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Sarah_W 11-19-2022 06:58 AM

Thanksgiving: The Truth
 
Thanksgiving: The Truth


Thanksgiving is next week and Americans will gather their families and friends to sit down for the annual feast. Some will hold hands and recite all they are thankful for. Some will tell the story of Pilgrims and Indians sitting down for a feast. Many will put out the standard props of Pilgrims, pumpkins, gourds, feathers, etc. They will perpetuate the myth and the lie.

The lie.

The fictional partnership of 17th Century European Pilgrims and New England Indians sharing a celebratory meal appears to be just 100 years old. And it was only after the First World War that a version of such a Puritan-Indian partnership took hold in elementary schools across the American landscape. We can thank the invention of textbooks and their mass purchase by public schools for embedding this "Thanksgiving" image in our modern minds. It was, of course, a complete invention, a cleverly created slice of cultural propaganda, just another in a long line of inspired nationalistic myths such as the Easter Bunny.

The first Thanksgiving Day did occur in the year 1637, but it was nothing like our Thanksgiving today. On that day the Massachusetts Colony Governor, John Winthrop, proclaimed such a "Thanksgiving" to celebrate the safe return of a band of heavily armed hunters, all colonial volunteers. They had just returned from their journey to what is now Mystic, Connecticut where they massacred 700 Pequot Indians. Seven hundred Indians - men, women and children - all murdered. A celebration of murder.

Did the Pilgrims share a Thanksgiving feast with the Pequot and Wampanoag Indians as they celebrated their bounty? No, that never happened. Today our national memory is corrupted by the lie of a fictional event. Let there be no mistake, even 382 years later the American Indians of this country know the truth and they remember. They remember it as a day of mourning.

Thanksgiving Day is coming. We will gather with our families and enjoy a feast. We will celebrate and we will give thanks. But let us celebrate the truth, not a lie. Tell your family and friends the real reason and purpose of Thanksgiving. Have your feast. Hold hands and recite all you are thankful for but include the truth of our national holiday.

The Truth.

What exactly is the origin of our national holiday? The fact of the matter is Thanksgiving began with George Washington and became official with Abraham Lincoln. Two presidential proclamations.

Thanksgiving Proclamation signed October 3, 1789 in New York

A proclamation by President George Washington and a congressional resolution established the first national Thanksgiving Day on November 26, 1789. The reason for the holiday was to give "thanks" for the new Constitution. "...to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed..."


Thanksgiving Proclamation sighed October 3, 1863 in Washington

A proclamation by President Abraham Lincoln created Thanksgiving Day as a National holiday. Prior to this each state had their own Thanksgiving celebrations at various times. Sarah Josepha Hale, a 74-year-old magazine editor, wrote a letter to Lincoln urging him to make Thanksgiving a National holiday so all Americans would celebrate at the same time. Fresh from a Union victory at Gettysburg, the turning point of the Civil War, Lincoln made the proclamation creating the National holiday to occur the last Thursday of November for the nation to give thanks to Almighty God and "commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged."


Americans should celebrate the truth that 55 men gathered in 1787 in Philadelphia to design an experimental form of government - by the People and for the People; giving us the Constitution, accepted and signed by all states in 1789 then celebrated by Proclamation on November 26, 1789.

On October 3, 1789, George Washington published his proclamation designating Thursday, November 26, 1789 as the Day of Thanksgiving. Our first President, "George Washington issued a proclamation on October 3, 1789, designating Thursday, November 26 as a national day of thanks. In his proclamation, Washington declared that the necessity for such a day sprung from the Almighty’s care of Americans prior to the Revolution, assistance to them in achieving independence, and help in establishing the constitutional government."

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Source: Thanksgiving Proclamation of 1789 * George Washington's Mount Vernon

" By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.
Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor-- and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness."
Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be-- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks--for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation--for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war--for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed--for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted--for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.
and also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions-- to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually--to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed--to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord--To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us--and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.
Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.
Go: Washington"

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Source: Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln

Americans should celebrate that 74 years after George Washington's proclamation, when our nation was torn in half, men and women worked and fought and died to heal this nation prompting Abraham Lincoln to memorialize it as a National holiday.

