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PennBF 06-27-2022 07:42 AM

Respect for Police/Sheriff
 
I believe a good indication of the lack of respect for our Sheriff's Deputies and Office can be found just by riding the Golf Path that runs next to 466 between CVS and 441/27. Almost everyone knows there is a Sheriff's office at the intersection of 466 and Morse Bld. however the speed of vehicles on 466 makes it a good racetrack ignoring any Sheriff's station on the side. To a degree it is the same on the Golf Path. We were cut off in our Golf Cart on the path by a light blue "Smart Car" which was doing at least 30-35mph! If in fact there is a total disregard for traffic controls around a Sheriff's Office what makes anyone think anywhere else there is concern regarding speeding. :shrug:

Chellybean 06-27-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 2110624)
I believe a good indication of the lack of respect for our Sheriff's Deputies and Office can be found just by riding the Golf Path that runs next to 466 between CVS and 441/27. Almost everyone knows there is a Sheriff's office at the intersection of 466 and Morse Bld. however the speed of vehicles on 466 makes it a good racetrack ignoring any Sheriff's station on the side. To a degree it is the same on the Golf Path. We were cut off in our Golf Cart on the path by a light blue "Smart Car" which was doing at least 30-35mph! If in fact there is a total disregard for traffic controls around a Sheriff's Office what makes anyone think anywhere else there is concern regarding speeding. :shrug:

Welcome to the entitled villagers!

Topspinmo 06-27-2022 09:34 AM

Same on CR42 and B/V sheriffs sub office and the fly down CR42 and B/V. Hear rice rocket coming 4 miles away and 4 miles pass going at least 60 plus as he flying by mulberry every morning at 7:30 AM. Then there the VA employees that cutting through Publix parking lot going 30 plus. You would think in 8 years I been I would seen speed trap just once in Marion county? But Marion county one of biggest counties in Florida and I sure there bigger fish to fry other than around villages?

PennBF 06-27-2022 10:00 AM

Guessing Game
 
A Village guessing game. Why do you believe The Villages Sheriff's Office does not give out
many speeding tickets nor monitor speeding very much in the Villages? :ho:

golfing eagles 06-27-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 2110719)
A Village guessing game. Why do you believe The Villages Sheriff's Office does not give out
many speeding tickets nor monitor speeding very much in the Villages? :ho:

Flip side of the coin: I drive at the speed limit in the Villages. Why should I or anyone else care if someone is speeding? They pass, they go, they're gone. Not my problem. In fact, give me a 25 year old "speeding" any day over a 90 year old driving 20 in a 35 zone----they're far more dangerous

PugMom 06-27-2022 10:19 AM

just my opinion, but those smart cars have no place on the golf paths. the 1st time i saw it i almost called community watch until somebody said it was ok. if i had a cart, i'd hate to see those coming @ me on such a small pathway. looks like an accident waiting to happen

Michael G. 06-27-2022 10:46 AM

On the same note, the same can be said about Hwy's 441/27 Hwy 42 or Hwy 301 racetracks.

Not only the speed and dangerous driving, how about the exhaust-less noise on motorcycles that seems to be excepted by the general public.

Seriously, at my age, retired and far gone from my youth, I find a lot of things are out of my control, so enjoy your time that you have left.

ThirdOfFive 06-27-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2110735)
On the same note, the same can be said about Hwy's 441/27 Hwy 42 or Hwy 301 racetracks.

Not only the speed and dangerous driving, how about the exhaust-less noise on motorcycles that seems to be excepted by the general public.

Seriously, at my age, retired and far gone from my youth, I find a lot of things are out of my control, so enjoy your time that you have left.

Excellent sentiment. More people should take it to heart.

Topspinmo 06-27-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2110720)
Flip side of the coin: I drive at the speed limit in the Villages. Why should I or anyone else care if someone is speeding? They pass, they go, they're gone. Not my problem. In fact, give me a 25 year old "speeding" any day over a 90 year old driving 20 in a 35 zone----they're far more dangerous

Not too many 90 year olds driving, imo maybe 2 out of 1000. Yep, just what want to meet 25 year old or less coming at me texting.

