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MorTech 06-12-2022 03:38 PM

Bitcoin Explained in plain english
 
precisely...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpJ7xIQZ34k

Why the parasites don't like Bitcoin.

DylanTodd 06-12-2022 07:58 PM

To further support the video the OP put up, watch this one from the 10 min mark to learn just how much bitcoin you need to carry as your hedge against inflation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfGc...9FWVJfPuGr-E-4

MorTech, are you already part of our Villages Crypto Club? If not reach out to me at dylanwaynetodd@gmail.com.

Cheers,

Dylan

manaboutown 06-12-2022 08:09 PM

The Emperor's New Clothes. Hans Christian Andersen : The Emperor's New Clothes

retiredguy123 06-13-2022 05:25 AM

I have never bought any bitcoins, and this thread has not changed my mind about them.

Caymus 06-13-2022 05:26 AM

Bitcoin had a bad weekend. Down to 24,000 today

MorTech 06-13-2022 05:48 AM

I am not a joiner :)

Trying to discuss "What is Money" with people is like trying to discuss with a 5 year old why cookies are bad for you.

I predict the Russian Ruble will be 1:1 with the USD within 2 years :)

Pballer 06-13-2022 06:32 AM

Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme. Too volatile to serve as a medium of exchange or store of value. A solution in search of problem that wastes enormous amounts of electricity to solve mathematical puzzles. Will eventually settle at its intrinsic value - 0.

tophcfa 06-13-2022 08:49 AM

If that’s plain English then I need to brush up on my English skills.

Worldseries27 06-14-2022 04:49 AM

Eddy, no rasputin lives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mortech (Post 2105648)
i am not a joiner :)

trying to discuss "what is money" with people is like trying to discuss with a 5 year old why cookies are bad for you.

I predict the russian ruble will be 1:1 with the usd within 2 years :)

look in the ball. I need the dates

Worldseries27 06-14-2022 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylantodd (Post 2105592)
to further support the video the op put up, watch this one from the 10 min mark to learn just how much bitcoin you need to carry as your hedge against inflation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfgc...9fwvjfpugr-e-4

mortech, are you already part of our villages crypto club? If not reach out to me at dylanwaynetodd@gmail.com.

Cheers,

dylan

wheres the chapter on world domination

jdulej 06-14-2022 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DylanTodd (Post 2105592)
To further support the video the OP put up, watch this one from the 10 min mark to learn just how much bitcoin you need to carry as your hedge against inflation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfGc...9FWVJfPuGr-E-4

MorTech, are you already part of our Villages Crypto Club? If not reach out to me at dylanwaynetodd@gmail.com.

Cheers,

Dylan

How's that hedge working out right now?

toeser 06-14-2022 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2105546)
precisely...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpJ7xIQZ34k

Why the parasites don't like Bitcoin.

Very interesting talk and concepts. I understand what he's saying, but I guess I'm old fashioned enough to prefer owning something with intrinsic value of some kind.

kbace6 06-14-2022 08:19 AM

Financial Sovereignty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DylanTodd (Post 2105592)
To further support the video the OP put up, watch this one from the 10 min mark to learn just how much bitcoin you need to carry as your hedge against inflation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfGc...9FWVJfPuGr-E-4

MorTech, are you already part of our Villages Crypto Club? If not reach out to me at dylanwaynetodd@gmail.com.

Cheers,

Dylan

Bitcoin can be explained in 2 words. "Financial Sovereignty" It is really no more complicated than that.

kbace6 06-14-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2105636)
Bitcoin had a bad weekend. Down to 24,000 today

Ultimately I expect it to go down to near $3,850 sometime early next year which was the COVID low before all the money printing accelerated everything. After that, it will take about a year or so to get back to its ATH again.

I do think it is a near certainty that it goes below $10k. But I do expect it will go down below $5k.

Fastskiguy 06-14-2022 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbace6 (Post 2106042)
Ultimately I expect it to go down to near $3,850 sometime early next year which was the COVID low before all the money printing accelerated everything. After that, it will take about a year or so to get back to its ATH again.

