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Michael 61 07-31-2022 08:30 PM

How far does turnpike noise travel?
 
I’m returning for my second lifestyle visit in a few weeks, after just getting back from my first. Interested in a new build. Liked DeLuna, but not the homes right next to turnpike (too noisy). Those in the southern part of DeLuna seem to be far enough from turnpike noise. Looking to buy around October, and DeLuna may be sold out by then, which will put me looking at Richmond. Great location, but many lots close to turnpike. Question - I don’t mind a distant hum of noise, but how far away from turnpike should I be so I don’t hear much noise?

RICH1 07-31-2022 08:38 PM

That’s a great question, depending on the direction of the wind, the peak traffic times, truck traffic and the legal use of “Jake Brakes”, the widening with new interchange construction , must have a huge bearing on noise… The Marsh was the buffer zone but now it’s transformed into new neighborhoods

Stu from NYC 07-31-2022 08:55 PM

I would spend some time there at various times of the day and do this over a period of time.

Lots of places to live here

Altavia 07-31-2022 09:35 PM

Dissipates substantially if there are 3 or more homes between you and the noise source.

Few places in the Villages are free from traffic nose.
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Altavia 07-31-2022 09:35 PM

Dissipates substantially if thet are 3 or more homes between you and the noise source.

Purchasing a home with a view of the the Turnpike is a worse case situation.

Few places in the Villages are free from traffic nose.
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VApeople 07-31-2022 10:24 PM

Wait until they start selling homes or lots south of Monarch Grove. In my opinion, that will be a much better location.

Altavia 07-31-2022 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2121048)
Wait until they start selling homes or lots south of Monarch Grove. In my opinion, that will be a much better location.

Or given how fast prices increase, buy now and move later when your ideal lot comes available.

LAFwUs 07-31-2022 10:56 PM

We are approx 5 streets and a golf course section away, but parallel to the long open stretch of the TP. (can visually see it)
It is not very noticeable during the day (outside) when there are other sounds or traffic about, but evening & night time has a very drastic difference in the volume (Much worse).
It may not bother some, others it may bother a lot.
I cant imagine being any closer & having no sound buffer like it is now, which many of those home are!
Wifes theory is, more semi-trucks traveling at night and perhaps higher speeds contributing the the massive sound increase. Strongly suggest you go - at all times of day & night, prior to purchase.

It also doesn't help that TPTB decided to chop down every single living thing and flatten it all out, in most of the newer constructed villages in order to cram in even more homes.
The home tracts areas at the far end of Morse Blvd looks down right desolate, compared of other areas of the Villages. Its depressing.
Those trees, shrubs, hills, etc helped block noise, lower day time temps (shade/wind flow) brought in birds & wildlife and is just generally more visually appealing.

Toymeister 08-01-2022 06:10 AM

The noise can travel over 3/4 of a mile depending on cloud cover, wind, elevation and what sort of barriers are between the point that you are measuring the noise and the TP.

Golf courses and water have a huge impact on the noise.

Also, it depends how you define noise, is this a constant or intermittent? At 3/4 of a mile with a large open space for a barrier I perceive noise less than five percent of the time. Five percent being if the conditions are wrong I will hear the noise, not that I hear five percent of the noise.

GpaVader 08-01-2022 06:55 AM

Lots of this will also depend on how much time you actually spend outside or with your windows open. Our first home, we were 2 blocks from a RR switchyard and didn't think I'd ever get used to that. After a month or so, you never even notice it. We never had AC so the windows were always wide open and still never bothered me. You can get used to a lot. On the other hand if you spend a lot of time outside, I would not want to have a lot facing the TP.... Welcome and Good Luck!

ohioshooter 08-01-2022 07:17 AM

There are many lots/homes in DeLuna where noise is not an issue. Don’t know availability though.

pauld315 08-01-2022 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2121029)
I’m returning for my second lifestyle visit in a few weeks, after just getting back from my first. Interested in a new build. Liked DeLuna, but not the homes right next to turnpike (too noisy). Those in the southern part of DeLuna seem to be far enough from turnpike noise. Looking to buy around October, and DeLuna may be sold out by then, which will put me looking at Richmond. Great location, but many lots close to turnpike. Question - I don’t mind a distant hum of noise, but how far away from turnpike should I be so I don’t hear much noise?

