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MartinSE 05-27-2022 09:26 AM

Sacremento Gun Buy Back Plan
 
Gas for guns.

They offered gift cards for $50 of gas for guns - legal or illegal - and ran out of cards the first day - LOL!

Dozens of guns turned in to Sacramento Police in exchange for gift cards

Stu from NYC 05-27-2022 09:31 AM

Kind of depends who is giving back the guns, law abiding citizens or other?

tophcfa 05-27-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2099617)
Gas for guns.

They offered gift cards for $50 of gas for guns - legal or illegal - and ran out of cards the first day - LOL!

Dozens of guns turned in to Sacramento Police in exchange for gift cards

In the process of downsizing, recently sold the motorcycle and snowmobile and going to sell one of the ATV’s and several firearms, only going keep the 9mm Sig, the Marlin lever action 22, the Savage Arms bolt action 30-06, and Thompson Center Fire muzzleloader. That being said, I would be crazy to trade in any of my firearms, which are worth significant $$$, for a $50 gas card. And the world won’t be any safer when I downsize since the firearms are always locked in a safe unless being used for hunting or target practice. But I will be happier, since I’ll get much more use out of the new Yamaha Quiet Tech that I buy with the sale proceeds : (

MartinSE 05-27-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2099652)
In the process of downsizing, recently sold the motorcycle and snowmobile and going to sell one of the ATV’s and several firearms, only going keep the 9mm Sig, the Marlin lever action 22, the Savage Arms bolt action 30-06, and Thompson Center Fire muzzleloader. That being said, I would be crazy to trade in any of my firearms, which are worth significant $$$, for a $50 gas card. And the world won’t be any safer when I downsize since the firearms are always locked in a safe unless being used for hunting or target practice. But I will be happier, since I’ll get much more use out of the new Yamaha Quiet Tech that I buy with the sale proceeds : (

Oh, I don't disagree with you. In fact, I literally laughed out loud when I read the article. My wife was startled and asked me why.

And, guess the "gem" in the article is that that almost instantly ran out of cards... hmm. seems to be a desirable action. It certainly will not make a dent in the 400 million guns in circulation, but it is certainly a symbol. Maybe death by a million cuts to guns...

But, I doubt it.

MartinSE 05-27-2022 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2099620)
Kind of depends who is giving back the guns, law abiding citizens or other?

hmm, I don't agree, it means fewer guns in circulation. If a million cities did that (I don't think we have a million cities even if you count towns) it would remove 134 million guns.

Not going to happen, it is just a symbol. But, symbols are good. The Flag is a symbol. It wont stop a bullet, but it is still good to have.

Taltarzac725 05-27-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2099617)
Gas for guns.

They offered gift cards for $50 of gas for guns - legal or illegal - and ran out of cards the first day - LOL!

Dozens of guns turned in to Sacramento Police in exchange for gift cards

Read the article!

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According to the department, officers were told by the public that a “lack of experience” with firearms and a “lack of knowledge” of the legality of guns or the “inability” to safely store the firearms were the main reasons they turned in their weapons.
If they do not how to safely use, store, clean etc., a firearm then maybe they should not own them.

billethkid 05-27-2022 11:42 AM

An elected officials, chest puffing, do nothing/accomplish nothing action!

GpaVader 05-27-2022 12:21 PM

What it didn't tell you is that they only had 12 cards....

Stu from NYC 05-27-2022 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2099660)
hmm, I don't agree, it means fewer guns in circulation. If a million cities did that (I don't think we have a million cities even if you count towns) it would remove 134 million guns.

Not going to happen, it is just a symbol. But, symbols are good. The Flag is a symbol. It wont stop a bullet, but it is still good to have.

We can agree to disagree but the guns that come back are not likely to be ones used in committing a crime so what is being accomplished?

Makes a few politicians feel good and perhaps fools some of their constituents.

MartinSE 05-27-2022 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2099661)
Read the article!



If they do not how to safely use, store, clean etc., a firearm then maybe they should not own them.

I did read the article. And I agree with your conclusion. And my point of the post was that it is one way to reduce the number of guns in circulation - a very small way but a way. I don't really care WHY people are legally disposing of guns, just that they are.

People that are responsible gun owners and want guns, I say go for it.

