Snowbirds Need Wealth
 

Do you feel snowbirds are wealthier than the people that live in TV year around?

They would need:

2 homes.
2 wardrobes at each house.
2 cars.
2 tax bills.
2 heating/cooling bills.
2 yard maintenance contracts.
2 doctors/dentist etc.
And someone to check on each house for 6 months.

We in TV thank you for sharing your wealth. :wave:

Not sure about more wealth, but they are certainly strapped with more responsibilities, and not just the responsibilities involved with owning and maintaining two homes. Many don’t want to own two homes, but are forced to because of unavoidable responsibilities that require them to continue to spend significant time outside of Florida. My best advise for anyone retiring is to dump any and all possible responsibilities and avoid taking on new ones like the plague. We spent our whole adult lives dealing with responsibilities, retirement is our limited remaining time to do whatever we want, whenever we f’in please : )

Not that I care, but the OP didn't mention their carbon footprint.

You can almost set your watch by when the inane snowbird threads will start every year.

A lot of snowbirds are renters.

Some of us maintain more than 2 homes. Our home in TV, our home that our parents use in TV, (because they won’t give up their residence) our home up north, and the lake house, that has been in our family over 150 years.

We enjoy life no matter which home we reside in and don’t find a burden with any of our choices. Clothes we keep up north, we wouldn’t use here, as is the 4x4’s to get around.

Taxes are just a way of life. Don’t think we are any wealthier than anyone else, maybe just younger, or planned with a good financial guy. We love change of seasons, including occasional snow for skiing,:cold: and a lake you can swim in, without gators:22yikes:

We have been renting 3-4 months in high season for over 20 years.
Prices since our last stay in 2019/20 just before Covid restrictions, have more than doubled, and in the case of car rental quadrupled!
We have passed on staying this winter, and in all probabilities seen our last winter in Florida.
Shame, but not paying that sort of outlay, and that's before you stick air fair, food, golf, entertainment etc. on the bill.

Some of us have worked hard, lived prudently and invested wisely and own and spend time in three or even four homes. Some also own rental homes and/or other investment real estate.

No idea but annual expenses will be higher

Yes, there are times when you have to say enough is enough on prices.
Also, as we get up in years, we don't look forward to the commute back and forth.

Best of luck for you wherever you are.
Fred🙏

Capitalism incentivizes people and businesses to maximize the amount of money they earn. Does it bother you ? The only person's wealth I am concerned with is yours truly.

I really can't comment as I bottomed out socio-economically a couple of years back when a man wearing bib overalls and carrying a fly swatter refused me admission to a restaurant because I had no reservation.

I recall a zit faced kid selling discount tickets to some newly opened restaurant. He pulls up in a new lexus. When I told him we were not interested he mumbled something like you people don't eat out anyway. I laughed. My car was paid for, my mortgage was paid in full.
His dads restaurant I could buy it for CASH.

There is zero gain in counting other people's money and or bills.

Endless debate re: carbon foot print. I can honestly SCREAM my carbon foot print is vastly reduced from what it was. Truth, I am retired. Truth I no longer produce anything.

Far as what was the GLOBAL WARMING PANIC, has evolved SPUN into CLIMATE CHANGE.
Climate has always and will always change. Interesting is the FACT that 40 years or so ago the concern was global cooling. Lacking was Al Gore to line his pockets, have a huge carbon foot print while telling us we should.........

My two favorite aspects of the "climate change" scam are:

a) Leonardo Dicaprio, U.N. global ambassador for climate change, flying to conferences in a private jet. This was in addition to the time he borrowed a Saudi prince's yacht and sailed it from the Mediterranean to Brazil using something like 6,500 gallons of diesel fuel.

b) All the politicians and Hollyweird stars that are telling you to hide under your bed from the climate change boogie man and how you are going to drown in rising ocean waters are busy building multi-million dollar homes on the beach.

But back on topic----at one point I owned 5 properties, now I have only 1, and I'm much happier.

