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mkjelenbaas 01-28-2022 01:31 PM

House Sold
 
You are correct - the prices are going crazy UP -- same thing in Michigan where we came from! Behind LSL are the Lakeside Cottages -- one year ago one sold (on the lake) for $1.3M - it never made the paper! It just sold for $1.55M after one year and this also did not make the sales floor!!! Good luck in your search.

manaboutown 01-28-2022 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2054250)
5746 Landon Ave, sold April 2021 346K listed at 697,500 now, they may have added a pool, but still a 101% increase in 9 months. The crazy thing about it is, that it will probably sell in 15 minutes.

according to this it sold for $324,319. 5746 Landon Ave, The Villages, FL 32163 | Zillow

LianneMigiano 01-28-2022 02:02 PM

AND the worst part is they're asking prices as if they were up North in the NY/NJ/CT region - and they don't even have an attic/basement or decent sized lot that most of those homes have!

LianneMigiano 01-28-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2054235)
We went thru this B4 2001 to 2007 housing bubble. It's not only happening here.

And then we had the bubble BURST and home prices dropped drastically. Wouldn't suggest that people buy in this market as an investment to flip with the previous market that happened....

dewilson58 01-28-2022 02:20 PM

People, People, People............

Go back into history and see what happened to home prices in The Village in 2007/2008/2009. Get the facts.

The Villages home values did not fall even 50% of the national averages. It was closer to 25% of the national hit. NOT 25% value hit, 25% of the national hit.

Breath people, Breath.

:ho:

Fredster 01-28-2022 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LianneMigiano (Post 2054694)
AND the worst part is they're asking prices as if they were up North in the NY/NJ/CT region - and they don't even have an attic/basement or decent sized lot that most of those homes have!

Then it must be location, location, location!:shocked:

manaboutown 01-28-2022 02:48 PM

One can obtain a graph of prices over the years in 32162 from this site. 32162 Home Prices & Home Values | Zillow

Also: All-Transactions House Price Index for the Villages, FL (MSA) (ATNHPIUS45540Q) | FRED | St. Louis Fed

asianthree 01-28-2022 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wmc1000 (Post 2054665)
Quite possibly the "sale" last year was for the lot only?

No home in TV is sold lot only. When you put money on a lot you have x amount of days to start build. House price does not show on property info until it is completed

JoMar 01-28-2022 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FWPierceIII (Post 2054494)
I've discovered the best time to invest in a home is just after a hurricane passes through... if you look at the prices over the years... there are huge price swings. The current price increase seems to be the cost of materials and labor... labor is in such demand and so much work right now. Look for a temporary solution and wait. I am also looking for a home in the Villages... I'm a cash buyer and when I see it... I will have to jump!!! no hesitation allowed.

Another young person coming......welcome.

fdpaq0580 01-28-2022 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2054496)
I guess you missed this post. Definitely not Canadian.

Owner's Name PAN AMERICAN PROPERTIES INC

Site Address 5746 LANDON AVE, THE VILLAGES, FL 32163
Mail Address 17 UNION RD RTE 221, C1E 3B2, FC

Google shows mail address for a construction company in Braxton, P. E. I. Is Prince Edward Island part of Canada?
😯

tjdmlhw 01-28-2022 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2054228)
I am looking for a home in the Villages but am getting very discouraged over the very recent increase in prices, are these for real?. I looked at a home this morning that sold for 345K in April, today it listed at 700K, this is insanity. I can't believe people are really buying this stuff.

Zillow shows 94 homes under $600K listed in the Villages and the majority of them look better than the $700K one you are talking about. What's more some of those homes have been on the market for a month or longer and have started dropping their prices.

Bilyclub 01-28-2022 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2054496)
I guess you missed this post. Definitely not Canadian.

Owner's Name PAN AMERICAN PROPERTIES INC

Site Address 5746 LANDON AVE, THE VILLAGES, FL 32163
Mail Address 17 UNION RD RTE 221, C1E 3B2, FC

I posted that so, I didn't miss it. Since when is Prince Edward Island not in Canada ?

Bilyclub 01-28-2022 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by irishwonone (Post 2054582)
I was thinking the same thing. Great minds think alike!šŸ‘šŸ»



Great minds that took a shot at me and were totally wrong. Looks like Canada to me. Surrender your Mensa membership.

