Saudi Golf League and Mickelson
 

:popcorn::popcorn: hmmmmm! Now who is greedy?????

For wanting to keep what's his? Certainly not Phil...

Did you actually read WHY he's doing this?

I did.... we all derive different conclusions.....

Yeah, not wanting to pay $MILLIONS for his own likeness is the definition of greed...

Hmmmmmmm, who cares!

When he agreed to accept the millions of dollars he's made playing in PGA events, part of the contract was, and still is, that the PGA owns the images from its events. You don't like that because you like Phil...

So I ask, are you upset that Colin Kaepernick and OBJ [NFL], and LeBron James and James Harden [NBA], and Aaron Judge [MLB], and PK Subban [NHL] also might have no rights to images from games they play??

Part of how professional leagues make money is by owning and selling images of their product. And the money they make is part of why they can then pay the players so much. Phil wants it both ways... he wants high payment for playing, and he wants to control his own images if your statement is correct that such is his concern.

He is free to sell his face for commercial profit, and he does, a lot. He just is not allowed to use PGA event images. Poor Phil.

Poor Phil, hmmmmm!, 400 million plus.

Please don't mention Phil Mickelson and Colin Kaepernick in the same thread.

I have read in several different articles and newspaper columns that Phil has blown millions on a serious gambling problem. He certainly has the personality (risk taking) for it. That said, he loves the attention he is getting regarding his comments on the possible new Tour. Phil loves to promote himself. Of course he is not in that boat by himself. The few that make it to the PGA tour should be thankful because they are truly blessed with the golfing skills that most of us “duffers” are envious of and the money they make wouldn’t be bad either. Fore!

When you are the only game in town (PGA) you make all the rules and those that want to play are either in or out. When a competitor shows up rules change. I suspect the PGA will adjust their hold on the players.

Nice try at changing the subject...

If the NFL, NBA NHO and MLB players were complaining about it, yes I would support them...

And silly me, I always thought it was the sponsors (like WM) who paid the purses...

The PGA has turned into the IOC, imho... Poor PGA...

You don't wear jealousy well...

Yup...

He has become the Aaron Rogers of the PGA Tour; a whining baby.

Amen to that...
:ohdear::ohdear:

Wait, I thought he was "entitled"?

Saudi League
 

Only the has beens of the tour will be joining. Ones on their way out. I have always liked Phil but this is the way of extending his career.

The PGA has had the Senior Tour for decades...

I agree with you. Just how much money does one person need? Used to be a big Mickelson fan but fed up with his greed and his threats to hold the PGA hostage to his demands. Personally, I think the "Player Impact Fee" is a joke. All professional athletes are paid on their performance and on advertising revenue, not on their "impact" to the sport. Just another way to reward those who are already making a killing. If Phil is that unhappy, maybe he could go back to selling shoes.

NEED? Who are you (or anyone else for that matter) to determine what someone needs?

You post saying:
And I post a list of other people who also would have to pay money for use of their own images because they also play professional sports..
and you accuse me of changing the subject

According to THIS you are silly.

History Repeats Itself
 

Many Many years ago, Greg Norman tried to start a tour of the best players. It fell dead. Now he is trying to do it again. Guys like Phil are prime for this. His playing ability is fading and all thats left is the senior tour. Not enough money for him......Phil is actually worth around 800 million.... If he donated to charity as much as he gambled the people in his state would have no hungry homeless. Its just a money grab.
Norman is the culprit here again, did you know he purposely missed his 2nd shot at the Masters to let Jack Nicklaus win! Here again, Norman cant play anymore so he is deep water fishing for money. And he has made a ton off of his business's, smart man, but still has a squishy side, just like Phil.

Thanks for explaining. Makes perfect sense.

There are tours all over the world for professional golfers including Europe, Asia, India, Korea, Japan, Australia, and South Africa to name a few. Many of the golfers from those regions prefer to play on the US PGA tour because of the money and competition.

Thank you for proving me correct about the prize money...

Saved me the time...

When did you become Mickleson's accountant?

"purposely missed his 2nd shot at the Masters to let Jack Nicklaus win."

Say what?! Is the earth really flat also? lol




Norman's idea of a separate tour back in the early 90's, was the impetus behind the eventual creation of WGC events, so he wasn't totally off in trying to establish something between the majors and regular tour events. I also read that Norman is somehow involved with Phil and this Saudi tour thing - but who knows? Worth an estimated $400M, I doubt Norman is losing sleep on figuring out how to make a few extra bucks.

Some statements are getting a little sassy!

benevolence is not Normans or Michelson motive, money loves money especially when its easy......

check the 86 masters video, 18th Hole for Norman, he bagged the 2nd shot 30 yards off line and bagged the putt,
the nite before he had spent 2 hours with Jack on his porch as reported by Barbara, Norman NOT Jack choreographed
the finish. He took one for the team.......but made it look acceptable....

Yeah, sure. LOL

I remember a few years back Phil got a lot of grief for suggesting he was considering moving his primary residence away from California to avoid the outrageous state taxes on his earnings. I have never been a huge fan of Phil, but I will never criticize someone for wanting to make (or keep) whatever earnings they can legitimately make.

Saudi League
 

Phil - pack your bags and see if it is better over there. You won't be missed. PGA will survive without you.

I agree with your assessment of Norman. His account of the 18th hole is available online. Claims he hit a soft 4 iron instead of a hard 5 iron, and blocked it far right. I saw and heard him mistreat fans one year at The Memorial, an image I've never forgotten. Jerks usually don't take anything for anyone but themselves.

I know! One has morals and the other one plays golf.

Mickelson
 

Looks like Phil double-downed with support for Saudi's. Bottom line, it's all about the money.

Isn't everything?

Double DITTO!!

Looks like money talks, not buying to quote Phil, "its better for golf", no its really better for Phil's pocket, can't blame him, his life, his decision.