Topspinmo 06-27-2022 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2110725)
just my opinion, but those smart cars have no place on the golf paths. the 1st time i saw it i almost called community watch until somebody said it was ok. if i had a cart, i'd hate to see those coming @ me on such a small pathway. looks like an accident waiting to happen


No license vehicle should be on MMP. But, these LSVs get pass cause of the entitled golfers.

golfing eagles 06-27-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2110776)
Not too many 90 year olds driving, imo maybe 2 out of 1000. Yep, just what want to meet 25 year old or less coming at me texting.

Have you looked at what's behind the wheel in Florida lately??????? Although, I'll admit since many of them can't see over the steering wheel, you won't be able to see them either. :1rotfl:

Number 10 GI 06-27-2022 02:36 PM

I've seen quite a number of drivers that hug the steering wheel with hands at 10 and 2 o'clock gripping it like it is going to get away from them. If they ever get into an accident and the airbag deploys, they will likely suffer serious injury or death with their upper torso so close to the steering wheel. That airbag deploys with significant force.
I can tell when following these drivers they have their foot on the brake pedal as brake light is on. This practice prematurely wears out the brake pads and rotors and the constant drag creates heat that degrades the efficiency of the brake system increasing the stopping distance. All this demonstrates their loss of vision acuity and reaction time.

Byte1 06-27-2022 02:38 PM

Don't worry, be happy!
There will always be fast and loud motor vehicles. There were those that ran their horses, including stage coaches that wanted to be on time. People that ride electric bikes that enjoy running them at top speed, and folks that like to job rather than walk. It's human nature; live with it. The only reason I have a tendency to get irritated when someone speeds by me is that I am doing the lawful limit and wish I could get away with driving faster also. I like driving fast, but I also hate to waste my money on tickets and higher insurance rates as a result. Too old to worry about someone that I don't even know.

MartinSE 06-27-2022 02:44 PM

It's not just here, it's everywhere all over the country. I don't see it as "disrespect" I see it as unsafe. But, then as much as I try to stay at or below the speed limit, sometimes it gets old having fists shaken at me as the speeders fly by. I guess, it seems that trying to go with the flow (same speed as most are going) is safest in the end.

Dr.Butler 06-27-2022 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2110786)
It's not just here, it's everywhere all over the country. I don't see it as "disrespect" I see it as unsafe. But, then as much as I try to stay at or below the speed limit, sometimes it gets old having fists shaken at me as the speeders fly by. I guess, it seems that trying to go with the flow (same speed as most are going) is safest in the end.

Agree. What does a person being unsafe have anything to do with respect?

coffeebean 06-27-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2110725)
just my opinion, but those smart cars have no place on the golf paths. the 1st time i saw it i almost called community watch until somebody said it was ok. if i had a cart, i'd hate to see those coming @ me on such a small pathway. looks like an accident waiting to happen

Smart Cars are allowed on The Villages multi modal paths? I did not know that.

golfing eagles 06-27-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2110795)
Smart Cars are allowed on The Villages multi modal paths? I did not know that.

and it's even more entertaining when 2 of them pass on the Lake Sumter bridge:gc:

EdFNJ 06-27-2022 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2110795)
Smart Cars are allowed on The Villages multi modal paths? I did not know that.

They are most definitely NOT.

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2110725)
just my opinion, but those smart cars have no place on the golf paths. the 1st time i saw it i almost called community watch until somebody said it was ok. if i had a cart, i'd hate to see those coming @ me on such a small pathway. looks like an accident waiting to happen

I think you may be confusing "Smart (brand) electric cars" with the LEGAL GOLF CARTS that look like Smart (brand) electric cars. There are "Smart" brand electric cars (made by Mercedes Benz) that are not allowed on any path, then there are the GOLF CARTS that CLOSELY RESEMBLE Smart(brand) electric cars and are required to follow all golf cart laws, rules & regs and are air conditioned and can legally go anywhere you go in your Yamamamahah. They even are often seen ON the golf courses. One is a LEGAL golf cart , the other a LICENSED VEHICLE that can go 80mph. The "golf cart" CAN be made street legal just like any other regular golf cart you see running down Morse or BV except this one has A/C, heat & wipers and power windows etc etc.. Most are NOT street legal and are no different than a golf cart and in fact are SMALLER than MANY golf carts. You shouldn't let them worry you unless you see a Smart (brand) electric Vehicle cruising down the MMP at 60MPH. Some newbies and snowbirds have accidentally ended up on the MMP's with real cars. We recently saw a Cadillac trying to get through the LSL tunnel.