Laker14 01-28-2022 07:14 PM

First time in my life I ever bought BEFORE the bubble.

CoachKandSportsguy 01-28-2022 07:52 PM

Yes there has been accelerated retirement home buying in TV. But look at how the developer develops and sells properties here. The latest village opened up for sale, ST John's I think, the lots/villas all sold in less than a week or so. So if you have been thinking about buying down here, and you haven't come down, met the TV sales staff, have a TV sales contact, you probably aren't going to buy a new lot when they get released.

So now you are looking for what's advertised, and flippers and 1 year owners, etc, are trying to make a mint while they can, so they ask very high prices, and if anyone bites, then everyone is happy. There are a variety of price sensitive and price insensitive buyers. . .

Also, understand that the number of corporate retirees across the country skyrocketed in the pandemic, and they have plenty of money, to move. So the interest and money is vast across the country, realize that they might focus here. . so whomever said, I have never purchased before the boom, we are lucky, nothing special, just lucky. . . And also better lucky than good. . . because I am not good, just lucky. . .

However, asking price and final sales might be entirely different. . . make sure you know how much you can afford and then spend the time looking there. And there will be people who will have missed their opportunity, because they weren't ready or couldn't make the decision fast enough, or are a dreamer beyond their means, and that is just life. . . or they can be very , very patient, rent down here, and seriously look and be ready to make an offer that day. . But if you are paralyzed by analysis, you might just never get a satisfactory opportunity.

Bilyclub 01-28-2022 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CJH929 (Post 2054623)
Check the Sumter County Tax Collector website. Follow the ā€œowners:
Pan American links to
The Villages Land Co which links to
The Villages Developement Co.
Looks like it never left the ownership of the Developer.
Add a pool on a view site and that’s how the price went up.

No, Pan American Properties bought a house at 645 MINCEY LOOP, THE VILLAGES, FL 32163 in August of 2021 from the Properties of The Villages. There is no link to the developer other than Pan American Properties bought two houses from the developer.

Dorebea 01-28-2022 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2054279)
They mention the home cannot close until April 9th I believe.

Yep, looks like it sold on April 8, 2021 so exactly a year!

I’ll bet they added the pool. Beautiful view but not much else to say about the house. And…. right next to the rec center noise.

Pool or not, i would not pay that much for that house.

Djean1981 01-28-2022 10:27 PM

I don't hear the turnpike at all in the Hawkins.

Djean1981 01-28-2022 10:44 PM

True. Out of curiosity, I checked out homes outside of The Villages. They are almost as expensive. However they have much larger lots.

Nick B 01-29-2022 06:24 AM

Too late I believe the eye is lost.

Worldseries27 01-29-2022 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by djean1981 (Post 2054754)
i don't hear the turnpike at all in the hawkins.

nor i in st catherine's.
This is how the stampede starts

Luggage 01-29-2022 06:28 AM

If someone doesn't like another person's opinion that doesn't mean they have to read it. Life is not perfect in The villages and it's quite obvious from all the complaints

Rwirish 01-29-2022 06:40 AM

No the prices are not real. They are just made up.

Normal 01-29-2022 06:44 AM

No Bubble
 
There isn’t really a bubble. Inflation has hit everything hard, but the housing market should slow down to a little less than 10 percent this year. Interest rates will go up and price some buyers out. If you are looking for some kind of bubble ā€œpopā€ don’t hold your breath. The banks and markets loans are a lot more secure this time around.

G.R.I.T.S. 01-29-2022 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2054301)
I am surprised at how few homes are for sale between Lake Sumter Landing and Pinellas. That's a pretty highly sought after area, due to proximity to LSL, Brownwood, many executive and championship courses.
There just isn't much to be had there.

I know. We live there. Jasmine just went on the market yesterday. Villages listing. Won’t last.

G.R.I.T.S. 01-29-2022 06:57 AM

Jasmine on Blythewood Loop listed yesterday.

G.R.I.T.S. 01-29-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pablo cruze (Post 2054435)
Demand is increasing a lot.
Supply in increasing a little.
Driving more developments just outside our bubble. Wildwood is building up fast.

