pool, but still a 101% increase in 9 months. The crazy thing about it is, that it will probably sell in 15 minutes.
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Owner's Name PAN AMERICAN PROPERTIES INC Site Address 5746 LANDON AVE, THE VILLAGES, FL 32163 Mail Address 17 UNION RD RTE 221, C1E 3B2, FC The Villages is also the lister. Looks like some sort of flipping? |
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They mention the home cannot close until April 9th I believe.
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The Villages - POH Flyer |
House prices are insane. I guess if you sell your place up north for a crazy price, you are willing to buy here for a crazy price. Lots of factors driving the prices higher such as companies such as Zillow buying homes. I've read they recently stopped. Prices will fall. It's just a matter of when.
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If these #'s are correct, I suspect that previous buyer had many upgrades including a swimming pool. Our neighbors did the same thing.
Suspect that the amount of potential buyers is dwindling. This should calm the market down |
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It appears that some of the seemingly overpriced resales are NOT selling.
I Iris near us sold for about $440K last summer. Now a nearby Iris is asking $565K and it has gone unsold for several weeks. |
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I personally know for a fact (ie. I know those doing it) are flipping houses and making hundreds of thousands of dollars. I know one couple that just made $800,000(profit) after adding a pool.
And people are paying $1,700,000 for a 2,000 sq ft house with a pool. That is only happening here. |
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To me it seems sorta like buying a sandbox in Las Vegas. There are (as I recall reading) over 100 pools available for TV residents; heated and sanitized. |
I am surprised at how few homes are for sale between Lake Sumter Landing and Pinellas. That's a pretty highly sought after area, due to proximity to LSL, Brownwood, many executive and championship courses.
There just isn't much to be had there. |
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The obscene increases is not just TV, it's nationwide. While I think the bubble will soon be pricked, I don't see the bottom going back to where it was even 1-2 years ago. In hindsight it seems we sold our old home a bit early, anticipating a quick move to TV (yet to happen), we were satisfied at the time and still are, particularly since the invested proceeds have done extremely well. Sooo, we'll wait for a correction that we think is reasonable (smart enough to not try and time the absolute very bottom), then purchase in our preferred area which is a +-2 mile radius from LSL. In the meantime, there's a lot worse things than spending winters here renting. Except maybe last week...or next. lol
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Our own experience. We sold our home for roughly 6x what we paid for it. When, be bought it roughly 40 years ago, we paid roughly 3x what my parents paid for their home which was roughly twice the size of ours roughly 12 years earlier. For a down payment I put down, in cash, what my parents paid for their home. I never thought it would go up as high as it did. We bought in the villages 9 years ago. Again, I never thought it would go up-BUT IT DID. My point is all must decide what they want, WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD. WOULDA, SHOULDA COULDA, MIGHTA does not help at all. Like say the stock market. Hindsight is of no value. WOULDA SHOULDA COULDA MIGHTA is also of no value. |
Rather than looking at what people are asking, you'll get more meaningful information on Trulia. You can search "recently sold", and filter for "newest". You won't see anything handled by The Villages Realty, only MLS listing sold. No question things are going up, but not as crazy as what you might think looking at some of the asking prices.
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Demand is increasing a lot.
Supply in increasing a little. Driving more developments just outside our bubble. Wildwood is building up fast. However these higher sales prices should help reduce the tax burden for us that remain in our humble abodes. I'm in Sumter, so assuming the land baron developer of the villages doesn't succeed with the deceitful plan to impose increased tax burden to existing homeowners for future development (impact fees), shouldn't I assume that my tax bill will go down? Let's assume the population increases by 3701 people this year....that's just over 2.6%. Then let's assume that costs to run the county go up by 7% this year (LGB affect). There aren't many children vs population so funding of schools shouldn't increase too much.. So maybe the county costs go up by 8.5%. Maybe less since they are cost cutting (Village annex closed). Each homeowner burden is based on the assessed value of their home (real value is determined at a sale / assessed value increases are capped / but can be reduced during downturns by the action of the county assessor) Since 1995 the assess value can increase no more than the CPI or 3% whichever is lower, assuming no major upgrades. Now...due to the huge cost (value) increases for homes sold recently, the revenue to the county from the new homeowners will be substantially higher. Seems intuitively obvious that my meager dwelling should bear a lesser burden thanks to the influx of the increased revenue. https://floridarevenue.com/property/Documents/pt107.pdf County Millage Rate Information | Sumter County, FL - Official Website sumter county population increase 2020 to 2021 - Google Search http://https://www.**************.co...cent-tax-hike/ |
One Year Rule Only Applies to First Owner.
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Nope. Been getting mail for 4 percent commissions. Zero is the right number in this market
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Actually, in the same neighborhood, about 2 streets down, another owner is selling his house for 1.5+ million. I understand he paid 770K for it 11 months ago. It is listed as needing to close right after his 1-year mark, so he can keep the profits. He did upgrade the interior quite a bit -- although, not 100% markup improvement.
The owner and his wife are private citizens, not a corporation. I'm told they like to personally flip homes in the Villages. Quote:
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A lot of Chinese money….. they buy and rent…..our grandchildren will all be renters someday to the CCP…
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Owner's Name PAN AMERICAN PROPERTIES INC Site Address 5746 LANDON AVE, THE VILLAGES, FL 32163 Mail Address 17 UNION RD RTE 221, C1E 3B2, FC |
Well that is extreme, but seems every homeowner is very happy with the demand for homes in the Villages especially if have owned it for several years. They say villagers move an average of three times,judging from prices over the years buying and selling with continued price increases makes for a very nice cash retirement.
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The solution is not to buy in The villages. There are at least 8 or 10 other Senior communities all with lovely golf courses 50% of the price of The villages. It's cold location location. PS and yes it is happening all over the country my son is priced out of the market as a home that was half a million last year is now 1 million so isn't it crazy that our children and their grandchildren will never ever be able to afford homes again especially since interest rates are going to be rising to fight inflation
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That price seems pretty extreme. We just bought a nice 2 and 2 built in 2009 for $285K. Our budget was $310K, so we were happy with our purchase. We bought it for a snowbird home, but we were prepared to keep looking if we didn't find what we liked.
It has appreciated like all homes there but not a real crazy amount. Like many have said, home prices are up everywhere and inventory is at an all time low. We're trying to downsize from our 3000 sq ft home here in SW Indiana, but we can't even find anything to go look at around our area. I don't see TV home market cooling off for a while. Too many boomers looking to move to warmer weather. And there's a lot of us. Factor into that as well, more people are retiring early than there used be. I'm thinking the market will level off at some point, but who knows when. I'm 65 and my wife is 66. We don't feel like we have the time to wait it out. Now, if we were 10 years younger we would probably be willing to see how it all shakes out. Then again, it may never go down. It's a roll of the dice. |
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