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angelscelebrate 03-09-2022 08:19 AM

Buyers Beware this could happen to you!
 
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Big happenings down by Water Lily Recreational Center.

If you happened to be going down Marsh Bend Trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on Corder Run in District 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
The Villages, you may want to be aware that the Developer Representative can and did grant an approval for an RV garage prior to the development being turned over to The Villages. The ARC process takes place once The Villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the Developer Representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now RV garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the Developer's Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions Relating to: Villages of Southern Oaks Unit No. 30A.

2.4 "Harmonious with the development as to... design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "Developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (A) will benefit and enhance the entire Subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "Outside structure permanently attached to the Home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a HUGE screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The Villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the Developer before YOUR neighborhood transfers to The Villages for approval to store an RV at your home.

Buyers Beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble OPINION this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

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vinricci 03-09-2022 08:43 AM

How awful!

Djean1981 03-09-2022 08:48 AM

I assume it's not finished and the exterior will match the house..?

MrFlorida 03-09-2022 09:09 AM

At least the RV will be in the garage, not parked outside on the lawn.

n8xwb 03-09-2022 10:08 AM

Not everyone may agree with your "humble opinion"! There are numerous RV garages, as well as house extensions, built in existing neighborhoods. There is no way to make a fair determination based on what the unfinished garage looks like! BTW, are you aware that it may be connected to the house with some kind of breezeway? Take a drive in Bridgeport Lake Miona Shores. There are several there and I see no problem -- other than perhaps some neighbors not being able to "keep up with the Jones"!

DAVES 03-09-2022 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by n8xwb (Post 2070377)
Not everyone may agree with your "humble opinion"! There are numerous RV garages, as well as house extensions, built in existing neighborhoods. There is no way to make a fair determination based on what the unfinished garage looks like! BTW, are you aware that it may be connected to the house with some kind of breezeway? Take a drive in Bridgeport Lake Miona Shores. There are several there and I see no problem -- other than perhaps some neighbors not being able to "keep up with the Jones"!

I'm not sure of the point. Keep up with the jones''s has nothing to do with the issue.
People, THE JONES'S I can buy and sell many of them. I would not like to discover an RV park next to my HOME and I doubt many would. Own an RV, I never have. I would expect with gas at $4.00 a gallon many who bought RVs have lost a lot of money on them. Reselling that home. Features if you have an RV we have parking right next door and we are asking 100,000 less than if it was not there.

JSR22 03-09-2022 12:57 PM

There are a number of homes that have a separate garage for their RV. Not a big deal.

DAVES 03-09-2022 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
Big happenings down by Water Lily Recreational Center.

If you happened to be going down Marsh Bend Trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on Corder Run in District 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
The Villages, you may want to be aware that the Developer Representative can and did grant an approval for an RV garage prior to the development being turned over to The Villages. The ARC process takes place once The Villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the Developer Representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now RV garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the Developer's Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions Relating to: Villages of Southern Oaks Unit No. 30A.

2.4 "Harmonious with the development as to... design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "Developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (A) will benefit and enhance the entire Subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "Outside structure permanently attached to the Home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a HUGE screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The Villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the Developer before YOUR neighborhood transfers to The Villages for approval to store an RV at your home.

Buyers Beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble OPINION this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

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I would contact the villages. I am sure you need permits to build most anything. For that garage they should have filed and gotten approval for THAT. Should have and being as filed MAY NOT BE REALITY. In our area any cement, permanent structure MUST be 3 feet beyond the property line. DOES NOT LOOK LIKE 3 FEET TO ME

Dotneko 03-09-2022 01:00 PM

Thats a pretty ugly thing. I would hate to be building my dream house next to it.

Bilyclub 03-09-2022 01:37 PM

Sue the developer. Good luck with that.

Garywt 03-09-2022 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2070455)
I would contact the villages. I am sure you need permits to build most anything. For that garage they should have filed and gotten approval for THAT. Should have and being as filed MAY NOT BE REALITY. In our area any cement, permanent structure MUST be 3 feet beyond the property line. DOES NOT LOOK LIKE 3 FEET TO ME

The OP says they have approvals from the developer.

Garywt 03-09-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2070448)
I'm not sure of the point. Keep up with the jones''s has nothing to do with the issue.
People, THE JONES'S I can buy and sell many of them. I would not like to discover an RV park next to my HOME and I doubt many would. Own an RV, I never have. I would expect with gas at $4.00 a gallon many who bought RVs have lost a lot of money on them. Reselling that home. Features if you have an RV we have parking right next door and we are asking 100,000 less than if it was not there.