MartinSE 05-27-2022 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2099711)
We can agree to disagree but the guns that come back are not likely to be ones used in committing a crime so what is being accomplished?

Makes a few politicians feel good and perhaps fools some of their constituents.

I think fewer "unwanted" guns being turned in means they won't get stolen and used in crimes, won't be disposed of in ways that could lead to them being found and used, and certainly WON'T be found by their children and used. (one of the reasons given was they didn't know how to safely store them)

Fewer guns is better - for me. As I said, it is small to the point of insignificant. But it is a reduction.

MartinSE 05-27-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GpaVader (Post 2099702)
What it didn't tell you is that they only had 12 cards....

Actually they did tell us how many. If you want to know the TRUTH, read the article.

MartinSE 05-27-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2099684)
An elected officials, chest puffing, do nothing/accomplish nothing action!

#SAD

It would appear that anything anyone does that someone doesn't agree with is just "chest puffing". To me it was a symbolic act. Obviously no one thinks taking 134 guns off the street in a country with 400 million is circulation is going to make any difference.

It was a symbol. Kind of like wearing school colors, flying the flag, marrying an arm ornament, and on and on. We are a country built on symbols.

MDLNB 05-27-2022 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2099617)
Gas for guns.

They offered gift cards for $50 of gas for guns - legal or illegal - and ran out of cards the first day - LOL!

Dozens of guns turned in to Sacramento Police in exchange for gift cards


Funny! They aren't very bright, unless they are turning in stolen, broken or junk guns. Of course, now the gangs/criminals will have less resistance.

MDLNB 05-27-2022 01:35 PM

Hmmm, maybe I will offer TWO gas cards for a gun turned in. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

MrFlorida 05-27-2022 01:48 PM

And I doubt any were from gang bangers.

MartinSE 05-27-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2099746)
And I doubt any were from gang bangers.

Is there a point to this, cause if there is I missed it...

Stu from NYC 05-27-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2099740)
Hmmm, maybe I will offer TWO gas cards for a gun turned in. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Or how about something of more interest like girls for guns.:bigbow:

GpaVader 05-27-2022 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2099729)
Actually they did tell us how many. If you want to know the TRUTH, read the article.

I did, and was just being a smarta$$....

This is like draining the ocean with a spoon, while in theory this helps or can. I also seen many cases where the buy back guns were stolen and sold back out again. I hope it works but I'm not holding my breath either...

MartinSE 05-27-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2099740)
Hmmm, maybe I will offer TWO gas cards for a gun turned in. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

As far as I can tell from your posts here, and your positions on guns, I would guess you are a responsible gun owner. So, I would say PLEASE do. Getting guns out of hands of careless, irresponsible, and casual owners hand will go a long way to solving the "excess" gun problem that I believe exists.

Yeah, go for it, think how many guns you could collect for the cost of one collectable Lugar ($34K low end)

MartinSE 05-27-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GpaVader (Post 2099764)
I did, and was just being a smarta$$....

This is like draining the ocean with a spoon, while in theory this helps or can. I also seen many cases where the buy back guns were stolen and sold back out again. I hope it works but I'm not holding my breath either...

Sorry, it is hard to see sarcasm in posts. I am guilty of that myself.

Yes, it is like draining the ocean with a teaspoon - I agree. I do not think for a. moment they expected to make a dent in their gun problem. It was a publicity "stunt" to bring attention to the public. Getting peoples attention on this topic can be hard. After 20 years people are a bit burned out.

Stu from NYC 05-27-2022 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2099773)
As far as I can tell from your posts here, and your positions on guns, I would guess you are a responsible gun owner. So, I would say PLEASE do. Getting guns out of hands of careless, irresponsible, and casual owners hand will go a long way to solving the "excess" gun problem that I believe exists.

Yeah, go for it, think how many guns you could collect for the cost of one collectable Lugar ($34K low end)

Agree that there are too many guns in our country but this buy back does not get the right guns off the street.

Petersweeney 05-28-2022 04:39 AM

Program is run and financed by gun companies to get customers to upgrade………so what’s the point?

Blackbird45 05-28-2022 04:43 AM

Maybe a permit?
 
I own a gun and have a permit from upstate New York. So, I am not against firearms, what I heard in a news report was many of the guns that were being turned in were from people who didn't even know how to use a gun. Either they inherited the piece or purchased them because of unwarranted fear.