However these higher sales prices should help reduce the tax burden for us that remain in our humble abodes.

I'm in Sumter, so assuming the land baron developer of the villages doesn't succeed with the deceitful plan to impose increased tax burden to existing homeowners for future development (impact fees), shouldn't I assume that my tax bill will go down?

Let's assume the population increases by 3701 people this year....that's just over 2.6%. Then let's assume that costs to run the county go up by 7% this year (LGB affect).
There aren't many children vs population so funding of schools shouldn't increase too much..
So maybe the county costs go up by 8.5%. Maybe less since they are cost cutting (Village annex closed).

Each homeowner burden is based on the assessed value of their home (real value is determined at a sale / assessed value increases are capped / but can be reduced during downturns by the action of the county assessor)
Since 1995 the assess value can increase no more than the CPI or 3% whichever is lower, assuming no major upgrades.

Now...due to the huge cost (value) increases for homes sold recently, the revenue to the county from the new homeowners will be substantially higher.
Seems intuitively obvious that my meager dwelling should bear a lesser burden thanks to the influx of the increased revenue.

https://floridarevenue.com/property/Documents/pt107.pdf

County Millage Rate Information | Sumter County, FL - Official Website

sumter county population increase 2020 to 2021 - Google Search

http://https://www.**************.co...cent-tax-hike/

Yes, success sucks…UNLESS it’s you.šŸ™„

Nucky 01-29-2022 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2054548)
Come on man, it is all funny money. I just sold a 3 year old car to the DEALER for $4,000 more than my out the door price.

Is the profit taxable?

dewilson58 01-29-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2054783)
Is the profit taxable?

If the car was used for business and depreciated for tax purposes.

:)

dewilson58 01-29-2022 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2054768)
Life is not perfect in The villages

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:ohdear::ohdear:

Bilyclub 01-29-2022 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2054785)
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Yes Mr Wilson, or is it Wilson W Wilson Jr. or Wilson the volleyball ? I'm going with the volleyball.

rsmurano 01-29-2022 07:52 AM

Have you been south of 44 in the last 2 years? Buyers aren’t dwindling. TV had a banner sales year last year and if you see the opening days of new villages, 80% of the homes are already sold before the village opens. Until the migration from NY, NJ, California, and other states stops coming to Florida, we will keep seeing these prices increase.

MDLNB 01-29-2022 07:55 AM

Wait for the bubble to burst and you should see better prices. Can't promise that, but this inflation can't last more than three more years. Then, EVERYTHING should get back to normal. Maybe then home prices will drop back to reasonable prices. But, as long as there are those that will pay the price.......... Hopefully, this time folks will be more responsible and not walk away from their obligations once this bubble bursts and mortgages are under water again.

Bay Kid 01-29-2022 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2054783)
Is the profit taxable?

Sure is.... I had it in a company name, so I'll be taxed on the profit and depreciation. I'm the money will be put to good use?

Babubhat 01-29-2022 08:12 AM

Housing still less than the Coasts. Lesser taxation, more freedom, better weather. Pretty simple equation

OhioBuckeye 01-29-2022 08:14 AM

There’s a saying, If you don’t like where you are, move. You’re not a tree!

OhioBuckeye 01-29-2022 08:21 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 2054777)
Yes, success sucks…UNLESS it’s you.šŸ™„

If you don’t like it where you are, move, you’re not a tree!

Queenie504 01-29-2022 08:26 AM

So, what's your point? We can all see prices are rising.

Djean1981 01-29-2022 09:20 AM

I feel bad for the current buyers. The homes are very overpriced
because of current circumstances. Most are nice but standard/modest homes on a micro lot in very dense neighborhoods with very narrow streets. Many, bought here because of the lifestyle, not specifically, the house (our cottage house is very nice, but we paid far less for it 15 months ago). Prices are high because of current supply shortages, many people flocking to Florida, etc. If/when the prices fall, some may be very upsidedown on their mortgage. But, maybe a lot of people are paying cash..?

jrref 01-29-2022 09:40 AM

Just don't forget with the pandemic everything has changed. There are many who can now work from home and instead of living in the expensive NE or cold areas of the country they can live here in Florida. I don't expect demand and pricing to decrease anytime soon but i do expect a leveling off at some point.


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