I own 2, one I have parked on a seasonal site in NH and the other is in my yard to travel. Have no plans to bring them the Florida. The Villages is like a huge campground. Gas prices will not change any plans.

Garywt 03-09-2022 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
Big happenings down by Water Lily Recreational Center.

If you happened to be going down Marsh Bend Trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on Corder Run in District 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
The Villages, you may want to be aware that the Developer Representative can and did grant an approval for an RV garage prior to the development being turned over to The Villages. The ARC process takes place once The Villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the Developer Representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now RV garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the Developer's Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions Relating to: Villages of Southern Oaks Unit No. 30A.

2.4 "Harmonious with the development as to... design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "Developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (A) will benefit and enhance the entire Subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "Outside structure permanently attached to the Home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a HUGE screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The Villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the Developer before YOUR neighborhood transfers to The Villages for approval to store an RV at your home.

Buyers Beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble OPINION this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

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Definitely does not look good for the neighbors view. Hopefully once it is done it will look beautiful. If connected by a birdcage with a door right there between the garage and the house might work. Interested to see it when done.

GpaVader 03-09-2022 02:45 PM

I'll hold my judgement until it's finished. My general impression is that I'd much rather look at the garage than the RV. As for RV's or travel trailers, don't knock it until you try it. We used to love to go camping and they made it a lot more comfortable.

Also, an RV park is very different than an RV garage.

MDLNB 03-09-2022 02:52 PM

Things that other folks do that bother the neighbors.
I wonder if the color of one's motor vehicle will be discussed next. No red or green cars allowed, only white and silver. Black cars absorb heat so some neighbor will not want YOU to have a black car.

On a light point, I have noticed a couple beautiful bald eagles and their young one over the area quite frequently. Sure glad they are the country's symbol instead of the suggested Turkey that Ben Franklin nominated.

davem4616 03-09-2022 03:09 PM

an RV is a significant investment...if the owner didn't want to 'store it' in one of the many storage locations outside the Villages, then parking it in a garage, on their property, that is set back from the street, would seem like a better option than leaving it their driveway all the time

putting in a garage like that might make it far more challenging when one goes to sell the house, but, (tongue in cheek), maybe it could be converted into a bowling alley or an all weather enclosed shuffleboard or Bocce court

DAVES 03-09-2022 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2070476)
The OP says they have approvals from the developer.

Far smaller issue. In my case it was landscaping. I spoke to my neighbor and he agreed.
The landscaper, refused and cursed me out etc. That too requires a permit. A call to the villages. They sent a skilled representative. The landscaper, who told me he is an EXPERT and I am wrong, curse words left out. He never filed the required plan. What he did was in violation. The villages told my neighbor not to pay him the balance till a plan was filed, approved and he corrected the issues. My neighbor latter sent me an article that his expert landscaper had been arrested for some crime.

My point is I WOULD CHECK. What we are told is often not the truth. That BUS garage
seems very close to the neighbors property. The BUS cannot fly. Clearly a road will be needed as well.

If, I was looking to buy, that BUS garage would kill any interest in buying the next door property. If, I would consider buying it I would make a low ball offer and not expect anyone would bid more. The next door neighbor, even they do not yet realize it has been financially damaged.

DAVES 03-09-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2070488)
I own 2, one I have parked on a seasonal site in NH and the other is in my yard to travel. Have no plans to bring them the Florida. The Villages is like a huge campground. Gas prices will not change any plans.

Not sure the point, not the same issue. As I understand it yours is not an RV, you do not move it about. I may not have the right terms. A mobile home? Some are quite large. I think the term is double wide. Some do not even have an engine but require a tractor, truck to be moved.

My point, VERY SIMPLE, I would not want it next to my home. I doubt anyone, trying to sell their home would state GREAT BUS GARAGE VIEW.

DAVES 03-09-2022 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2070511)
Things that other folks do that bother the neighbors.
I wonder if the color of one's motor vehicle will be discussed next. No red or green cars allowed, only white and silver. Black cars absorb heat so some neighbor will not want YOU to have a black car.

On a light point, I have noticed a couple beautiful bald eagles and their young one over the area quite frequently. Sure glad they are the country's symbol instead of the suggested Turkey that Ben Franklin nominated.

Fortunately, it is not next to me. Understanding? Would it be OK with you-if it were your home?

Truly simple concept. Your rights end where the other person's right begin. That BUS GARAGE is clearly an intrusion on the neighbor

The turkey
as suggested by Ben Franklin is far more NOBLE bird than what we eat on Thanksgiving. That bird is a monster of overbreeding. The bald eagle has good press relations. In real life it is a scavenger.