Sarah Josepha Hale, a 74-year-old magazine editor, wrote a letter to Lincoln on September 28, 1863, urging him to have the "day of our annual Thanksgiving made a National and fixed Union Festival." She explained, "You may have observed that, for some years past, there has been an increasing interest felt in our land to have the Thanksgiving held on the same day, in all the States; it now needs National recognition and authoritative fixation, only, to become permanently, an American custom and institution."

The document below sets apart the last Thursday of November "as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise." According to an April 1, 1864, letter from John Nicolay, one of President Lincoln's secretaries, this document was written by Secretary of State William Seward, and the original was in his handwriting. On October 3, 1863, fellow Cabinet member Gideon Welles recorded in his diary how he complimented Seward on his work. A year later the manuscript was sold to benefit Union troops.

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"Washington, D.C.
October 3, 1863
By the President of the United States of America.
A Proclamation.

The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In the midst of a civil war of unequalled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle or the ship; the axe has enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with large increase of freedom. No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy. It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American People. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquillity and Union.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the Seal of the United States to be affixed.
Done at the City of Washington, this Third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the Independence of the United States the Eighty-eighth.
By the President: Abraham Lincoln
William H. Seward,
Secretary of State"

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The term "Pilgrims" didn't even exist until the 1880's. Around that time there was a popular children's book containing a fictional story of Pilgrims and Indians enjoying a feast together with the setting being the early years of settlors. This story gained in popularity, became a play, and then began to flourish in grade schools across the country. Decades went by and we as citizens just accepted the story as factual. It is not.

Okay then, what is Thanksgiving Day really about?

Standing in the shade of the Tree of Liberty is what sets Americans apart from the rest of the world. Colonial Americans planted the seeds of Liberty at Boston, Lexington, and Concord. From 1775 to 1783 the same Americans watered the Tree of Liberty with their blood so that their posterity, you and me, would enjoy Liberty like no other citizen in the world. Again, from 1861 to 1865 Americans watered the Tree of Liberty to keep our nation whole.

Thanksgiving Day is the day when we as Americans should give thanks for the wisdom of our Founding Fathers and the sacrifices of our forefathers. Historians estimate that approximately 23,000 Americans died for our Liberty during the War for Independence. Less than a century later another 620,000 Americans died during the Civil War. How many more sacrificed their fortunes? How many more sacrificed their well-being and safety? Let go of the myth and celebrate the truth. Be thankful that so many before us made sacrifices to ensure that we are free and enjoy the highest degree of Liberty in the world. Be thankful and ponder what you are willing to do to keep that Liberty.

If you do nothing else, tell the TRUTH.

Daxdog 11-19-2022 07:39 AM

You really spent a lot of time typing this out, noting better to do? Who cares?

nick demis 11-19-2022 07:45 AM

Can't wait till Christmas comes.

golfing eagles 11-19-2022 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Daxdog (Post 2158791)
You really spent a lot of time typing this out, noting better to do? Who cares?

My guess it was a copy and paste. Here's an excerpt from a similar website:

"While the decimated Wampanoag helped the British boat people survive their first harrowing year, Native Americans say that the favor was not returned. A group which calls itself "The United American Indians of New England" alleges that in return for Indian generosity, Pilgrims stole their grain stores and robbed Wampanoag graves."

Makes you wonder whose "truth" is being reported

Personally, I doubt the Pilgrims risked a transatlantic crossing to rob native graves, especially since their own laws would have punished that crime by death.

rustyp 11-19-2022 07:58 AM

[QUOTE=Sarah_W;2158760]
Thanksgiving: The Truth







A proclamation by President George Washington and a congressional resolution established the first national Thanksgiving Day on November 26, 1789. The reason for the holiday was to give "thanks" for the new Constitution. "...to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed..."


I was extremely thankful until I got to the last 6 words.

rustyp 11-19-2022 08:03 AM

[QUOTE=rustyp;2158816][QUOTE=Sarah_W;2158760]
Thanksgiving: The Truth







A proclamation by President George Washington and a congressional resolution established the first national Thanksgiving Day on November 26, 1789. The reason for the holiday was to give "thanks" for the new Constitution. "...to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed..."

Giveaway - free frozen turkey. I need to use up my complementary chicken in the pot.

