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Hifred 10-28-2022 01:03 AM

Property Tax Question
 
My friend who lives in Marsh Bend and I (Village of Charlotte) were looking at our tax bills. We did a comparison of our Ad Valorem Taxes. Our first line was Sumter County, our next line was Sumter Co School Board, then hers had City of Wildwood (mine did not) and the next was SWFWMD. Our mileage and exemption is the same. However, she has $914.00 going to the City of Wildwood and I don't. So the Ad Valorem part of her tax bill is much higher despite our home values being similar. Do all of the homes south of 44 pay taxes to the City of Wildwood? Between 466A and 44 from Powell on the West to Morris on the East do all homes not have to pay tax to the City of Wildwood? What services do the homes that pay taxes to the City of Wildwood get that others in my section (466A - 44 and Powell Rd to Morris) not receive? I always thought that we were in Wildwood but on letters I give my address as The Villages but The Villages is not a city is it? Fruitland Park is in Lake County. So is the Village of Charlotte in a city other than being called The Villages?

retiredguy123 10-28-2022 03:27 AM

It's pretty simple. If your house is located within the city limits of either Wildwood or Fruitland Park, you pay a property tax to those cities. There is no separate ad valorem property tax owed to The Villages. Apparently, both you and your friend live in The Villages, but your friend's house is located in Wildwood and your house is not. Your friend could call the City of Wildwood and ask them if they provide any additional services for living in their city.

Rainger99 10-28-2022 04:12 AM

This is a map of Wildwood. I would love to know how the boundaries were drawn. It looks like a badly gerrymandered congressional district.


Wildwood, FL Profile: Map

Laker14 10-28-2022 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2151823)
This is a map of Wildwood. I would love to know how the boundaries were drawn. It looks like a badly gerrymandered congressional district.


Wildwood, FL Profile: Map

Wow. How in the world?

Bay Kid 10-28-2022 07:05 AM

Double tax.

Bilyclub 10-28-2022 07:37 AM

It appears that Wildwood went on an annexation binge and that certain properties like Continental refused to be annexed. The properties South of 44 were probably not owned by TV when Wildwood annexed them.

Rainger99 10-28-2022 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2151887)
It appears that Wildwood went on an annexation binge and that certain properties like Continental refused to be annexed. The properties South of 44 were probably not owned by TV when Wildwood annexed them.

That is correct.

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dewilson58 10-28-2022 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2151821)
It's pretty simple. If your house is located within the city limits of either Wildwood or Fruitland Park, you pay a property tax to those cities. There is no separate ad valorem property tax owed to The Villages. Apparently, both you and your friend live in The Villages, but your friend's house is located in Wildwood and your house is not. Your friend could call the City of Wildwood and ask them if they provide any additional services for living in their city.

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LuvtheVillages 10-28-2022 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hifred (Post 2151816)
? I always thought that we were in Wildwood but on letters I give my address as The Villages but The Villages is not a city is it? Fruitland Park is in Lake County. So is the Village of Charlotte in a city other than being called The Villages?

So the Village of Charlotte, and a number of other nearby Villages, are NOT in a city.

We are in unincorporated Sumter County.

Our police protection is provided by the Sheriff, not the Wildwood Police. I can’t think of any other differences.

Mrs.Guy 10-28-2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2151823)
This is a map of Wildwood. I would love to know how the boundaries were drawn. It looks like a badly gerrymandered congressional district.


Wildwood, FL Profile: Map

:laugh:Here's the map of Leesburg..... what conspiracy do you see with this one? :shrug:
Leesburg, FL Profile: Map

dewilson58 10-28-2022 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs.Guy (Post 2152055)
:laugh:Here's the map of Leesburg..... what conspiracy do you see with this one? :shrug:
Leesburg, FL Profile: Map

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Garywt 10-28-2022 09:48 PM

Definitely interesting boundaries especially where some parts are not even touching. I myself really don’t even look at my bill. My bank pays it and I see the total of it.