In the villages the bird should perhaps, be the sand crane. I am soooo self absorbed. I can fly. But, YOU should stop I have decided to cross the street. I've never seen one hit. They block traffic only till someone says I'm not gonna take your .............

Stu from NYC 03-09-2022 05:28 PM

Keep doing this and why buy in an unfinished development who knows what might come to be your neighbor

midiwiz 03-10-2022 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
Big happenings down by Water Lily Recreational Center.

If you happened to be going down Marsh Bend Trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on Corder Run in District 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
The Villages, you may want to be aware that the Developer Representative can and did grant an approval for an RV garage prior to the development being turned over to The Villages. The ARC process takes place once The Villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the Developer Representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now RV garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the Developer's Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions Relating to: Villages of Southern Oaks Unit No. 30A.

2.4 "Harmonious with the development as to... design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "Developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (A) will benefit and enhance the entire Subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "Outside structure permanently attached to the Home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a HUGE screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The Villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the Developer before YOUR neighborhood transfers to The Villages for approval to store an RV at your home.

Buyers Beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble OPINION this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

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Who cares so it was granted big deal its going to come. Sooner or later. Geez this isn't any big deal

Worldseries27 03-10-2022 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
big happenings down by water lily recreational center.

If you happened to be going down marsh bend trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on corder run in district 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
the villages, you may want to be aware that the developer representative can and did grant an approval for an rv garage prior to the development being turned over to the villages. The arc process takes place once the villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the developer representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now rv garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the developer's declaration of covenants, conditions and restrictions relating to: Villages of southern oaks unit no. 30a.

2.4 "harmonious with the development as to... Design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (a) will benefit and enhance the entire subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "outside structure permanently attached to the home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a huge screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the developer before your neighborhood transfers to the villages for approval to store an rv at your home.

Buyers beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble opinion this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

What say you??Attachment 92922

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actually you do engage with the developer before the arc committee. Some people build fully enclosed florida rooms before arc has any say in the matter. I guess the only solution is before buying your lot check the adjacent buildings and if you can view them nearby lot drawings that the villages have on hand. Even if they wont show them to you you certainly can inquire if the offending garage is in the drafts.
Caveat emptor

thevillages2013 03-10-2022 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2070448)
I'm not sure of the point. Keep up with the jones''s has nothing to do with the issue.
People, THE JONES'S I can buy and sell many of them. I would not like to discover an RV park next to my HOME and I doubt many would. Own an RV, I never have. I would expect with gas at $4.00 a gallon many who bought RVs have lost a lot of money on them. Reselling that home. Features if you have an RV we have parking right next door and we are asking 100,000 less than if it was not there.

It’s not an RV park. It is a single RV garage that is obviously on the property of this private residence. Looks like it should create more privacy for the neighbors

Pinball wizard 03-10-2022 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2070673)
actually you do engage with the developer before the arc committee. Some people build fully enclosed florida rooms before arc has any say in the matter. I guess the only solution is before buying your lot check the adjacent buildings and if you can view them nearby lot drawings that the villages have on hand. Even if they wont show them to you you certainly can inquire if the offending garage is in the drafts.
Caveat emptor

Just as an FYI. I purchased a spec home that was built by the developer with a Florida room.

La lamy 03-10-2022 07:03 AM

I agree it is an eyesore, but as an other said, maybe it'll look much better when finished.

Luggage 03-10-2022 07:04 AM

Gosh it's almost as bad as living in a city! You're going to have to look at that horrendous huge garage your whole life oh my! In my humble opinion there are too many other things to worry about like a neighbor that plays his drum is 12:00 at night

Newvilla 03-10-2022 07:10 AM

RV Garage
 
As long as the exterior of the RV garage matches the house, it will look fine. Our former retirement community, Lake Ashton, of Lake Wales, had some homes with RV garages. That development was just as attractive as TV, and it had a very active RV club.too.

dartag1829 03-10-2022 07:36 AM

I remember seeing a house where the guy had a Huge garage built next door. It looked like a house. He was a car collector. Never have been able to find it again. anyone know the whereabouts.

Garywt 03-10-2022 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2070522)
Not sure the point, not the same issue. As I understand it yours is not an RV, you do not move it about. I may not have the right terms. A mobile home? Some are quite large. I think the term is double wide. Some do not even have an engine but require a tractor, truck to be moved.

My point, VERY SIMPLE, I would not want it next to my home. I doubt anyone, trying to sell their home would state GREAT BUS GARAGE VIEW.

