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dietpepsi 05-28-2022 02:06 PM

Ashland Pool- Loud Music-Bottle Beer-BarkingDog!
 
Every Wednesday and Sunday there is a group that has very loud Polka music playing that u can hear over the entire pool from there boom box, BOTTLES of beer, and a dog that lays under the table barking at people if you attempt to. go the restroom ( it is obviously not a service animal). These people have taken over this pool with absolutely zero consideration of others, I have called about them, zero help from the from the recreation department! any ideas rather than going to another pool? Ashland is within walking distance for us.

rustyp 05-28-2022 02:09 PM

RAP music and a bigger dog

Stu from NYC 05-28-2022 02:18 PM

Have you spoken to them?

tophcfa 05-28-2022 02:55 PM

There is no place for bottled beer, or any other type of glass, in a pool area where people walk around barefoot. Accidents happen. Now if it were cans of beer, it would be a different story : )

Bogie Shooter 05-28-2022 03:18 PM

Talk to the folks, point the no glass signs.
Personal visit to the Recreation Department.
Call your district rep.
The behavior you describe is NOT acceptable!

vintageogauge 05-28-2022 03:27 PM

I can't believe that the rec. center manager would allow glass bottles at the pool. Are you sure they are glass as they do have plastic brown beer bottles now. Also I can't believe that they would allow the dog to stay unless it is a service dog and the owner has the proper papers. So, if it's a service dog and if the bottles are plastic they are not breaking any of the posted rules.

coffeebean 05-28-2022 03:28 PM

How about recording their shenanigans? Then bring the recording to the proper people who can do something about them. That is not appropriate behavior and they should not be able to continue to disturb those around them in such a manner.

coffeebean 05-28-2022 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2100237)
I can't believe that the rec. center manager would allow glass bottles at the pool. Are you sure they are glass as they do have plastic brown beer bottles now. Also I can't believe that they would allow the dog to stay unless it is a service dog and the owner has the proper papers. So, if it's a service dog and if the bottles are plastic they are not breaking any of the posted rules.

What about their booming polka music? If the dog barks at anyone who walks by, that dog is not a service dog but is a pet. Do these people not realize they are disturbing the environment for the people around them or don't they care? Do they realize they are not in their own back yard?

Topspinmo 05-28-2022 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2100237)
I can't believe that the rec. center manager would allow glass bottles at the pool. Are you sure they are glass as they do have plastic brown beer bottles now. Also I can't believe that they would allow the dog to stay unless it is a service dog and the owner has the proper papers. So, if it's a service dog and if the bottles are plastic they are not breaking any of the posted rules.


Service dogs are trained not to bark, probably one of them fake support dogs đŸ¶ :duck:

Stu from NYC 05-28-2022 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2100241)
What about their booming polka music? If the dog barks at anyone who walks by, that dog is not a service dog but is a pet. Do these people not realize they are disturbing the environment for the people around them or don't they care? Do they realize they are not in their own back yard?

This is why I suggested trying to talk to them. If that does not work than up the ante.

Papa_lecki 05-28-2022 04:28 PM

If the glass bottle break NEAR the pool, common protocol is to drain the pool, to be sure there are no pieces of glass in the pool.

Expensive proposition and closes the pool for a week.

Recreation will respond.

thevillages2013 05-29-2022 04:47 AM

Churchill Street and Lynhaven pools are right up Churchill Downs which intersects with Lynhaven about 1/8 mile from Ashland pool

Mushkie 05-29-2022 05:22 AM

Community watch or call the police
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dietpepsi (Post 2100211)
Every Wednesday and Sunday there is a group that has very loud Polka music playing that u can hear over the entire pool from there boom box, BOTTLES of beer, and a dog that lays under the table barking at people if you attempt to. go the restroom ( it is obviously not a service animal). These people have taken over this pool with absolutely zero consideration of others, I have called about them, zero help from the from the recreation department! any ideas rather than going to another pool? Ashland is within walking distance for us.

This doesn’t sound like the actions of Villagers- either this is done by non-Villagers or dead beat kids, grandkids.