Rainger99 10-29-2022 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 2152041)
Our police protection is provided by the Sheriff, not the Wildwood Police. I can’t think of any other differences.

Other than police protection, does anyone know what else Wildwood residents get for the extra $914 a year they pay that people living outside of Wildwood don’t pay?

msilagy 10-29-2022 04:18 AM

Yes The Villages is a city! On the weather map everyday.

hillncea 10-29-2022 04:52 AM

The Villages is the 38th largest city in Florida according to this website: Florida Cities by Population

VillagerNut 10-29-2022 05:22 AM

Your home in the Village of Charlotte is strictly in Sumter County. All homes south the 44 are in the city of Wildwood. But they use The Villages as their city. Unfortunately most people don’t know they pay additional city tax until they receive their tax bill. No additional services compared to what you receive. The Villages is not a city that is incorporated in the United States. Technically the United States post office just recognizes The Villages as a city.

sdeikenberry 10-29-2022 05:27 AM

About 5 years ago Wildwood was a very small and poor town. Then TV decided to expand south of 44 and Wildwood saw the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. They started annexing farmland that would become part of TV, and their coffers grew so now they are a town with considerable tax revenue. Folks in TV who live north of 44 do not have this issue, and do not pay nearly $1,000 extra each year to a town, nor do almost all homes north of 466 have any bond to pay. it does matter where you live in TV.

HoosierPa 10-29-2022 06:19 AM

Wildwood never made an effort to annex Continental

Debfrommaine 10-29-2022 06:30 AM

Prior to buying in Marsh Bend, we researched and knew there would be the additional "city" tax, no surprise for us and worth the move.

mrf0151 10-29-2022 06:43 AM

So, all the homes in the very southern part of TV will be getting tax bills from the city of Leesburg too? OUCH!! Not to mention getting killed by a high bond. Why do it???

bakon 10-29-2022 07:03 AM

Why- only new houses available. Didn’t want a used one, wanted neighbors close to our age at retirement and the freshness of new pools, walls, ect….

retiredguy123 10-29-2022 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2152217)
So, all the homes in the very southern part of TV will be getting tax bills from the city of Leesburg too? OUCH!! Not to mention getting killed by a high bond. Why do it???

Living in Leesburg would be less expensive than Wildwood.

Leesburg tax rate: $1.774 per $1,000 of assessment
Wildwood tax rate: $3.25 per $1,000 of assessment

SusanStCatherine 10-29-2022 07:33 AM

Compare the water rates. Wildwood city pays up to four times more than northern villages.

GoneFishing 10-29-2022 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sdeikenberry (Post 2152191)
About 5 years ago Wildwood was a very small and poor town. Then TV decided to expand south of 44 and Wildwood saw the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. They started annexing farmland that would become part of TV, and their coffers grew so now they are a town with considerable tax revenue. Folks in TV who live north of 44 do not have this issue, and do not pay nearly $1,000 extra each year to a town, nor do almost all homes north of 466 have any bond to pay. it does matter where you live in TV.

Interesting that almost all homes North of 466 don’t have a bond. I’ll have to make sure my brother knows that since he’s paying for one where he lives north of 466.

SusanStCatherine 10-29-2022 07:37 AM

Not all new Villages south of 44 are in Sumter. Newell is in Lake County where the taxes are even higher. Heard from a salesperson that they may be charging less for houses there so they can sell them.

Dgodin 10-29-2022 07:39 AM

Lady lake
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2151821)
It's pretty simple. If your house is located within the city limits of either Wildwood or Fruitland Park, you pay a property tax to those cities. There is no separate ad valorem property tax owed to The Villages. Apparently, both you and your friend live in The Villages, but your friend's house is located in Wildwood and your house is not. Your friend could call the City of Wildwood and ask them if they provide any additional services for living in their city.

The same is true for resdents of the "historic" area. Some part of it has been annexed to the town of Lady Lake. The only difference I've seen so far is in who picks up the garbage. The annexed area is still part of the villages.

John Mayes 10-29-2022 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2152228)
Living in Leesburg would be less expensive than Wildwood.