This response was to post it was attached to so there was a point.

There are many types of RV’s. Mine are travel trailers that I tow with my pickup truck. One is 38 feet long and the other is 30 feet. These are not double wides or mobile homes, they are campers. The one that is going into this garage could be a Class A motor home but who knows until it is actually on the property.

Miekies 03-10-2022 07:39 AM

Many of the most expensive Villages have an rv garage and they look beautiful once finished. Go drive around and see. The people that have these rv garages have large lots and it easily fits on the property. The vast majority of these RVs cost more than your home. Typically someone that pays build this type of garage for their RV cost $750,000 - 500,000. They are not motorless trailers building a garage for it. Completely absurd statement. I'm still relatively new here after selling our luxury high end RV to move here (we lived fulltime on ours for years traveling and exploring our great country in all the luxury creature comforts of a home) and drove around and saw beautiful high end Villages with RV garages and it did not lower the property value by any means. FYI the RV business is booming right now, just like the housing market

Life as I know it 03-10-2022 07:49 AM

A new development near Coleman?
 
It’s claim to fame is they have a prison there? As far as those big RV garages for the people that want their trailers close to them? The developer should only build them in one or two villages in that area. Make them all with RV garages. Try to make everyone happy…..and they will pay more for their property. To know that none of their neighbors will be turning them in for violation of the rules?
How nice it would be to live in a village with people that think like you and have instant friends to travel with. I can how people would love to live in areas that support their hobbies. I personally would not care to live next door to a guy who built his own wood work shop with his sawing all day.
So build them what they want in specific areas that will consider the rights of their neighbors…..it would be fair to everyone.

kcrazorbackfan 03-10-2022 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
Big happenings down by Water Lily Recreational Center.

If you happened to be going down Marsh Bend Trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on Corder Run in District 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
The Villages, you may want to be aware that the Developer Representative can and did grant an approval for an RV garage prior to the development being turned over to The Villages. The ARC process takes place once The Villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the Developer Representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now RV garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the Developer's Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions Relating to: Villages of Southern Oaks Unit No. 30A.

2.4 "Harmonious with the development as to... design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "Developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (A) will benefit and enhance the entire Subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "Outside structure permanently attached to the Home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a HUGE screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The Villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the Developer before YOUR neighborhood transfers to The Villages for approval to store an RV at your home.

Buyers Beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble OPINION this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

What say you??Attachment 92922

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Good lord. WTH does it matter?

All the s#%t going on in America and the world and someone is worried about an RV garage. I think it’s great with the cost of RV’s today it’s a way to keep it looking good.

Stu from NYC 03-10-2022 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2070724)
Good lord. WTH does it matter?

All the s#%t going on in America and the world and someone is worried about an RV garage. I think it’s great with the cost of RV’s today it’s a way to keep it looking good.

How would you like it if you built a house in a residential area and than found out an RV garage would be your next door neighbor?

DeeCee Dubya 03-10-2022 08:38 AM

Sounds like someone is jealous that they can’t afford an RV in the garage. Mind your own business.

jimkerr 03-10-2022 09:02 AM

I see nothing wrong with an RV garage. Whether I look out my window and see stucco on a house or garage doesn’t matter.

Why can’t people be happy for our future Villages neighbors?

Stu from NYC 03-10-2022 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jimkerr (Post 2070759)
I see nothing wrong with an RV garage. Whether I look out my window and see stucco on a house or garage doesn’t matter.

Why can’t people be happy for our future Villages neighbors?

How would you feel if down the road you could not sell your house due to your next door neighbors large garage?

PugMom 03-10-2022 09:14 AM

op,...and the problem is...?:ohdear:

PugMom 03-10-2022 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2070733)
How would you like it if you built a house in a residential area and than found out an RV garage would be your next door neighbor?

wouldn't matter to me, either way, it's not the end of the world

ElDiabloJoe 03-10-2022 09:36 AM

I agree that an RV garage can be an eyesore. If it were amongst PV or CYVs, it would be a serious issue. If, however, it is on a lot that can support the size of the structure with appropriate setbacks, etc. and the facade is similar to standard housing materials (not standard metal building), it can easily blend into the community and be a useful space to have.

So, I believe it largely depends on where it is located and how it is sheathed as to whether or not it is an eyesore.

kkingston57 03-10-2022 09:41 AM

Saw homes in Harbor Hills which had similar garage and they blended in with the existing structure and were not an eyesore.

Per OP this garage was per code and architectural standards. Before commenting responders should wait to see it when finished.


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