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lennyclark 03-15-2022 06:12 AM

Gate attendants
 
Manned gates / non manned gates. Can the villages remove the gate attendants I recently see the villages installing gate access buttons to the visitors gate that did not previously have them..are manned gates codified in deeds or documents
Or can the villages eliminate the maned gates. Thank you

JerryP 03-15-2022 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lennyclark (Post 2072597)
Manned gates / non manned gates. Can the villages remove the gate attendants I recently see the villages installing gate access buttons to the visitors gate that did not previously have them..are manned gates codified in deeds or documents
Or can the villages eliminate the maned gates. Thank you

All gates with or without attendants have access buttons.

Investment Painting Contractors 03-15-2022 06:31 AM

Gate Attendants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lennyclark (Post 2072597)
Manned gates / non manned gates. Can the villages remove the gate attendants I recently see the villages installing gate access buttons to the visitors gate that did not previously have them..are manned gates codified in deeds or documents
Or can the villages eliminate the maned gates. Thank you

The gates attendants are there to control the flow of cars and golf carts. They also have small maps to help your visiting relatives find your house. The gates have always had buttons. I hope this helps. Len & Mary The Retired Half of IPC

Stu from NYC 03-15-2022 07:11 AM

Why do some villages have attendants and many like ours in Bonita does not?

RICH1 03-15-2022 07:34 AM

A Gate attendant is like having a lookout on the Titanic!

MrFlorida 03-15-2022 07:54 AM

All gates have red buttons, regardless of attendant or not.

davem4616 03-15-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072644)
Why do some villages have attendants and many like ours in Bonita does not?


Stu, gate houses had to be a part of the original design by the developer...as time when by the gate houses seemed to become a thing of the past...IMO

Michael G. 03-15-2022 08:51 AM

I always believed those gates with push buttons and guards in guard houses are there
to get traffic to stop long enough to profile them through videos on entry.

dewilson58 03-15-2022 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2072653)
A Gate attendant is like having a lookout on the Titanic!

Would have saved many lives.

davem4616 03-15-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2072706)
I always believed those gates with push buttons and guards in guard houses are there
to get traffic to stop long enough to profile them through videos on entry.

the gates, curved roads and traffic circles are all part of the design to slow the traffic down

Topspinmo 03-15-2022 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2072712)
Would have saved many lives.


Didn’t they have lookouts? I think the caption and radio operator was off duty, so the boat wasn’t made aware iceberg warnings, and it was streaming along faster Than normal?

Topspinmo 03-15-2022 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2072714)
the gates, curved roads and traffic circles are all part of the design to slow the traffic down

Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.

coffeebean 03-15-2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072644)
Why do some villages have attendants and many like ours in Bonita does not?

The Mallory gate is unmanned and I like it that way.

davem4616 03-15-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2072721)
Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.


they most certainly do

Mrprez 03-15-2022 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2072706)
I always believed those gates with push buttons and guards in guard houses are there
to get traffic to stop long enough to profile them through videos on entry.

There is usually a cart crossing on the other side of the gate. Maybe it is to slow down traffic enough to let a few carts cross the road?

Bogie Shooter 03-15-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2072746)
There is usually a cart crossing on the other side of the gate. Maybe it is to slow down traffic enough to let a few carts cross the road?

No maybe’s about that.

Stu from NYC 03-15-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2072696)
Stu, gate houses had to be a part of the original design by the developer...as time when by the gate houses seemed to become a thing of the past...IMO

But in the Fenney area there are gatehouses so still wondering why some do and some do not.

Mrprez 03-15-2022 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072765)
But in the Fenney area there are gatehouses so still wondering why some do and some do not.

There is a gatehouse going into the new Richmond area as well.

bimmertl 03-15-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2072759)
No maybe’s about that.

The Springdale gate off Buena Vista isn't manned and there is a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate. Never saw or heard of a problem with carts versus cars at that gate.

JMintzer 03-15-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2072721)
Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.

Incorrect. Their main purpose is to improve traffic flow, albeit at a slower pace...

JMintzer 03-15-2022 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2072706)
I always believed those gates with push buttons and guards in guard houses are there
to get traffic to stop long enough to profile them through videos on entry.