ThirdOfFive 06-27-2022 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2110795)
Smart Cars are allowed on The Villages multi modal paths? I did not know that.

I'm not sure that they are.
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The original "Smart" Car, made by Mercedes, is no longer sold new in America and haven't been since 2019. But that car was designed as a road automobile. I see a few golf buggies that look a whole lot like a "Smart" car (and might be just as spendy) but aren't. They're golf cars in fancy clothing, notwithstanding that some of them have A/C, high-end sound system, etc. etc.

Eg_cruz 06-28-2022 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 2110624)
I believe a good indication of the lack of respect for our Sheriff's Deputies and Office can be found just by riding the Golf Path that runs next to 466 between CVS and 441/27. Almost everyone knows there is a Sheriff's office at the intersection of 466 and Morse Bld. however the speed of vehicles on 466 makes it a good racetrack ignoring any Sheriff's station on the side. To a degree it is the same on the Golf Path. We were cut off in our Golf Cart on the path by a light blue "Smart Car" which was doing at least 30-35mph! If in fact there is a total disregard for traffic controls around a Sheriff's Office what makes anyone think anywhere else there is concern regarding speeding. :shrug:

I drive 5 to 7 miles over on 466. It has nothing to do on whether or not I respect the sheriffs department (which I have nothing but respect for all law enforcement) it has to do with 466 should be 50 mile an hour zone not 45……just saying

Eg_cruz 06-28-2022 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2110735)
On the same note, the same can be said about Hwy's 441/27 Hwy 42 or Hwy 301 racetracks.

Not only the speed and dangerous driving, how about the exhaust-less noise on motorcycles that seems to be excepted by the general public.

Seriously, at my age, retired and far gone from my youth, I find a lot of things are out of my control, so enjoy your time that you have left.

The most dangerous road right now is 441 / 27 from Sam’s Club to 466. It is a hot mess. To many curves and weird lines.

FredJacobs 06-28-2022 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2110720)
Flip side of the coin: I drive at the speed limit in the Villages. Why should I or anyone else care if someone is speeding? They pass, they go, they're gone. Not my problem. In fact, give me a 25 year old "speeding" any day over a 90 year old driving 20 in a 35 zone----they're far more dangerous

When drivers pass me, doing 15 to 20 MPH over the limit, I say to myself, "Thanks, you're the one that they are waiting for and I can continue at my speed."

tsmall22204 06-28-2022 06:24 AM

Stop complaining and speed like everyone else. Cut someone off also. Whining

BlackHarley 06-28-2022 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2110720)
Flip side of the coin: I drive at the speed limit in the Villages. Why should I or anyone else care if someone is speeding? They pass, they go, they're gone. Not my problem. In fact, give me a 25 year old "speeding" any day over a 90 year old driving 20 in a 35 zone----they're far more dangerous

Don't ban high performance cars...just low performance drivers!

GOLFER54 06-28-2022 07:05 AM

If you drive the lawful speed limit and others do not, they and they alone will bear the consequences of a ticket or possible accident.

HospitalCoder 06-28-2022 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2110778)
No license vehicle should be on MMP. But, these LSVs get pass cause of the entitled golfers.

Actually, licensed golf carts are allowed on the MMP but should not exceed 20 mph when on the MMP.

Some people are calling the carts they see “smart cars” but they are actually Atomic golf carts and MUST use the MMP unless licensed. Once licensed, they can use the MMP at speeds not to exceed 20 mph. They may also drive on any road with posted speed limits not exceeding 35 mph.

Smart cars are automobiles and are not allowed on the MMP.

Joe C. 06-28-2022 07:10 AM

I FEEL THE NEED FOR SPEED !!!!!

Man has since the beginning of time, been involved in going quicker and faster. It's in our blood (most of us anyway). However, the quest for speed involves some degree of danger, that's why we have brakes, seat belts, turn signals and parachutes. The problem is that lots of people don't use their brakes (in a timely fashion), seat belts and turn signals. That's why there are accidents.

MartinSE 06-28-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GOLFER54 (Post 2110938)
If you drive the lawful speed limit and others do not, they and they alone will bear the consequences of a ticket or possible accident.

