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coffeebean 04-02-2022 01:33 PM

441 Construction
 
It seems the construction on 441/27 in the Home Depot vicinity has come to a screeching halt. Anyone know when this construction will resume and what might be the hold up? Thanks.

Nucky 04-02-2022 01:45 PM

Just taking a guess coffeebean but maybe it has something to do with the young man who passed there in a construction accident a short while back. It is a crime in this day and age that simple practices seem to not have been followed. Maybe there was not good management on the site. I wonder if they had weekly safety meetings?

Keefelane66 04-02-2022 02:39 PM

Seems to be normal road construction in Florida 466a into Wildwood good 2 years on the other end 466a Fruitland Park was another fiasco and work was suspended for cost overruns and delays. So expect another 2 years and I’m being optimistic

Bjeanj 04-02-2022 03:55 PM

I think it’s just the nature of road construction. Seems to take forever, doesn’t it?

villagetinker 04-02-2022 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2079433)
Seems to be normal road construction in Florida 466a into Wildwood good 2 years on the other end 466a Fruitland Park was another fiasco and work was suspended for cost overruns and delays. So expect another 2 years and I’m being optimistic

As I recall the part of 466a in Fruitland Park was never fully funded and therefore the delay. The last I saw, I think it was finally funded for later this year or next year. During the associated construction of 466a there were several articles regarding the lack of funding for the piece in Fruitland Park. The big mistake (IMHO) was starting the project without ALL of the funding in place.

Stu from NYC 04-02-2022 05:25 PM

27/441 is taking forever wish they would speed it up.

coffeebean 04-02-2022 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2079420)
Just taking a guess coffeebean but maybe it has something to do with the young man who passed there in a construction accident a short while back. It is a crime in this day and age that simple practices seem to not have been followed. Maybe there was not good management on the site. I wonder if they had weekly safety meetings?

Hubby just told me he saw construction workers at the site where the bridge is being removed so I don't think the death of the construction worker is causing the delay.

davem4616 04-02-2022 06:58 PM

for whatever reason, road construction seems to take a lot longer in FL than it did up north

Michael G. 04-02-2022 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2079496)
for whatever reason, road construction seems to take a lot longer in FL than it did up north

They don't have to rush down here because they can work year around.
Once the ground freezes and the snow comes up north most road projects better be finished.

Stu from NYC 04-02-2022 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2079496)
for whatever reason, road construction seems to take a lot longer in FL than it did up north

It does seem like it.

Wonder if this causes road costs to be higher?

Garywt 04-02-2022 09:02 PM

Everything in Florida moves slower than up north. Not sure the issue, I have never had an issue driving through the area. The lanes are open and the traffic moves along.

Stu from NYC 04-03-2022 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2079528)
Everything in Florida moves slower than up north. Not sure the issue, I have never had an issue driving through the area. The lanes are open and the traffic moves along.

Go make a left into Sams parking lot. So convoluted just take a longer way to get in.

WingedFoot78 04-03-2022 05:04 AM

To get to Sam's from SB 441, turn RIGHT at the light just past Sam's and make a U-turn ASAP. Go back to the light and make a left. Sam's will be on your right.

davem4616 04-03-2022 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2079516)
They don't have to rush down here because they can work year around.
Once the ground freezes and the snow comes up north most road projects better be finished.


Rarely do I ever see construction workers on the road projects here in Florida....my guess is that they must do a lot at night to avoid the heat(??)...yet you don't see any work lights

maybe all the workers are too busy putting out the orange barriers to actually do any real road work

thevillages2013 04-03-2022 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2079416)
It seems the construction on 441/27 in the Home Depot vicinity has come to a screeching halt. Anyone know when this construction will resume and what might be the hold up? Thanks.

Vaccine mandate?

Captainpd 04-03-2022 06:05 AM

Am not sure how you can expect anyone on this board to know something like that.

Stu from NYC 04-03-2022 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainpd (Post 2079587)
Am not sure how you can expect anyone on this board to know something like that.

Unless you quote the post you are referring to nobody will have a clue what you mean.

Jimf2018 04-03-2022 06:40 AM

Construction Timing
 
Per a recent article (without delays from the accidental death) the expected completion of this project was LATE FALL 2023. So no quick completion . . . .

Ken D. 04-03-2022 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2079496)
for whatever reason, road construction seems to take a lot longer in FL than it did up north

Those of us familiar with the “Big Dig” in Boston may disagree.

Michael G. 04-03-2022 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2079575)

maybe all the workers are too busy putting out the orange barriers to actually do any real road work

I was told when we lived up north, the construction company's only controls were
the barriers are placed, and a private company puts them up and removes them.