ThirdOfFive 11-19-2022 08:11 AM

To be honest, I couldn’t care less. My reasons for celebrating Thanksgiving, or any holiday for that matter, are my own.

Beyond that, I would not attempt to insult others by preaching to them how THEY should celebrate their holiday.

Bogie Shooter 11-19-2022 08:17 AM

Pot stirring.:popcorn:

golfing eagles 11-19-2022 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2158836)
Pot stirring.:popcorn:

With turkey soup in the pot :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Byte1 11-19-2022 08:35 AM

Ok, so you don't like Thanksgiving, or you just don't like religious holidays? Either way, whether you believe it's legit or not, it is a legal gov holiday that is celebrated by giving thanks in America. If you goal is to start another debate as to whether or not GOD exists or how badly the white man has treated the indigenous natives of this continent, why bother? Thanksgiving is a holiday where many families have a chance to get together, and that is a good thing, usually. Why cast a cloud over other folk's head regarding a great time of the year for them? My advice (probably unwanted) is to enjoy the positive attitude of your neighbors during the holiday season.

golfing eagles 11-19-2022 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2158856)
Ok, so you don't like Thanksgiving, or you just don't like religious holidays? Either way, whether you believe it's legit or not, it is a legal gov holiday that is celebrated by giving thanks in America. If you goal is to start another debate as to whether or not GOD exists or how badly the white man has treated the indigenous natives of this continent, why bother? Thanksgiving is a holiday where many families have a chance to get together, and that is a good thing, usually. Why cast a cloud over other folk's head regarding a great time of the year for them? My advice (probably unwanted) is to enjoy the positive attitude of your neighbors during the holiday season.

I don't know if the OP's account is historically accurate or not. Without sounding unsympathetic, the reality is that every war has a winner and a loser. It sucks to be the loser, period.

Byte1 11-19-2022 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2158865)
I don't know if the OP's account is historically accurate or not. Without sounding unsympathetic, the reality is that every war has a winner and a loser. It sucks to be the loser, period.

:agree:

tophcfa 11-19-2022 09:25 AM

All I care about is that it is still officially called Thanksgiving and that some group of wack jobs hasn’t tried to deface the holiday like they did to Columbus Day.

retiredguy123 11-19-2022 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2158844)
With turkey soup in the pot :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I think the soup is made after Thanksgiving.

manaboutown 11-19-2022 09:31 AM

Canada has a Thanksgiving as well. Thanksgiving (Canada - Wikipedia)

From the above:

"Years later, French settlers, having crossed the ocean and arrived in Canada with explorer Samuel de Champlain, from 1604, also held feasts of thanks. They formed the Order of Good Cheer and held feasts with their First Nations neighbours, at which food was shared.

After the Seven Years' War ended in 1763, with New France handed over to the British, the citizens of Halifax held a special day of Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving days were observed beginning in 1799 but did not occur every year.

During and after the American Revolution, American refugees who remained loyal to Great Britain moved from the newly independent United States to Canada. They brought the customs and practices of the American Thanksgiving to Canada, such as the turkey, pumpkin, and squash."

So, it appears American Thanksgiving was being celebrated in some form during the America Revolution. I love Thanksgiving!

villager7591 11-19-2022 09:54 AM

The truth: Thanksgiving, in the USA, is where family and friends gather, to give thanks for a wonderful life.

tophcfa 11-19-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by villager7591 (Post 2158904)
The truth: Thanksgiving, in the USA, is where family and friends gather, to give thanks for a wonderful life.

…………, argue about politics, eat until they feel nauseous, then try not to fall asleep watching football.

alwann 11-19-2022 10:25 AM

Wasn't there a massacre where the Pilgrims in Jamestown got wiped out? To paraphrase something someone infamous once said: There were some good(and bad) people on both sides.

dewilson58 11-19-2022 10:33 AM

[QUOTE=rustyp;2158816]
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Originally Posted by Sarah_W (Post 2158760)
Thanksgiving: The Truth


A proclamation by President George Washington and a congressional resolution established the first national Thanksgiving Day on November 26, 1789. The reason for the holiday was to give "thanks" for the new Constitution. "...to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws,
discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed..."


I was extremely thankful until I got to the last 6 words.

