Proper Golf Attire in Question
 

I know there's a quick, easy, brute force solution to this dilemma, but I've gotta start this thread anyway. Not too long ago, proper attire for a golf outing included, for men at least, a collared shirt. Then Tiger Woods came along wearing a Henley collared shirt and the PGA decided, "if it's good enough for Tiger, it's good enough for all". Well, The Villages Golf organization decided to go along with that PGA position and changed their requirements for men's shirts to include Henley collared shirts. They even updated their 'Proper Attire' poster to include a blue Henley example. Then the dilemma came about when going to Executive Courses (haven't tried this on the Champion Courses yet) at tee time while wearing a Henley collared shirt and being told it was not proper attire. Even when the poster showed a Henley on it. Now this isn't ALL Executive Courses, but seems to follow specific individual starters more than anything. It's tough showing up at a specific course where you have played in a Henley before and have a different starter tell you, you're under-dressed and can't tee off. How can we get everyone on the same page?? Apparently not all starters either know the rules or have decided to interpret them as they see fit. One starter told me I was wearing a Henley, but the collar wasn't high enough so he considered it a tee-shirt.

And before anyone suggests the easy fix "wear a collared shirt and the dilemma doesn't exist", I get that. This is about seeking some consistency. That's all.

This is from the districtgov.org website:

"Dress Code for Men
Shirts shall have a collar and sleeves. Turtle-necks or mock turtle-necks are acceptable. (Min. 1/4 inch collars.)"

The collar only needs to be 1/4 inch. My Land's End tee shirts have a 3/4 inch collar. So, I assume that they are acceptable.

Not going to find it here....................need to call appropriate parties.

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How about, if you can golf like tiger woods, you can wear a Henley collar.

I originally thought you were talking about those mock turtle necks he wore 20 years ago, had to google Henley collar

What is a Henley collar? Never heard of it.

It looks just like a tee shirt, but it has 3 or 4 vertical buttons in the front, near the top. It is like a polo shirt, but it doesn't have a collar.

Encountered this a year ago. One of the guys in our foursome had a Henley collared shirt. The starter warned him. I looked at the chart on the wall. Clearly showed that it is approved. She started to argue. I asked her if she could come out to look at the chart. She did. Looked closely. Continued to argue and warn him. Bottom line she knew that she was wrong but would not say so. It was embarrassing.

If it is a turtle-neck or a mock turtle-neck… that’s how I read the English.

My husband had that issue at Pelican. We went to the Tee time Office in Lake Sumter. Henley shirts are accepted on all golf courses. We spoke to a supervisor at the Tee Time office.

I've had this happen to me as well. When it does happen, simply ask to either see their supervisor, or get their supervisor's phone number. If the supervisor is another idiot that has their own perception of the dress code, then ask to speak to their supervisor.

Sooner or later, if everyone does that, all of the mis-informed workers and supervisors will learn what the code really is.

I disagree. That is not what it says. If you Google turtlenecks and mock turtlenecks, you will find that none of them have a collar that is 1/4 inch wide. If it did, it would not be a turtleneck. So, the 1/4 inch rule obviously does not apply to turtleneck shirts. It must apply to other types of shirts. So, it seems to me that a tee shirt with a 3/4 inch collar is acceptable, according to their own rule. If that is not what they mean, they should change the rule.

Soon be 'wife beaters' and 'overalls.'
Golf world is going to hell in a handcart.
They will be starting another Tour next!

You are correct.
The "1/4 inch" measurement relates to t-n or m t-n.
Any other interpretation is wrong.

Assuming you are correct, why do they have a 1/4 inch rule for turtlenecks? If a shirt had a 1/4 inch collar, it would not be a turtleneck. There is nothing stated in the rule that the 1/4 inch rule applies to turtlenecks.

I believe you, as I was just looking at how the English was worded. And… I honestly never check out what a guy is wearing on the golf course.

Come on, you are a smarter guy/girl than that.
You know the information in brackets relate to the prior statement...........if not, I've over estimated you.