Leesburg tax rate: $1.774 per $1,000 of assessment
Wildwood tax rate: $3.25 per $1,000 of assessment

Lee County millage rate is 13.645

Sumter County in Wilwood city limits is 13.40

John Mayes 10-29-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2152217)
So, all the homes in the very southern part of TV will be getting tax bills from the city of Leesburg too? OUCH!! Not to mention getting killed by a high bond. Why do it???

Not Leesburg. Lee County.

Finchs 10-29-2022 07:51 AM

What a goofy mess! Something looks really, really wrong with Wildwood's borders.
 
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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2151823)
This is a map of Wildwood. I would love to know how the boundaries were drawn. It looks like a badly gerrymandered congressional district.


Wildwood, FL Profile: Map

We can only speculate as to how this happened. It looks like someone-- or something --crooked either has been, or still is, in charge in Wildwood!

TC_Arch 10-29-2022 08:01 AM

How on earth can you buy a house and not know what city or county it is located in?

John Mayes 10-29-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SusanStCatherine (Post 2152237)
Compare the water rates. Wildwood city pays up to four times more than northern villages.

Not sure where you got that info from.

Utilities - Rate Information

retiredguy123 10-29-2022 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2152244)
Not Leesburg. Lee County.

Are you sure you don't mean Lake County? It looks like Leesburg, Fruitland Park, and Lady Lake are all in Lake County.

I was just comparing the city tax rates for Leesburg and Wildwood, not county rates.

pauld315 10-29-2022 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sdeikenberry (Post 2152191)
About 5 years ago Wildwood was a very small and poor town. Then TV decided to expand south of 44 and Wildwood saw the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. They started annexing farmland that would become part of TV, and their coffers grew so now they are a town with considerable tax revenue. Folks in TV who live north of 44 do not have this issue, and do not pay nearly $1,000 extra each year to a town, nor do almost all homes north of 466 have any bond to pay. it does matter where you live in TV.

The developers encouraged Wildwood to annex the land. They wanted Wildwood to get boatloads of money so they would have money to fix up that town that had a very high rate of poverty at the time. They figured it is a gateway to TV and they wanted it brought up to a good standard. I do believe that much of the Villages south of 466A to 44 is also included.

John Mayes 10-29-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2152257)
Are you sure you don't mean Lake County? It looks like Leesburg, Fruitland Park, and Lady Lake are all in Lake County.

I was just comparing the city tax rates for Leesburg and Wildwood, not county rates.

My mistake. I had a brain freeze….should be Lake County, not Lee.

Boston1945 10-29-2022 08:32 AM

Simple. The map was drawn up in a small bar on 301 many years ago late one sat. night.

retiredguy123 10-29-2022 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2152253)
Not sure where you got that info from.

Utilities - Rate Information

Comparing the potable and sewer rate per gallon for a Wildwood address and a non-Wildwood address, it appears that the Wildwood rates are about two times the cost of the non-Wildwood rates.

This comparison is using actual water bills, which are public information.

Rainger99 10-29-2022 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 2152258)
The developers encouraged Wildwood to annex the land. They wanted Wildwood to get boatloads of money so they would have money to fix up that town.

What are they doing with the money??

Bogie Shooter 10-29-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2152279)
What are they doing with the money??

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Rainger99 10-29-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2152284)
More to help you sleep at night............
Finance Department | Wildwood Florida

Have they fixed up the town with the money?

Rainger99 10-29-2022 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by VillagerNut (Post 2152189)
Unfortunately most people don’t know they pay additional city tax until they receive their tax bill.

It is true that the real estate agent doesn't tell you that taxes are higher in Wildwood than in the unincorporated parts of Sumter County. But when I bought, I wasn't so much concerned about the breakdown as I was about the total tax bill. The current Villages website estimates taxes should be about $4500 and when I got my first bill, my taxes were well under that. That was a nice surprise! But if I had bought preowned outside of Wildwood, I would have saved about $800 a year.


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