Don't know about that in Florida

jabacon6669 04-03-2022 07:04 AM

Construction in the south should be much quicker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2079496)
for whatever reason, road construction seems to take a lot longer in FL than it did up north

Up north you have cold temps to deal with. Plus the terrain is a lot more rugged, hills, ledge, etc.

nn0wheremann 04-03-2022 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingedFoot78 (Post 2079570)
To get to Sam's from SB 441, turn RIGHT at the light just past Sam's and make a U-turn ASAP. Go back to the light and make a left. Sam's will be on your right.

“Two wrongs never make a right, but three lefts do.” —The Deterioata

brfree1411@aol.com 04-03-2022 07:45 AM

Ever travel I40? Never ending work
!

Stu from NYC 04-03-2022 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken D. (Post 2079620)
Those of us familiar with the “Big Dig” in Boston may disagree.

I 95 in Ct might have gotten a worlds record for longest construction job in modern history

asianthree 04-03-2022 07:53 AM

I was told that the Snow has delayed the project by Months:ohdear:

DaleDivine 04-03-2022 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2079496)
for whatever reason, road construction seems to take a lot longer in FL than it did up north

I disagree. They're still working on road projects in Virginia that were being done when I left there 8 years ago.
The crews got the road widened between Tampa on I-75 pretty fast.
:clap2::clap2:

maistocars 04-03-2022 10:33 AM

The Villages construction crews would have completed it a year ago. If they offer no incentive to finish early, the only incentive is to bleed the project funds dry.

LianneMigiano 04-03-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2079518)
It does seem like it. Wonder if this causes road costs to be higher?

There certainly aren't the every-winter/spring frost heaves and pot holes everywhere down here as there are up north! Less yearly maintenance needed...

Garywt 04-03-2022 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2079556)
Go make a left into Sams parking lot. So convoluted just take a longer way to get in.

I don’t go to Sams so problem solved, lol.

Garywt 04-03-2022 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainpd (Post 2079587)
Am not sure how you can expect anyone on this board to know something like that.

The OP was probably just hoping someone saw or read something about what was going on or an update.

thevillages2013 04-03-2022 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainpd (Post 2079587)
Am not sure how you can expect anyone on this board to know something like that.

Were you not vetted by TOTV to make sure you had the ability to read minds before they allowed you to join? Hmmm , must have changed the policy

Aloha 04-03-2022 04:52 PM

Miles of barrels, cones and barriers. The road surface in places is disintegrating and dangerous. No workers or progress observed for long periods of time. Local government officials do not seem to care, as long as they receive their salary. Oh well...

jmpate 04-03-2022 06:02 PM

Road construction
 
I think road construction completion has everything to do with their contracts and incentives. In New Mexico (yes, the end of the earth), road construction was ALWAYS finished on time or ahead of time. Why? Because the contract included incentives for big bonuses for completion ahead of time....days, weeks, months. In the city we lived in, road construction was done at least a month or more ahead of time.

Maybe Florida needs to take a page out of that playbook bc every day there's delays, there's loss revenue for the state bc people won't spend $$, if they have to fight the traffic, idiotic drivers, the 80+age group that still drives and shouldn't!

DDToto41 04-03-2022 10:26 PM

You have to work faster up North because you only have 8 months to do it in.

billethkid 04-04-2022 07:59 AM

As long as the traffic keeps moving, it is not a problem (for some of us).

PugMom 04-04-2022 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken D. (Post 2079620)
Those of us familiar with the “Big Dig” in Boston may disagree.

:bigbow::1rotfl::clap2: sitting in traffic for 5-6 hours was quick :icon_wink:

PugMom 04-04-2022 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2079667)
I 95 in Ct might have gotten a worlds record for longest construction job in modern history

they still haven't fixed the waterbury mix-master. they were working on it when we left almost 4 years ago, & is still not complete

Stu from NYC 04-04-2022 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2080108)
they still haven't fixed the waterbury mix-master. they were working on it when we left almost 4 years ago, & is still not complete

As a good friend said to me some years ago they did have an architectural drawing show how the highway was supposed to look upon completion but it was lost and nobody wants to admit they have no clue how to finish it.

coffeebean 04-04-2022 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2079851)
The OP was probably just hoping someone saw or read something about what was going on or an update.

Exactly. OP here.

retiredguy123 04-04-2022 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2079416)
It seems the construction on 441/27 in the Home Depot vicinity has come to a screeching halt. Anyone know when this construction will resume and what might be the hold up? Thanks.

Here is the official answer I got from FDOT.

Thank you for reaching out!

This project has not been placed on hold.
There are different factors that may affect work on the construction site that can range from weather to labor and materials issues, among other reasons.
I will make sure to voice your concerns to the project team and please be rest assured that they are doing their best to move things along and get the job done.


kind regards,

Lynette Cruz | Community Outreach Coordinator
EXP U.S Services
In-House FDOT Consultant, District 5
Ocala/Leesburg Construction
Office: 352-326-7744 / 352-620-3020
Cell: 352-359-7059

Lynette.Cruz@dot.state.fl.us
Your source for information on FDOT projects in Central Florida


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