I would call community watch and if they don’t or won’t take appropriate action, call the police and animal control.

fdpaq0580 05-29-2022 05:29 AM

Sorry, OP, but you don't seem to be getting much help here, so far.
OP has called rec dept.. No help.
"Talk to them". Confronting an alcohol infused rowdy group is a bad idea, imho.
Service dog??? Supposedly, not even allowed to ask. If you ask anyway, they will likely tell you to "go pound sand".
Bigger boom box and rap music? Seems counter productive, makes OP the new bad neighbor and possibly starts a "turf war".
As residents, we have no more power than neighborhood watch. Our responsibility and authority extends to calling the rec dept. For all we know the "polka party" may not even be villagers. The rec dept is and should be the one who ensures that no resident is afraid or uncomfortable when trying to enjoy the ammenities they pay for.

msilagy 05-29-2022 05:47 AM

I go to the Ashland pool and the music starts at 2:30 - 3:00 on Wednesdays and Sundays. It starts out at a pretty low volume and as people begin to leave about 4:30 or so the volume increases a bit. People dance in the pool and overall it's a fun afternoon. I have never seen a dog barking there and that should stop but it has nothing to do with the man who brings the music. Have never heard polka music played. If you don't like it on those days jump in your golf cart and go to Bonnybrook 3 blocks away or the Lynnhaven, and Churchill pools also very close. Don't complain about something many people enjoy on those 2 afternoons for a couple of hours! Go early or someplace else and sit in silence on Wednesday and Sunday. After reading all the posts the people responding are not getting a clear picture - no one is rowdy, it's not kids doing this and it's not a boom box. It's an older gentleman, a nice guy, and the people are seniors not rowdy younger ones. The dog should go if it's barking at people and I can't imagine whose dog that is as the gentleman that plays the music does not have a dog. The person that comes by to check ID's laughs and joins in on the fun of music - MUSIC - folks! Not POLKA music all kinds of music which supplies much happiness in life. You are misrepresenting this situation - Please go somewhere else on those afternoons and don't try and ruin it for others that enjoy this!
Update about the dog: The dog is a service dog. Pete's caretaker (Pete is 99 years old) brings him over on Sunday with the dog. The dog has never barked and does lay next to the caretaker. Some people need to get a life.

msilagy 05-29-2022 05:48 AM

It is cans, never saw a bottle!!!! Don't believe everything you read - the post is not accurate!

Monika Greiner 05-29-2022 06:02 AM

Ashland pool loud Music-Bottle Beer
 
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Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2100395)
It is cans, never saw a bottle!!!! Don't believe everything you read - the post is not accurate!

I believe this person is Jealous. Let people be happy.

brianherlihy 05-29-2022 06:06 AM

it is not a good place

Bill14564 05-29-2022 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2100394)
I go to the Ashland pool and the music starts at 2:30 - 3:00 on Wednesdays and Sundays. It starts out at a pretty low volume and as people begin to leave about 4:30 or so the volume increases a bit. People dance in the pool and overall it's a fun afternoon. I have never seen a dog barking there and that should stop but it has nothing to do with the man who brings the music. Have never heard polka music played. If you don't like it on those days jump in your golf cart and go to Bonnybrook 3 blocks away or the Lynnhaven, and Churchill pools also very close. Don't complain about something many people enjoy on those 2 afternoons for a couple of hours! Go early or someplace else and sit in silence on Wednesday and Sunday. After reading all the posts the people responding are not getting a clear picture - no one is rowdy, it's not kids doing this and it's not a boom box. It's an older gentleman, a nice guy, and the people are seniors not rowdy younger ones. The dog should go if it's barking at people and I can't imagine whose dog that is as the gentleman that plays the music does not have a dog. The person that comes by to check ID's laughs and joins in on the fun of music - MUSIC - folks! Not POLKA music all kinds of music which supplies much happiness in life. You are misrepresenting this situation - Please go somewhere else on those afternoons and don't try and ruin it for others that enjoy this!

Who do I contact about scheduling a few hours on a couple days per week when my group can take over the pool playing MUSIC (Not POLKA music) that I like loud enough for all to hear? Is there a special sign that says, "Neighborhood pool reserved for those who like my music"?