Well, you should have left off the "possible accident". Speeding is often related to multi-car crashes. So, other people are affected. The rest you got right.

MartinSE 06-28-2022 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HospitalCoder (Post 2110939)
Actually, licensed golf carts are allowed on the MMP but should not exceed 20 mph when on the MMP.

Some people are calling the carts they see “smart cars” but they are actually Atomic golf carts and MUST use the MMP unless licensed. Once licensed, they can use the MMP at speeds not to exceed 20 mph. They may also drive on any road with posted speed limits not exceeding 35 mph.

Smart cars are automobiles and are not allowed on the MMP.

Nice, simple, concise, none insulting and informative.

Thank you.

Geodyssey 06-28-2022 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2110720)
Flip side of the coin: I drive at the speed limit in the Villages. Why should I or anyone else care if someone is speeding?

There's the All-American attitude!

Nucky 06-28-2022 10:49 AM

Post #18 has pictures that will show you the similarities of a Smart Car and a Atomic looking Smart CART.

I’m pretty sure He’ll is Going to Freeze Over Today! Can’t believe we agree on something. It’s a miracle.

frose 06-29-2022 05:29 AM

there are no speed limits.. go whatever you want until you wreck, then the fun starts.

YeOldeCurmudgeon 06-29-2022 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2110720)
Flip side of the coin: I drive at the speed limit in the Villages. Why should I or anyone else care if someone is speeding? They pass, they go, they're gone. Not my problem. In fact, give me a 25 year old "speeding" any day over a 90 year old driving 20 in a 35 zone----they're far more dangerous

Pretty general statement that doesn't make much sense. How many 90 year-olds do you know who still drive? And when you talk speeding, how much over the speed limit are you talking? Very few people these days actually drive the speed limit or less, which is a much bigger problem and the cause of most of the accidents that occur.
Stop worrying about the 90 year-olds driving; if they do, they're just a nuisance, and not likely to cause an accident unless the people behind them are too impatient like most people are and the reason they speed which causes the accidents.

OhioBuckeye 06-29-2022 07:56 AM

Why all of a sudden are you beating up on TV law enforcement! What’s your point?

Rodneysblue 06-29-2022 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2110651)
Welcome to the entitled villagers!

The few trying to ruin it for the rest of us.

Luggage 06-29-2022 08:20 AM

you're retired - why speed ???
 
I dont get it ? getting to the cemetary faster ?

rsmurano 06-29-2022 08:24 AM

A lot of The drivers here in TV are pretty bad, in cars or golf carts. For cars, I see people take 5 or more seconds to start moving after a green light, going up to 10 mph slower than the speed limit, slow drivers in the left lane, and the worst drivers don’t know how to navigate the roundabouts.
In golf carts, going much slower than typical but when you try to pass, magically the golf cart goes much faster.
Why can’t drivers let people pass them who want to go the speed limit or maybe a little faster? If somebody gets on my tail and I’m going as fast as I can go in my golf cart, I’ll let them pass as soon as it’s safe and most of the time they will say thanks as they pass

LTCHSIEGEL 06-29-2022 09:47 AM

Hands need to be at 9 & 3 to avoid getting slapped in the face,
ltcherb

justjim 06-29-2022 10:12 AM

Police
 
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2110786)
It's not just here, it's everywhere all over the country. I don't see it as "disrespect" I see it as unsafe. But, then as much as I try to stay at or below the speed limit, sometimes it gets old having fists shaken at me as the speeders fly by. I guess, it seems that trying to go with the flow (same speed as most are going) is safest in the end.

Many off duty police in their own private cars often speed too. I’m talking 25-30miles and hour over the speed limit. If pulled over, they show their badge and get a pass. Trust me they were my friends and many moons ago we had a good working relationship. Comes with the job giving out those speeding tickets. :shrug:

joelfmi 06-29-2022 10:30 AM

That is why the community needs community free travel. Why is that not provided
 
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2110776)
Not too many 90 year olds driving, maybe 2 out of 1000. Yep, just what want to meet 25 year old or less coming at me texting.

. This a very negative selling point, they made no previsions for this important problem, when a senior or 75 years old or 90 years old purchase a home there, they forget senior retirees that don's drive needs to go shopping, doctor appointments, amenity center that cost a lot of money to take a cab. So, special if you are a nondriver looking there do you due diligence before you move there.


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