The "(Min. 1/4 inch collars.)" is jus additional information.

You know a tee shirt is not appropriate so there is no reason to state: "it seems to me that a tee shirt with a 3/4 inch collar is acceptable"

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LOL. Obviously the rule is defective. But, I see no reason why a man cannot wear a tee shirt on the golf course. And, according the official written rule, you can. If they don't want you to wear a tee shirt, why don't they say it? Turtlenecks, by definition, have wider collars than tee shirts, and most tee shirts have a wider collar than 1/4 inch. So, almost any shirt will comply with The Villages rule. The rule has 3 sentences. How can you proclaim that the verbage in brackets only applies to the second sentence, especially since it makes no sense with respect to turtlenecks? If they published a silly rule, they need to live by it. Why defend it? If Dan Newlin argued this rule in court, he would blow The Villages away.

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Agree

Really trying hard to make something out of nothing.

Now I'm hungry for popcorn.

I agree. But, that is what the thread is about. Staying on topic.

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https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf...dgolfguide.pdf

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Ask for a manager. You were correct

If you google Henley collars tiger woods, Nike makes some very nice golf shirts with a Henley collar.
The problem is, people interpret that it means ANY henley….. Calgary makes a Henley shirt, its not for golf

The problem is that The Villages has different rules for the same thing on the same website. They need consistency. Maybe that is why the employees are confused. This is a dress code from the same districtgov.org website:

"Dress Code for Men
Shirts shall have a collar and sleeves. Turtle-necks or mock turtle-necks are acceptable. (Min. 1/4 inch collars.)"

If you look hard enough, you may find another dress code. Call me crazy, but I think there should only be one dress code.

Not arguing that the website can seem to be inconsistent and it really needs to be updated. That aside, all golf employees are required to attend Good Golf School and proper dress code is part of the class. Individual interpretation of starters and pro shop employees, unfortunately, creeps in and adds to the confusion.

Lots of time and energy wrangling over 1/4 inch.

Here's an idea. Wear a shirt with an actual COLLAR the next time out.

Failing that, my understanding is that the shacks have shirts with collars available for the round for the guy who inadvertently (or intentionally) wore a shirt close to the line. They'll probably offer one to you if you're a nice guy about it rather than attempting to argue the point.

I enjoy wearing the button down collarless golf shirts that are approved as acceptable golf attire by the Villages. In fact, I invested in four very comfortable light weight shirts that are now my go to’s. Apparently some of the employees aren’t aware of the approved dress code as I have been questioned a couple times about my shirt. Easy solution, I took a picture of the approved shirts at Palmer. Last time I was questioned, I showed the employee the attached picture and told him if he still had a problem with my shirt could he please call over the club pro. End of discussion, he suddenly agreed my shirt was acceptable.

You fashion model you.

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So what exactly are you saying. That one shouldn’t wear a nice golf shirt they purchased specifically because it complies with the Villages dress code because some golf course employees aren’t properly educated on how to do their jobs?

That’s what my wife tells me, glad you agree : )

:22yikes: You reply 3 times on this thread, and now you proclaim it's a boring thread.. :1rotfl:

More than 3.

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I fell for it (Really trying hard to make something out of nothing.)

At Lowlands, they know me as a regular. One starter said, when I wore a crew neck short sleeve shirt (like Tiger), that some starters would not allow, others would allow. I wear them at the driving range only and go with the 3-button golf shirts at the course. Would hate to show up for a tee time and be denied.

Golf shirts
 

Also known as a “blade” collar, which is allowable, per The Villages golf dress code (for exec & champ). Henley/Blade button at the top, like a polo, but no collar.

It also used to be that blue jeans were not allowed on the course. But apparently that rule has been thrown out the window. Outside courses say "No denim or tank tops". But in The Villages you can come from the corn harvest right to the golf course. (Yes, I'm from Iowa.)

Welcome to life outside your bubble!

Yeah, "selective enforcement", it runs rampid in TV.

Easy fix. ALL shirts must have a collar.