Thanks for being so concerned for us. Sorry you can’t leave.

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It seems very hypocritical to tell people to spend $65K on an electric vehicle, spend trillions of tax dollars on an infrastructure of charging stations, but, apparently, it is fine to have 2 or 3 vacant houses being heated and cooled with fossil fuels.

The home prices here years ago were pocket change compared to the Northeast. Turned out well

It is the old do as I say not as I do thing

Well he is so important to the world that we must all make sacrifices so he can live in the comfort he think he deserves. He does have a huge ego

For those able to purchase a $65,000 electric vehicle and own 2-3 vacation homes probably don't live in The Villages. I'm happy for their success.

There are 5 snowbird houses on my street that have been vacant for 6 months. The heat pumps run every day, the sprinker systems come on, and the landscapers come to mow the lawns. My point is that a few electric vehicles wouldn't come close to offsetting the amount of fossil fuels being burned for those houses that aren't even being used. Why such a strong focus on electric vehicles?

Wow this thread went south fast, those who seem angry some have more than one house, those who want electric cars, but not pay for infrastructure, and those who have, are just happy with their own life, and could give a crap how you live yours

My opinion, if you want an electric vehicle - you should get one. I think you should only be allowed to charge it via solar panels and/or a windmill attached to your garage. No plugging into the electrical grid. That way, you won't be a hypocrite.

Another worthless thread, causing more trouble than good.

Because if the people who have multiple homes are forced to buy electric vehicles, they will have to sell all of their homes except for one since their vehicle will no longer have the range to travel between their homes.

I pray I'll be dead when electric cars become mainstream and at my current age it's very possible.

There are many but don't forget Steven Spielberg and his jet. This is a quote from the NY Post:

A private jet belonging to Steven Spielberg has burned more than $116,000 worth of jet fuel since June despite the famous Hollywood director’s past warnings about global warming, according to a flight tracking database. These elites are full of that stuff we flush down the toilet each day.

Different strokes for different folks. If you have the cash, live where you want and avoid the humidity. Oops spoke to fast. It is now 90+ degrees in Western Canada

At some point will have conveniently located very fast charging systems to enable people to do this. That is except for California where they want you to purchase an electric car but do not want you to use it.

When fast charging systems come about might consider an electric car but doubt I will be around to see it.

It is expensive to have 2 homes to pay for, but avoiding Canadian winters is what I worked for my whole life. Worth every sacrifice and stressful career to have achieved it. BTW, owning a home in TV is much cheaper to run than renting. They say if you rent for more than 1 1/2 months, owning ends up cheaper.

California has completely run off the rails, and deservedly so. They do not have the electrical grid capacity to serve what is there now, and they want to mandate no fossil fuel vehicles by 2035. It is quite telling that they are now directing residents to refrain from charging electric vehicles in order to ease pressure on their grid.

Not too worried
 

Can’t say I, worried about my carbon footprint. Worried more about my expanding waistline. It does cost us more obviously, to have two houses. We give up a lot of the traveling that others do and the toys that others buy in order to keep out two homes. On the flip side, both are modest homes and we enjoy them both. As much as we love to get away from midwestern winter we also love to get away from Florida summers and, we enjoy having a home in the Midwest were out family is comfortable visiting while we’re here. I’ve lived in big cities before so snowbird season and the complaints of the traffic and crowds associated with snowbird season are laughable too me.

As long as people are willing to pay these outrageous prices to rent and buy price will continue to increase.
I would advise people to wait for prices to drop.

Who cares?

Why do you need two cars? Wouldn’t you drive the same one back and forth? Bills should be much lower at home you are not using. Also perhaps one rents home they aren’t using?

My wife and I agree sometimes on something. We did agree that owning 2 homes was double everything..In Minnesota lake country taxes were high but if you homestead it is better same as here in Florida. BUT you can only claim ONE!

Snowbird wealth
 

Amen!!!!!

Who cares?