Thanks for reading thru this...............Now I know how the story ended......No Way was I going to read.

:thumbup:

dewilson58 11-19-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2158919)
…………, argue about politics, eat until they feel nauseous, then try not to fall asleep watching football.

..................and I get to wear funny pants.

:evil6:

golfing eagles 11-19-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2158931)
Wasn't there a massacre where the Pilgrims in Jamestown got wiped out? To paraphrase something someone infamous once said: There were some good(and bad) people on both sides.

Yep. Like I said, war has winners and losers. Our ancestors didn't always win-----can anyone spell "George Armstrong Custer"????

rustyp 11-19-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2158940)
yep. Like i said, war has winners and losers. Our ancestors didn't always win-----can anyone spell "george armstrong custer"????


johrj aarmstraong kuhster

Decadeofdave 11-19-2022 11:14 AM

Wow, this really changes my mind and will reset the way I celebrate Thanksgiving, Not!

Taltarzac725 11-19-2022 11:30 AM

Thanksgiving 2022 - Tradition, Origins & Meaning - HISTORY

I like this version above.

My ancestors on my Mother's side landed in Massachusetts around 1670-1680. Thanks to them for being so brave to come to a new country for them.

I recall my grandfather was involved in a lawsuit with the Wampanoag over properties their tribe was claiming as tribal land. Wampanoag - Wikipedia

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The Mashpee Wampanoag Tribal Council was established in 1972 under the leadership of its first president, Russell "Fast Turtle" Peters. In 1974 the Council petitioned the Bureau of Indian Affairs for recognition. In 1976 the tribe sued the Town of Mashpee for the return of ancestral homelands. The case was lost but the tribe continued to pursue federal recognition for three decades.

BobnBev 11-19-2022 11:39 AM

I can't believe I read the whole thing.......15 minutes of my life wasted.:blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-19-2022 11:52 AM

The Pequot War was a thing. You can pretend it has no significance, you can claim ignorance - until you learn otherwise. And then your decision to form an opinion on the matter is yours alone. The fable of Thanksgiving, what you were told in grammar school, what the advertising agencies push to sell turkeys and cardboard cutouts and dioramas and pumpkins - is a fable.

I think the OP is asking everyone to remember that Thanksgiving isn't really about all that advertising garbage. And to remember and respect that it IS about being thankful that we have our lives, our Democratic Republic, our relative freedoms and rights.

And NOT that the Pilgrims shared a meal with the Native Americans. Because that - never happened.

golfing eagles 11-19-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2158982)
The Pequot War was a thing. You can pretend it has no significance, you can claim ignorance - until you learn otherwise. And then your decision to form an opinion on the matter is yours alone. The fable of Thanksgiving, what you were told in grammar school, what the advertising agencies push to sell turkeys and cardboard cutouts and dioramas and pumpkins - is a fable.

I think the OP is asking everyone to remember that Thanksgiving isn't really about all that advertising garbage. And to remember and respect that it IS about being thankful that we have our lives, our Democratic Republic, our relative freedoms and rights.

And NOT that the Pilgrims shared a meal with the Native Americans. Because that - never happened.

You're probably right. But remember---it's the winners that write the history books.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-19-2022 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2158984)
You're probably right. But remember---it's the winners that write the history books.

Spoken like someone who chooses which history books to believe.

Losers write history books too. And sometimes - there is no winner. And there are books written. Sometimes, everyone wins. And there aren't any books written.

Two Bills 11-19-2022 12:32 PM

Turkeys want Thanksgiving and Christmas banned, and changed to a vegan celebration!

Taltarzac725 11-19-2022 12:37 PM

Everyone'''s history matters: The Wampanoag Indian Thanksgiving story deserves to be known | Smithsonian Voices | National Museum of the American Indian Smithsonian Magazine

If you want accurate history this might be it.