I do think it is a near certainty that it goes below $10k. But I do expect it will go down below $5k.

That is a bold call, it'll be interesting to see if it happens. I might just save up some $$ and start buying if it falls below $10K or so.

Joe

Babubhat 06-14-2022 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2105546)
precisely...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpJ7xIQZ34k

Why the parasites don't like Bitcoin.

It is not an inflation hedge, should be 100k now if so. It is a risk on Asset that you need a bigger fool to buy if it isn’t stolen from you. Plain old gambling. Bet what you can afford.

DAVES 06-14-2022 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2105546)
precisely...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpJ7xIQZ34k

Why the parasites don't like Bitcoin.

My view. When, you post stuff like,"Why parasites don't like bitcoin," do expect a positive effect? I do not own bitcoin but have no choice but to be aware of it.

It is interesting that it has spread this far. It's "value," is compared to the dollar. The dollar is no longer backed by gold and silver, Nixon as well as opening trade with China, did that. The dollar is backed by the full faith and credit of the United States.
I think most would think that is of depreciating value.

Bitcoin is backed by NOTHING. Even who or what created it is unknown. HUH? You can buy fake real estate and even non-existent yachts in the non-existent world called the metaverse.

A better currency? Bitcoin regularly swings 6% plus on a day. Our stock market is down, if I recall 14% from it's peak. Our dollar has lost CPI 8.7%. Bitcoin has lost half it's ?? Value.

It is so much like the Ponzi scheme of 300 years ago on tulip bulbs.

Fastskiguy 06-14-2022 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbace6 (Post 2106042)

It is interesting that it has spread this far. It's "value," is compared to the dollar. The dollar is no longer backed by gold and silver, Nixon as well as opening trade with China, did that. The dollar is backed by the full faith and credit of the United States.
I think most would think that is of depreciating value.

Bitcoin is backed by NOTHING. Even who or what created it is unknown. HUH? You can buy fake real estate and even non-existent yachts in the non-existent world called the metaverse.

A better currency? Bitcoin regularly swings 6% plus on a day. Our stock market is down, if I recall 14% from it's peak. Our dollar has lost CPI 8.7%. Bitcoin has lost half it's ?? Value.

It is so much like the Ponzi scheme of 300 years ago on tulip bulbs.

I think you've just said it yourself, the dollar is of depreciating value. There are 1/3rd more dollars now vs. just 3 years ago. It's true bitcoin is volatile....but it's a measure of value that governments can't jack with. They can't just print more bitcoin. If you dislike government shenanigans with money then bitcoin starts to look pretty appealing.

As far as non existent yachts in a non existent world...well I'd use the coca cola logo as an example. It's red ink on white paper, nothing more, but it's obviously worth a lot of money so maybe it's the same for these new types of "things"?

Joe

MorTech 06-15-2022 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbace6 (Post 2106033)
Bitcoin can be explained in 2 words. "Financial Sovereignty" It is really no more complicated than that.

It is the only property that you can actually own...No Counterparty, limited to 21M Bitcoins, and cannot be stolen from you by parasites like muggers, voters, and their politicians. It is highly volatile in terms of fiat currency so you need good speculation skills. It would be nice if people actually watched/understood the video before commenting. It does require conceptual thinking ability. He is a MIT scientist.

MorTech 06-15-2022 05:04 AM

With the "You will own nothing and you will be happy" parasites infesting the entire world, you would be a fool not to own Bitcoin.

tophcfa 06-15-2022 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2106257)
It does require conceptual thinking ability. He is a MIT scientist.

MIT scientist? I worked with a bunch of actuaries who were considered mathematical superstars and could pass all kinds of difficult tests. The other side of the coin was that they wore loafers because they couldn’t figure out how to tie their shoes. Sometimes book smarts and street smart’s don’t necessarily intersect.

tophcfa 06-15-2022 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbace6 (Post 2106033)
Bitcoin can be explained in 2 words. "Financial Sovereignty" It is really no more complicated than that.

Explained in four words and one statistic, “ down 54% year to date”.