No, they don't do that...

Mrprez 03-15-2022 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 2072789)
The Springdale gate off Buena Vista isn't manned and there is a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate. Never saw or heard of a problem with carts versus cars at that gate.

And what would be the result of the removal of the gates? Cart drivers would be taking their lives into their own hands trying to cross.

bimmertl 03-15-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2072821)
And what would be the result of the removal of the gates? Cart drivers would be taking their lives into their own hands trying to cross.

Never said the gate should be removed. How did you come to that erroneous conclusion?

Reply was in response to allegations that an attendant is needed at gates that have golf cart crossings close to gates. There is no attendant at the Springdale gate, which has a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate, and there are no problems.

JMintzer 03-15-2022 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072765)
But in the Fenney area there are gatehouses so still wondering why some do and some do not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2072783)
There is a gatehouse going into the new Richmond area as well.

Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just for the aesthetics...

SIRE1 03-15-2022 01:42 PM

To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

Stu from NYC 03-15-2022 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072831)
Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just fir the aesthetics...

Fenney is manned except when a female is there opening the gates.

Michael G. 03-15-2022 02:15 PM

In other words all of tv is gated, not guarded as the sales people like to make you believe.

Or here's my favorite, selling lots on a lake.
NO, it's a pond.

JMintzer 03-15-2022 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072839)
Fenney is manned except when a female is there opening the gates.

Ah, so then they're "femaled"... :clap2:

Bogie Shooter 03-15-2022 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 2072833)
To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

Didn’t the CDD pay for the bathroom, not TV?

Michael G. 03-15-2022 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072819)
No, they don't do that...

And you know that for sure, HOW?

Stu from NYC 03-15-2022 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072865)
Ah, so then they're "femaled"... :clap2:

Irregardless of this why do some gates have a house with attendant and some not?

JMintzer 03-15-2022 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2072869)
And you know that for sure, HOW?

Traffic studies. Read up on them. Google is your friend...

JMintzer 03-15-2022 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072870)
Irregardless of this why do some gates have a house with attendant and some not?

"Regardless" of that, it most likely a simple matter of aesthetics, space constraints, or simply because that's what the Developer wants...

Mrprez 03-15-2022 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072831)
Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just for the aesthetics...

Don’t know yet. There is a gatehouse, but no houses yet.

Mrprez 03-15-2022 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 2072825)
Never said the gate should be removed. How did you come to that erroneous conclusion?

Reply was in response to allegations that an attendant is needed at gates that have golf cart crossings close to gates. There is no attendant at the Springdale gate, which has a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate, and there are no problems.

There are far more crossings with no attendant than with. It is hazardous either way.

Bilyclub 03-15-2022 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 2072833)

And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

.

There are manned gates South of 466 and 466A. At least 5 off of Buena Vista. There are some off of Morse too.

Bogie Shooter 03-15-2022 04:07 PM

do a search on gate attendants. There are over 300 posts that say the same thing over and over.
Topic now competing with dog poop threads.
No new information....................................... ...................................

midiwiz 03-15-2022 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryP (Post 2072604)
All gates with or without attendants have access buttons.

None of this is a gated community just a community with gates

Hockey dude 03-15-2022 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 2072833)
To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

The gate houses serve several purposes. We provide directions to those who are lost and looking for help. Each gate house has the directions for each village that is around it.

We also call in traffic accidents and disabled vehicles that we see or are brought to our attention.

Many of the gate houses have heavy traffic and we help control the traffic flow. Too many people speed thru the gates and risk a serious accident with a golf cart.

The gate attendants are also CPR trained for emergencies.

Currently south of 44 there is a gate house at the Marsh Bend roundabout, one inside the main Feeney gate off of Warm Springs, and one under construction on Meggison Road.

The Marsh Bend gate house has the word maps (directions) for all the current new villages under constructio. From Chitty Chatty to St. Catherine to the rest of new construction along the turnpike.

jimkerr 03-15-2022 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 2072833)
To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

Yes, it looks like the new Village of Richmond will have a gate attendant.


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