I hate "well if you just followed the rules...." but even common sense would say that a regularly-scheduled event doesn't belong at the neighborhood pool. The pool is for the community, not for special groups, and the ones who should "go somewhere else" are those that feel they are entitled to inflict their music and pets on others.

Sandy and Ed 05-29-2022 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2100378)
Churchill Street and Lynhaven pools are right up Churchill Downs which intersects with Lynhaven about 1/8 mile from Ashland pool

Yeah but I don’t think that was the point. Some folks think they are “entitled” to break all rules and disrupt others. Moving to another venue does not solve the problem, it perpetuates it. One of the problems we have in our large cities: just look the other way and it will go away. “Don’t worry be happy”??? Attitude doesn’t work. I have nothing against having fun nor music nor dogs (I have one) but I can understand the rules. The intent is to create an environment suitable for ALL residents in COMMON areas for ALL to enjoy. I suggest that they have these parties at a more suitable location, maybe on one of the greens at the golf course. Surely no one would mind that

UPDATE: I have to temper this somewhat. Rules say no pets? I guess that would exclude a service dog. Riles say no glass around pool. No debate on that score. Cans and plastic ok - bottles not ok. Music?? Volume may be somewhat subjective. But if not blasting the neighborhood, why not. Original poster exaggerating??? Who knows. Maybe I’ll have to go over there on Wednesday

hrenner 05-29-2022 06:18 AM

On the rec website it says people should use headphones as to not bother others. A recommendation, not a "don't play music" rule

Worldseries27 05-29-2022 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2100238)
how about recording their shenanigans? Then bring the recording to the proper people who can do something about them. That is not appropriate behavior and they should not be able to continue to disturb those around them in such a manner.

diet coke drinking pool boy shows up at st peters gate asking for entry saying he's done good things.
St peter says only people who did great things may enter
pool boy says ive done great things. I sacrificed myself to get evidence that the polka people are partying at the pool
st peter asks how long ago was this?
Pool boy says it was 5 minutes ago.
St peter schedules a hearing with st john paul ii.
St peter mutters, why
didnt they use kielbasa
to lure them out?
St peter calls up 10 friends to join the party and they find the trinity is already there performing for the polka crowd

Petersweeney 05-29-2022 06:36 AM

Leave em
alone they are making plans for the invasion of Russia!

MandoMan 05-29-2022 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dietpepsi (Post 2100211)
Every Wednesday and Sunday there is a group that has very loud Polka music playing that u can hear over the entire pool from there boom box, BOTTLES of beer, and a dog that lays under the table barking at people if you attempt to. go the restroom ( it is obviously not a service animal). These people have taken over this pool with absolutely zero consideration of others, I have called about them, zero help from the from the recreation department! any ideas rather than going to another pool? Ashland is within walking distance for us.

Very loud polka music? What fun! Would that be the Lawrence Welk kind of polka? The kind loved by Czechs? Bohemians? Bavarians? Poles? I wonder if this a group of people who have come from some European country and enjoy getting together at a pool weekly. I would be really offended if rap or heavy metal were being played at a pool, even quietly, but I’m okay with polka.
https://youtu.be/rX-ahZT2AbE

bowlingal 05-29-2022 07:23 AM

call or text or e-mail John Rohan, director of the recreation dept. He does not like it when villagers complain and he will get in touch with rec center manager that handles that pool. He will take action

Waltdisney4life 05-29-2022 07:36 AM

Fake news strikes again!

RICH1 05-29-2022 08:07 AM

Not Residents of the Villages!

MALANIER 05-29-2022 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2100394)
I go to the Ashland pool and the music starts at 2:30 - 3:00 on Wednesdays and Sundays. It starts out at a pretty low volume and as people begin to leave about 4:30 or so the volume increases a bit. People dance in the pool and overall it's a fun afternoon. I have never seen a dog barking there and that should stop but it has nothing to do with the man who brings the music. Have never heard polka music played. If you don't like it on those days jump in your golf cart and go to Bonnybrook 3 blocks away or the Lynnhaven, and Churchill pools also very close. Don't complain about something many people enjoy on those 2 afternoons for a couple of hours! Go early or someplace else and sit in silence on Wednesday and Sunday. After reading all the posts the people responding are not getting a clear picture - no one is rowdy, it's not kids doing this and it's not a boom box. It's an older gentleman, a nice guy, and the people are seniors not rowdy younger ones. The dog should go if it's barking at people and I can't imagine whose dog that is as the gentleman that plays the music does not have a dog. The person that comes by to check ID's laughs and joins in on the fun of music - MUSIC - folks! Not POLKA music all kinds of music which supplies much happiness in life. You are misrepresenting this situation - Please go somewhere else on those afternoons and don't try and ruin it for others that enjoy this!