ElDiabloJoe 06-15-2022 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2106406)
MIT scientist? ... Sometimes book smarts and street smart’s don’t necessarily intersect.

Sometimes? I think Most times is more accurate, in my experience.

Fastskiguy 06-15-2022 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2106475)
Explained in four words and one statistic, “ down 54% year to date”.

I think the big question is…..will Bitcoin go up or down vs the dlollar over the next 10 years? Inflation is really a thing these days for dollars but volatility is a thing for Bitcoin.

Joe

manaboutown 06-15-2022 12:02 PM

What Bill Gates recently said:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Fastskiguy 06-15-2022 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2106512)
What Bill Gates recently said:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

He poo poos crypto along with nfts and claims they don’t solve a problem. Which kinda means he doesn’t appreciate how crypto allows everyone to “hold the ledger” instead of only a chosen few.

Joe

valuemkt 06-15-2022 01:17 PM

PARASITES ??
Have a read at history, as those that don;t understand history are doomed to repeat it.
Dutch Tulip Bulb Market Bubble Definition

DAVES 06-15-2022 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2106249)
I think you've just said it yourself, the dollar is of depreciating value. There are 1/3rd more dollars now vs. just 3 years ago. It's true bitcoin is volatile....but it's a measure of value that governments can't jack with. They can't just print more bitcoin. If you dislike government shenanigans with money then bitcoin starts to look pretty appealing.

As far as non existent yachts in a non existent world...well I'd use the coca cola logo as an example. It's red ink on white paper, nothing more, but it's obviously worth a lot of money so maybe it's the same for these new types of "things"?

Joe

I must be old fashioned I see no relationship between bit coin and the value of the COKE logo.

In terms of an investment, I own K as stated I do not own bitcoin and have no faith in it.
Buying something where it is unknown who created it. Faith that it can't be reproduced? Actual bitcoins, there are tons of fakes around. As stated, compared, the tulip bulb Ponzi Scheme some made a lot of money due to wild swings. Bitcoin offers that. Right now the swing is DOWN and that seems to be the momentum. Will it change? Will it recover to the price you paid? I do not know. I truly wish you well.
I'm not in it. I've given my reasons.

A store of value? All kinds of thing have been used as money. A buck was a a buck, a deerskin. A shot of whiskey was because you could trade a bullet for it. Bitcoin the value changes every second, you need a WORKING computer and a broker to turn it into coin of the realm.

In terms of investing, bitcoin is not the only thing I am not buying.

MorTech 06-16-2022 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2106524)
He poo poos crypto along with nfts and claims they don’t solve a problem. Which kinda means he doesn’t appreciate how crypto allows everyone to “hold the ledger” instead of only a chosen few.

Joe

The parasites hate Bitcoin because they want to "hold the ledger" so they can continue to own us all. Control the oil you control the nation. Control the food you control the people. Control the money you own everything and everyone. Imagine if you could "legally" type whatever number you wanted into your own bank account. You could literally steal everything from everyone. That's what they do. They call this theft "Central Banking".

Bitcoin: No Counterparty...It is not a security...It is property.

Try and follow this :) In terms of physical reality, aka, energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXix6OIU1hw

LOL!

Fastskiguy 06-17-2022 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2106572)
I must be old fashioned I see no relationship between bit coin and the value of the COKE logo.

In terms of an investment, I own K as stated I do not own bitcoin and have no faith in it.
Buying something where it is unknown who created it. Faith that it can't be reproduced? Actual bitcoins, there are tons of fakes around. As stated, compared, the tulip bulb Ponzi Scheme some made a lot of money due to wild swings. Bitcoin offers that. Right now the swing is DOWN and that seems to be the momentum. Will it change? Will it recover to the price you paid? I do not know. I truly wish you well.
I'm not in it. I've given my reasons.

A store of value? All kinds of thing have been used as money. A buck was a a buck, a deerskin. A shot of whiskey was because you could trade a bullet for it. Bitcoin the value changes every second, you need a WORKING computer and a broker to turn it into coin of the realm.

In terms of investing, bitcoin is not the only thing I am not buying.