I know the argument for and against guns, but when it comes to home safety, I believe an alarm system is a better choice.

I also believe that there should be some enforce safety instruction that people should have to take before they purchase a certain class of firearm.

Stu from NYC 05-28-2022 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2099944)
I own a gun and have a permit from upstate New York. So, I am not against firearms, what I heard in a news report was many of the guns that were being turned in were from people who didn't even know how to use a gun. Either they inherited the piece or purchased them because of unwarranted fear.

I know the argument for and against guns, but when it comes to home safety, I believe an alarm system is a better choice.

I also believe that there should be some enforce safety instruction that people should have to take before they purchase a certain class of firearm.

People should know how to operate a firearm before being allowed to take it home.

jdulej 05-28-2022 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2099946)
People should know how to operate a firearm before being allowed to take it home.

Careful, you are starting to rub up against my 2nd amendment. It's like suggesting that someone should know who/what they are voting for/on - not required

jdulej 05-28-2022 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2099823)
Agree that there are too many guns in our country but this buy back does not get the right guns off the street.

I think many would agree that if it keeps one kid from finding grandpa's old gun under the bed and blowing his brother's head off, it would be well worth it.

Blackbird45 05-28-2022 05:24 AM

A bit of knowledge
 
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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2099949)
Careful, you are starting to rub up against my 2nd amendment. It's like suggesting that someone should know who/what they are voting for/on - not required

There are many disagreements in actually what the 2 amendment really states.
But putting that aside, I personally would not purchase anything if I don't know how to use it. Not only for my own protection, but for that of others.
When I obtain my firearm and permit I first had to see a judge because I had a record from my youth. Part of me obtaining my permit was that he required me to take some classes.

If you respect the safety of other people you should at least learn how to use what your holding.

GizmoWhiskers 05-28-2022 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GpaVader (Post 2099702)
What it didn't tell you is that they only had 12 cards....

I wonder at what age level, pronoun and language the sign was targeted (no pun intended) to and were free pipes and drugs included with that deal?

ithos 05-28-2022 06:03 AM

The should take those guns and provide them to law abiding citizens with clean records after they pass a firearm training course.
Usually the higher percentage of legal gun ownership in a community the lower the crime.

If you want to reduce the murders, the first step is to stop the no bail, revolving door policies of the radical DAs.

waterflower 05-28-2022 06:09 AM

Lets try something new. Defund the c i a's black ops mind control program and big pharma psychotropic drugs..Maybe just maybe we will not have the tragic events that occur.

me4vt 05-28-2022 06:09 AM

After 9-11 they didn’t ban airplanes they secured the cockpits!

When the #@$%§ eject GOD from everything and insert Worldly ways into everything, this is what “We” get”! Evil in everything🧐

thevillages2013 05-28-2022 06:17 AM

So they used taxpayer money to buy gift cards to exchange for guns. For $50 the recipients got approximately 7 gallons of gas. Tell me the world isn’t upside down now

Joe C. 05-28-2022 06:25 AM

Here we go again ....... The media is using phrases and words to put the sheeple in their place. GUN BUY-BACK PROGRAM ?.....Will someone tell me how in the hell someone can "buy back" something that they never owned in the first place? It gives the sheeple the belief that those firearms were "given" or sold to the public by the "authorities".
Probably a lot of those firearms were stolen or didn't belong to the person who turned them in, and were possibly used in a crime. There were no questions asked.
Anyway, the people who collected those firearms all had a goodly array of firearms to choose from. I'm sure that they weren't destroyed, just given to the cops to keep.

But a gun "buy-back"? How about calling it something else? Maybe a "gun buy-out"?

CharlesNT 05-28-2022 06:30 AM

I guarantee it’s not other…

dougjb 05-28-2022 06:31 AM

Cars are dangerous instrumentalities. We register our cars. We pass a driving test to drive this inherently dangerous thing.

We should demand that each and every gun in America be registered. We should demand that each and every gun owner pass a mental fitness test and a rigorous test as to a gun's usage.

Unlike cars, however, we should demand that any person wishing to own more than one gun, PROVE their need!

And, in my plan, anyone not registering all their guns and taking the required tests would be guilty of a criminal act subject to jail time.