The above statement is ABSOLUTELY correct. Don’t know the version depicted by the original complainant.

Stu from NYC 05-29-2022 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2100394)
I go to the Ashland pool and the music starts at 2:30 - 3:00 on Wednesdays and Sundays. It starts out at a pretty low volume and as people begin to leave about 4:30 or so the volume increases a bit. People dance in the pool and overall it's a fun afternoon. I have never seen a dog barking there and that should stop but it has nothing to do with the man who brings the music. Have never heard polka music played. If you don't like it on those days jump in your golf cart and go to Bonnybrook 3 blocks away or the Lynnhaven, and Churchill pools also very close. Don't complain about something many people enjoy on those 2 afternoons for a couple of hours! Go early or someplace else and sit in silence on Wednesday and Sunday. After reading all the posts the people responding are not getting a clear picture - no one is rowdy, it's not kids doing this and it's not a boom box. It's an older gentleman, a nice guy, and the people are seniors not rowdy younger ones. The dog should go if it's barking at people and I can't imagine whose dog that is as the gentleman that plays the music does not have a dog. The person that comes by to check ID's laughs and joins in on the fun of music - MUSIC - folks! Not POLKA music all kinds of music which supplies much happiness in life. You are misrepresenting this situation - Please go somewhere else on those afternoons and don't try and ruin it for others that enjoy this!

The pools are for all of us and people should not be fostering their taste of music on others.

Chi-Town 05-29-2022 08:52 AM

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njbchbum 05-29-2022 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2100394)
I go to the Ashland pool and the music starts at 2:30 - 3:00 on Wednesdays and Sundays. It starts out at a pretty low volume and as people begin to leave about 4:30 or so the volume increases a bit. People dance in the pool and overall it's a fun afternoon. I have never seen a dog barking there and that should stop but it has nothing to do with the man who brings the music. Have never heard polka music played. If you don't like it on those days jump in your golf cart and go to Bonnybrook 3 blocks away or the Lynnhaven, and Churchill pools also very close. Don't complain about something many people enjoy on those 2 afternoons for a couple of hours! Go early or someplace else and sit in silence on Wednesday and Sunday. After reading all the posts the people responding are not getting a clear picture - no one is rowdy, it's not kids doing this and it's not a boom box. It's an older gentleman, a nice guy, and the people are seniors not rowdy younger ones. The dog should go if it's barking at people and I can't imagine whose dog that is as the gentleman that plays the music does not have a dog. The person that comes by to check ID's laughs and joins in on the fun of music - MUSIC - folks! Not POLKA music all kinds of music which supplies much happiness in life. You are misrepresenting this situation - Please go somewhere else on those afternoons and don't try and ruin it for others that enjoy this!

Well, that counters the music and the dog - but - is the beer in glass bottles?

meme5x 05-29-2022 09:08 AM

What a horrible shame! People can be so inconsiderate..would even call police..,

Sherry8bal 05-29-2022 09:27 AM

I totally agree, I would call the police. To confront people who are drinking and with an "unfriendly dog" would be stupid. Call the police. They are disturbing the police and creating a dangerous situation.