I am not sure where these new Villages are but check to see where they are in relation to the rest area on the Turnpike. Trucks pull into there using downshifting to enter the rest area and that is very loud. I would never buy a house along the turnpike. Unlike people, the turnpike never sleeps and it just seems to get busier every passing day. I used to have a house 2 miles from I-75 and there were times I could hear that plain as day depending on the wind.

There are many areas in TV that are quiet if that is what you are looking for. The only Village I would recommend south of 44 is Fenney because it is furthest from the turnpike. North of 44 is where I would settle though to get away from the noise.

SIRE1 08-01-2022 07:25 AM

Also, be aware that sound will travel farther in colder air than in warm air. So if you judge the sound during a summer visit, it may be louder than you remember during the cool days/nights we have during the winter.

Bay Kid 08-01-2022 07:28 AM

Lots of choices of homes far away from the turnpike.

justjim 08-01-2022 08:05 AM

OP, Any lot or house south of 44, currently available, I would visit six or seven times and hear for myself. We live about halfway between 466A and 44. It’s very quite here but still close to everything. You will be surprised how far noise can travel but on the other hand you sort of get use to it. Several years ago, we purchased a home with a beautiful pool in Central Illinois that backed up to a busy parkway and at times the noise was so bad during peak daytime travel that we never got use to it. Where we lived, the speed limit was 55 miles an hour on the parkway but few traveled the speed limit. It was okay inside the house. The experience taught us a valuable lesson. We lived there two years and bought a new house in a quite neighborhood. Good luck with your retirement.

Tvflguy 08-01-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2121043)

Few places in the Villages are free from traffic nose.
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Really? C’mon.

We were golfing at Marshview yesterday about 11am. A few times easily heard semi trucks slowing with that long growl, probably going into okahumka rest stop.

DAVES 08-01-2022 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2121029)
I’m returning for my second lifestyle visit in a few weeks, after just getting back from my first. Interested in a new build. Liked DeLuna, but not the homes right next to turnpike (too noisy). Those in the southern part of DeLuna seem to be far enough from turnpike noise. Looking to buy around October, and DeLuna may be sold out by then, which will put me looking at Richmond. Great location, but many lots close to turnpike. Question - I don’t mind a distant hum of noise, but how far away from turnpike should I be so I don’t hear much noise?

As a kid we had the elevated subway just below my bedroom window. Training? Nothing keeps me up. You need to make your own decision. Surely there are charts for typical highway decibels as well as rate of sound fall off.

We do not have it-FORTUNATELY. A neighbor with a band, a neighbor who thinks everyone wants to hear his radio, a motorcycle, etc.

If, noise bothers you I would purchase block stucco construction and get double thick glass in your windows-not two pane glass, the glass is actually thicker.

Lottoguy 08-01-2022 08:48 AM

I think more of a concern then traffic noise is the distance you'll have to drive to do shopping, etc. That area will take years to get up to speed compared to the northern area.

Keefelane66 08-01-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2121029)
I’m returning for my second lifestyle visit in a few weeks, after just getting back from my first. Interested in a new build. Liked DeLuna, but not the homes right next to turnpike (too noisy). Those in the southern part of DeLuna seem to be far enough from turnpike noise. Looking to buy around October, and DeLuna may be sold out by then, which will put me looking at Richmond. Great location, but many lots close to turnpike. Question - I don’t mind a distant hum of noise, but how far away from turnpike should I be so I don’t hear much noise?

How does highway sound travel?

But because noise travels in waves, not straight lines, sounds can and do go over the walls. This is why even with barriers standing 16 feet, homes several blocks away can hear the highway. Part of the sound wave is absorbed, part is reflected away from the wall, and part is transmitted through, Berrios explained
Weather can bend highway noise — right to you
The right temperatures and wind conditions can bend highway noise like a prism bends light, thwarting roadside sound barriers and plopping sounds as loud as a vacuum cleaner into the yards of residents more than a quarter of a mile away.

gatorbill1 08-01-2022 09:46 AM

If all the people near the turnpike think it's too noisy they could go just a little east to Orlando.

Stu from NYC 08-01-2022 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 2121211)
If all the people near the turnpike think it's too noisy they could go just a little east to Orlando.