Of course, law abiding citizens would want to comply and seek compliance. But, criminals and gun nuts (aka criminals) would forego compliance. Give the coppers another chance to lock these folks up.

Perhaps we might ultimately realize that gun ownership is counterproductive in our society. Then, only criminals and gun nuts will own guns.

Almost all other civilized countries in the world have gotten their arms around gun violence. Shootings in Western Europe, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand have annual shootings of people in the the low two digit range while we have over 30,000. Some like Australia historically had a gun heritage similar to our own (think Wild West). But, when they experienced a nut case going off the rails and shooting up a bunch of people, they got together and realized they could not keep going on this way. Mass ownership of guns in Australia is a thing of the past. New Zealand recently did the same thing. It is not unusual in the UK for instance to be in Southeastern England to have the BBC report a shooting (not a killing) that occured in Scotland, such is the uniqueness of gun violence there. Here, we don't even hear of a killing by a gun being reported in the next neighborhood over.

The time has come for all people, gun owners and non gun owners to demand action.

Ultimately, we should just ban guns...totally....except for cops and military.

For those who argue, guns don't kill people, people kill people, I would argue its a lot easier to ban guns than people. If people want to kill others, let them do it the old fashion way, with fists and stones. We would have a lot fewer mass killings!

dougawhite 05-28-2022 06:34 AM

If a city truly wants to remove guns in a way that is meaningful to reduce crime they should do stop and frisk every night in crime-ridden neighborhoods. Also, regular no-knock warrants of known ex-con residences. If they don't do things like that then they are NOT serious about the problem.

kenoc7 05-28-2022 06:37 AM

Gun buy back
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2099652)
In the process of downsizing, recently sold the motorcycle and snowmobile and going to sell one of the ATV’s and several firearms, only going keep the 9mm Sig, the Marlin lever action 22, the Savage Arms bolt action 30-06, and Thompson Center Fire muzzleloader. That being said, I would be crazy to trade in any of my firearms, which are worth significant $$$, for a $50 gas card. And the world won’t be any safer when I downsize since the firearms are always locked in a safe unless being used for hunting or target practice. But I will be happier, since I’ll get much more use out of the new Yamaha Quiet Tech that I buy with the sale proceeds : (

I understand that you are a safe, responsible gun owner but why on earth do you need three guns?

kenoc7 05-28-2022 06:39 AM

Guns
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 2099980)
Cars are dangerous instrumentalities. We register our cars. We pass a driving test to drive this inherently dangerous thing.

We should demand that each and every gun in America be registered. We should demand that each and every gun owner pass a mental fitness test and a rigorous test as to a gun's usage.

Unlike cars, however, we should demand that any person wishing to own more than one gun, PROVE their need!

And, in my plan, anyone not registering all their guns and taking the required tests would be guilty of a criminal act subject to jail time.

Of course, law abiding citizens would want to comply and seek compliance. But, criminals and gun nuts (aka criminals) would forego compliance. Give the coppers another chance to lock these folks up.

Perhaps we might ultimately realize that gun ownership is counterproductive in our society. Then, only criminals and gun nuts will own guns.

Almost all other civilized countries in the world have gotten their arms around gun violence. Shootings in Western Europe, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand have annual shootings of people in the the low two digit range while we have over 30,000. Some like Australia historically had a gun heritage similar to our own (think Wild West). But, when they experienced a nut case going off the rails and shooting up a bunch of people, they got together and realized they could not keep going on this way. Mass ownership of guns in Australia is a thing of the past. New Zealand recently did the same thing. It is not unusual in the UK for instance to be in Southeastern England to have the BBC report a shooting (not a killing) that occured in Scotland, such is the uniqueness of gun violence there. Here, we don't even hear of a killing by a gun being reported in the next neighborhood over.

The time has come for all people, gun owners and non gun owners to demand action.

Ultimately, we should just ban guns...totally....except for cops and military.

For those who argue, guns don't kill people, people kill people, I would argue its a lot easier to ban guns than people. If people want to kill others, let them do it the old fashion way, with fists and stones. We would have a lot fewer mass killings!

What a wonderful statement; shout it all from the rooftops.

Wilson02852 05-28-2022 06:58 AM

Why Not Video Games
 
Maybe they should try this with violence based video games. They do nothing but degrade the value of life in many young minds.

It's more than a gun problem.


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