Can’t argue about volatility but this pullback isn’t as big as 17-18 was. And you do need a computer but a certain amount of infrastructure is needed for most anything these days. I’m not aware of any fake Bitcoin out there… that’s one of the best things about it.

Will it go the way of the pet rock or the the way of the internet?

Joe

tophcfa 06-17-2022 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2107529)

Will it go the way of the pet rock or the the way of the internet?

Or the way of Enron?

Fastskiguy 06-17-2022 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2107580)
Or the way of Enron?

Ha! I don’t think so but there is a nonzero chance that it could happen!

Joe

CoachKandSportsguy 07-05-2022 07:02 AM

LOL! I love listening to cult BS. There are so many right now, as thieves / crooks / get rich quick schemes / sociopaths / etc love the game. NFT were just another game created by the believers. The funniest part is that thieves steal each others' thieve's currency, which makes the whole implementation fraudulent.

block chain tries to solve the byzantine general game theory problem, Byzantine fault - Wikipedia and its the best solution so far. However, that doesn't make it economically viable on a mass scale as an asset class nor a money as a store of value for trading for goods and services.

the cult dudes don't even know when they are in the cult, and after some people come out, they can't believe how brain washed they were. . . . time to read up on abnormal psychology and behavioral finance to understand the intersection of money mania periods.

good luck to the cult. . . and yes, I have studied economic history in grad school, and have traded / invested / speculated over 40 years, so i have some experience in reality. . even the great Jesse Livermore died broke, but his great granddaughter is a beautiful porn star!

CoachKandSportsguy 07-05-2022 01:38 PM

Its kind of like this video. . .

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_t...jpg&name=small

herding in human behavior. . .

LOL!

Fastskiguy 07-05-2022 08:00 PM

And when the automobile was introduced people just wanted faster horses. You never really know until you have the benefit of hindsight.

Joe

CoachKandSportsguy 07-06-2022 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2113128)
And when the automobile was introduced people just wanted faster horses. You never really know until you have the benefit of hindsight.

Joe

maybe, or maybe one has enough experience in the game to realize a fraud when one sees one. . . there are lots of ideas which fail which if you seen them , you get the idea that its a solution looking for a personal problem.

MorTech 07-06-2022 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2112878)
LOL! I love listening to cult BS. There are so many right now, as thieves / crooks / get rich quick schemes / sociopaths / etc love the game. NFT were just another game created by the believers. The funniest part is that thieves steal each others' thieve's currency, which makes the whole implementation fraudulent.

block chain tries to solve the byzantine general game theory problem, Byzantine fault - Wikipedia and its the best solution so far. However, that doesn't make it economically viable on a mass scale as an asset class nor a money as a store of value for trading for goods and services.

the cult dudes don't even know when they are in the cult, and after some people come out, they can't believe how brain washed they were. . . . time to read up on abnormal psychology and behavioral finance to understand the intersection of money mania periods.

good luck to the cult. . . and yes, I have studied economic history in grad school, and have traded / invested / speculated over 40 years, so i have some experience in reality. . even the great Jesse Livermore died broke, but his great granddaughter is a beautiful porn star!

What solves the "economic problem" of every political currency on earth rapidly falling to zero value? I don't think you understand what a "cult" is...Bitcoin is digital property that is limited in quantity and can't be stolen from you by muggers and voters.

justjim 07-06-2022 07:04 PM

If Buffet (warren) buys Bitcoin I’m in. Until then I’m out.

CoachKandSportsguy 07-06-2022 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2113469)
What solves the "economic problem" of every political currency on earth rapidly falling to zero value? I don't think you understand what a "cult" is...Bitcoin is digital property that is limited in quantity and can't be stolen from you by muggers and voters.

LOL! keep repeating the cult BS so it becomes more true!

manaboutown 07-06-2022 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2113469)
What solves the "economic problem" of every political currency on earth rapidly falling to zero value? I don't think you understand what a "cult" is...Bitcoin is digital property that is limited in quantity and can't be stolen from you by muggers and voters.

Bitcoin is air pudding and walk about pie. lol


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