sallyg 05-29-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2100394)
I go to the Ashland pool and the music starts at 2:30 - 3:00 on Wednesdays and Sundays. It starts out at a pretty low volume and as people begin to leave about 4:30 or so the volume increases a bit. People dance in the pool and overall it's a fun afternoon. I have never seen a dog barking there and that should stop but it has nothing to do with the man who brings the music. Have never heard polka music played. If you don't like it on those days jump in your golf cart and go to Bonnybrook 3 blocks away or the Lynnhaven, and Churchill pools also very close. Don't complain about something many people enjoy on those 2 afternoons for a couple of hours! Go early or someplace else and sit in silence on Wednesday and Sunday. After reading all the posts the people responding are not getting a clear picture - no one is rowdy, it's not kids doing this and it's not a boom box. It's an older gentleman, a nice guy, and the people are seniors not rowdy younger ones. The dog should go if it's barking at people and I can't imagine whose dog that is as the gentleman that plays the music does not have a dog. The person that comes by to check ID's laughs and joins in on the fun of music - MUSIC - folks! Not POLKA music all kinds of music which supplies much happiness in life. You are misrepresenting this situation - Please go somewhere else on those afternoons and don't try and ruin it for others that enjoy this!

You absolutely should NOT have to leave your neighborhood pool because of others bad behavior. Glass bottles?! Contact the recreation department manager in person. If it is a regularly scheduled gathering, the rec department can easily send someone to witness the behavior and then take appropriate action. However, keep in mind the Villages has a habit of non-enforcement. Best of luck.

BigSteph 05-29-2022 09:48 AM

Whether the original story is embellished or not, what is most striking is that in a retirement community you have to deal with the same a-holes that you did back in the day in your original state of residence.

These same people made it to retirement, loaded up the van, and moved to The Villages. Some of us thought we had bought away and out of the clown show.

We had an incident last night in our village where a couple returned home around 10 pm with friends arriving in another golf cart and they decided to turn their pool speakers up to 11 and party until 1 am.

These aren't 30 year-olds, they are probably late 60's. For some reason, some people think they are above rules and decency.

Some people are a-holes in their youth, middle-age, and golden years.

Stu from NYC 05-29-2022 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSteph (Post 2100498)
Whether the original story is embellished or not, what is most striking is that in a retirement community you have to deal with the same a-holes that you did back in the day in your original state of residence.

These same people made it to retirement, loaded up the van, and moved to The Villages. Some of us thought we had bought away and out of the clown show.

We had an incident last night in our village where a couple returned home around 10 pm with friends arriving in another golf cart and they decided to turn their pool speakers up to 11 and party until 1 am.

These aren't 30 year-olds, they are probably late 60's. For some reason, some people think they are above rules and decency.

Some people are a-holes in their youth, middle-age, and golden years.

Do they not understand that others go to bed early?

sallyg 05-29-2022 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherry8bal (Post 2100492)
I totally agree, I would call the police. To confront people who are drinking and with an "unfriendly dog" would be stupid. Call the police. They are disturbing the police and creating a dangerous situation.

Best idea!

justjim 05-29-2022 10:21 AM

Read first post for op’s version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MALANIER (Post 2100476)
The above statement is ABSOLUTELY correct. Don’t know the version depicted by the original complainant.

Read OP’s post. #1

cbmerl 05-29-2022 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2100394)
I go to the Ashland pool and the music starts at 2:30 - 3:00 on Wednesdays and Sundays. It starts out at a pretty low volume and as people begin to leave about 4:30 or so the volume increases a bit. People dance in the pool and overall it's a fun afternoon. I have never seen a dog barking there and that should stop but it has nothing to do with the man who brings the music. Have never heard polka music played. If you don't like it on those days jump in your golf cart and go to Bonnybrook 3 blocks away or the Lynnhaven, and Churchill pools also very close. Don't complain about something many people enjoy on those 2 afternoons for a couple of hours! Go early or someplace else and sit in silence on Wednesday and Sunday. After reading all the posts the people responding are not getting a clear picture - no one is rowdy, it's not kids doing this and it's not a boom box. It's an older gentleman, a nice guy, and the people are seniors not rowdy younger ones. The dog should go if it's barking at people and I can't imagine whose dog that is as the gentleman that plays the music does not have a dog. The person that comes by to check ID's laughs and joins in on the fun of music - MUSIC - folks! Not POLKA music all kinds of music which supplies much happiness in life. You are misrepresenting this situation - Please go somewhere else on those afternoons and don't try and ruin it for others that enjoy this!

Amazing what another person's viewpoint reveals, huh?:boom:

DaleDivine 05-29-2022 11:14 AM

:popcorn::popcorn:


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