Or just find a home further from the noise

coffeebean 08-01-2022 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2121043)
Dissipates substantially if there are 3 or more homes between you and the noise source.

Few places in the Villages are free from traffic nose.
.

I do not have any constant hum of traffic noise at all and I'm located in Mallory Square. The Turnpike is far, far, far, far away from our home. This is a fantastic location and is two traffic circles away from Lake Sumter Landing Town Square.

Altavia 08-01-2022 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2121140)
We live about halfway between 466A and 44. It’s very quite here but still close to everything.

Depends, need to be careful everywhere.

I rented a villa in Pine Ridge that backed to 466A and the noise was unbearable during the day.

Especially the un-muffled billy bob pick up trucks drag racing from the stop light on their way to work at 5am...

You could not talk on the phone from there lanai.

Bogie Shooter 08-01-2022 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2121233)
Depends, need to be careful everywhere.

I rented a villa in Pine Ridge that backed to 466A and the noise was unbearable during the day.

Especially the un-muffled billy bob pick up trucks drag racing from the stop light on their way to work at 5am...

You could not talk on the phone from there lanai.

So, where is your Eden?

Kenswing 08-01-2022 10:47 AM

There are houses built along the side of freeways, highways and turnpikes all across this country. It’s amazing how big a deal it is here. Just figure out what your noise tolerance is and find a neighborhood that falls within it.

golfing eagles 08-01-2022 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2121237)
There are houses built along the side of freeways, highways and turnpikes all across this country. It’s amazing how big a deal it is here. Just figure out what your noise tolerance is and find a neighborhood that falls within it.

It might be a big deal there as well. I wouldn't know unless I joined the "Talk of the ________(fill in the blank)" forum.

Stu from NYC 08-01-2022 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2121237)
There are houses built along the side of freeways, highways and turnpikes all across this country. It’s amazing how big a deal it is here. Just figure out what your noise tolerance is and find a neighborhood that falls within it.

Amazing how many people buy here without investigating the noise factor

Toymeister 08-01-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2121140)
OP, Any lot or house south of 44, currently available

Obviously this is patently false. Fenney is over three miles from the turnpike. There is no TP noise in Fenney.

kkingston57 08-01-2022 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2121042)
I would spend some time there at various times of the day and do this over a period of time.

Lots of places to live here

Wind direction is the biggest factor. If wind blowing away from home, no problem.

bimmertl 08-01-2022 01:33 PM

There's a video on Youtube from a Villager who got a decibel meter and checked numerous locations in the Villages near the turnpike. Worth watching.

bimmertl 08-01-2022 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 2121314)
There's a video on Youtube from a Villager who got a decibel meter and checked numerous locations in the Villages near the turnpike. Worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u13pDK9-3eM&t=401s

Boston-Sean 08-01-2022 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2121303)
Wind direction is the biggest factor. If wind blowing away from home, no problem.

I rented a place in Citrus Grove about a mile from the TP last April. Noise was at the top of my list of things to investigate before I purchase a home. Pickle ball court noise as well as TP noise.

Wind direction is definitely a factor but what I found a mile from the TP was that the noise was not noticeable during the day. The master bedroom faced the TP and late at night I could usually hear the hum of the TP through closed windows. It was pretty faint though. Nothing that would keep me from sleeping. I made a point of checking the front bedroom and I couldn't hear the TP at all from there.

TP Noise would not keep me from purchasing in that location. Even with the proposed TP expansion.

My villages sales rep was aware that TP noise was a concern for me so he showed me a house that was really close to the TP so I could get an idea of what that noise level was. It was noisy. And visually a problem too. While standing outside I could see the tops of 18 wheelers going by over the fence at the end of the street. No way would I buy a house that close.

My impression of Pickle Ball noise was that while extremely annoying up close it didn't seem to carry very far.

RICH1 08-01-2022 06:38 PM

EGG CARTONS … very popular in the South Villages

TrapX 08-01-2022 10:07 PM

If you can see the turnpike, it will always be very loud.
If you can go 5 streets away from there, it will always still be loud.
If you can go a village away, you will still hear it. Wind speed and direction will make it as loud as being on the shoulder of the road, or not audible at all.
There are new villages south, further from turnpike, but with other issues to consider. Far away from shopping, or only one store of some types (such as grocery), and no big box stores. Far from golf cart access paths to amenities north of the turnpike. Far from doctor offices. Far from gas stations.
Good luck with your search.

Normal 08-02-2022 04:37 AM

Noise in the villages
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2121029)
I’m returning for my second lifestyle visit in a few weeks, after just getting back from my first. Interested in a new build. Liked DeLuna, but not the homes right next to turnpike (too noisy). Those in the southern part of DeLuna seem to be far enough from turnpike noise. Looking to buy around October, and DeLuna may be sold out by then, which will put me looking at Richmond. Great location, but many lots close to turnpike. Question - I don’t mind a distant hum of noise, but how far away from turnpike should I be so I don’t hear much noise?

There are significant natural, traffic issues or noise problems for most living anywhere in The Villages. You could have a home on Morris where cars zoom by day and night, or you could live directly on Buena Vista with the same issues. These roads run north to south through the old and the new, and visa versa. I suggest you locate an area you like and isolate or “pad” yourself from your largest concerns, whether it is golf balls, alligators or traffic hum. Then go from there for your dream home. Truly it’s a balancing act of what you want for location and daily amenities verses personal nuisances.

PS. Meggison could be like El Camino in the coming year. It is something you should consider for the newer areas.

skippy05 08-02-2022 04:53 AM

Do not be misinformed. I live in a neighborhood that is 1/4 mile from the turnpike. The noise travels at times and OFTEN, easily 1/4 mile out. At times you can not hear it whatsoever, at times it is medium, at times it is VERY loud. This changes even within hours of the same day. 3 houses buffer is a lie. You need to decide if the noise bothers YOU and if it does stay at least 1/4 mile away and even then at times you will hear it even inside your house.

Worldseries27 08-02-2022 05:22 AM

Hear ye, hear ye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michael 61 (Post 2121029)
i’m returning for my second lifestyle visit in a few weeks, after just getting back from my first. Interested in a new build. Liked deluna, but not the homes right next to turnpike (too noisy). Those in the southern part of deluna seem to be far enough from turnpike noise. Looking to buy around october, and deluna may be sold out by then, which will put me looking at richmond. Great location, but many lots close to turnpike. Question - i don’t mind a distant hum of noise, but how far away from turnpike should i be so i don’t hear much noise?

posters have given you great answers.
But
beware the pickleball monster.
Also in fifteen years or so when the new roofs are going up you
will awaken every morning to the machine gun hammers from dawn to dusk

Rwirish 08-02-2022 05:23 AM

The noise is not good in most of these areas. Way too close to the turnpike. Wait for development much further south of the turnpike.

MandoMan 08-02-2022 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2121029)
I’m returning for my second lifestyle visit in a few weeks, after just getting back from my first. Interested in a new build. Liked DeLuna, but not the homes right next to turnpike (too noisy). Those in the southern part of DeLuna seem to be far enough from turnpike noise. Looking to buy around October, and DeLuna may be sold out by then, which will put me looking at Richmond. Great location, but many lots close to turnpike. Question - I don’t mind a distant hum of noise, but how far away from turnpike should I be so I don’t hear much noise?

Purchase an inexpensive decibel meter app for your cell phone and measure road noise from various distances from a freeway near you. Maybe sit in a lawn chair with a friend during rush hour at its loudest and try to hold a quiet conversation. Measure the level at your house now, too. I live a block from 466 and a block from Morse, but there are a dozen houses and lots of trees between me and them, and I’m usually in the house with the windows closed. Even outside, a quiet conversation isn’t a problem. But do your homework!

Every block between you and the freeway helps. Every house between you and the freeway blocks some noise. If you plan to sit out on a patio, make sure your house is between the patio and the freeway. And understand that you will still hear it, always. What matters is if you find it bearable.

westernrider75 08-02-2022 05:53 AM

While we live in Monarch Grove not DeLuna, some homes are closer than others. We are not that close but the noise varies from non at all, to background noise, and in the rare occasion slightly louder. I believe it depends on weather and of course the amount of traffic. That being said, it does not bother us at all. Where we lived in Ohio we were very close to I90 which was wayyyy louder, but didn’t bother us either. To each their own, some people want complete silence, others the background noise is just white noise.


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