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For a moment of history, the interests of the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag aligned. When the Pilgrims landed in New England, after failing to make their way to the milder mouth of the Hudson, they had little food and no knowledge of the new land. The Wampanoag suggested a mutually beneficial relationship, in which the Pilgrims would exchange European weaponry for Wampanoag for food. With the help of an English-speaking Patuxet Indian named Tisquantum (not Squanto; he spoke English because he was kidnapped and sold in the European slave trade before making his way back to America), the Pilgrims produced a bountiful supply of food that summer. For their part, the Wampanoag were able to defend themselves against the Narragansett. The feast of indigenous foods that took place in October 1621, after the harvest, was one of thanks, but it more notably symbolized the rare, peaceful coexistence of the two groups.
I believe there is a series that also tells the story along these lines.

manaboutown 11-19-2022 12:45 PM

According to this they had a three day feast!

"The holiday dates back to November 1621, when the newly arrived Pilgrims and the Wampanoag Indians gathered at Plymouth for an autumn harvest feast, an event regarded as America’s “first Thanksgiving.”

While no records exist of the exact bill of fare, the Pilgrim chronicler Edward Winslow noted in his journal that the colony’s governor, William Bradford, sent four men on a “fowling” mission in preparation for the three-day event.

At the first Thanksgiving, colonists were likely outnumbered more than two to one by the Native Americans in attendance. Winslow writes: “many of the Indians coming amongst us, and amongst the rest their greatest king Massasoit, with some ninety men.” In fact, the Indigenous people at the feast would have been familiar with the tradition of “thanksgiving” since it was central to their regular spiritual practices—to give thanks for natural bounty.

The preceding winter had been a harsh one for the colonists. Seventy-eight percent of the women who had traveled on the Mayflower had perished that winter, leaving only around 50 colonists to attend the first Thanksgiving. According to eyewitness accounts, among the pilgrims, there were 22 men, just four women and over 25 children and teenagers.

What Was Eaten at the First Thanksgiving? - HISTORY

coralway 11-19-2022 12:53 PM

Hope the Yankees can sign Judge

PugMom 11-19-2022 01:04 PM

personally, i used to love listening to Rush's version of the Thanksgiving tale every year :shrug:

Daxdog 11-19-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2158940)
Yep. Like I said, war has winners and losers. Our ancestors didn't always win-----can anyone spell "George Armstrong Custer"????



I knew this photo would be handy someday. This is at Little Big Horn, it is where he fell, I think he is buried at West Point.

bruce213 11-19-2022 01:55 PM

Thanks to the OP. Hard to believe pointing out some truths is this controversial some 400 years later.

golfing eagles 11-19-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2158955)
johrj aarmstraong kuhster

That must be common core English:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 11-19-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2158988)
Spoken like someone who chooses which history books to believe.

Losers write history books too. And sometimes - there is no winner. And there are books written. Sometimes, everyone wins. And there aren't any books written.

Well, I do prefer choosing for myself rather than have some ultra woke university professor choose for me, if that helps.

golfing eagles 11-19-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2158995)
Everyone'''s history matters: The Wampanoag Indian Thanksgiving story deserves to be known | Smithsonian Voices | National Museum of the American Indian Smithsonian Magazine

If you want accurate history this might be it.

For a moment of history, the interests of the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag aligned. When the Pilgrims landed in New England, after failing to make their way to the milder mouth of the Hudson, they had little food and no knowledge of the new land. The Wampanoag suggested a mutually beneficial relationship, in which the Pilgrims would exchange European weaponry for Wampanoag for food. With the help of an English-speaking Patuxet Indian named Tisquantum (not Squanto; he spoke English because he was kidnapped and sold in the European slave trade before making his way back to America), the Pilgrims produced a bountiful supply of food that summer. For their part, the Wampanoag were able to defend themselves against the Narragansett. The feast of indigenous foods that took place in October 1621, after the harvest, was one of thanks, but it more notably symbolized the rare, peaceful coexistence of the two groups.

I believe there is a series that also tells the story along these lines.

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Originally Posted by bruce213 (Post 2159032)
Thanks to the OP. Hard to believe pointing out some truths is this controversial some 400 years later.

I think you may have misspelled TALTARZAC who pointing out the truth

ThirdOfFive 11-19-2022 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2159037)
Well, I do prefer choosing for myself rather than have some ultra woke university professor choose for me, if that helps.

Second that...

coffeebean 11-19-2022 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Daxdog (Post 2158791)
You really spent a lot of time typing this out, noting better to do? Who cares?

There is such a thing as "copy and paste", you know. I sincerely doubt the OP typed this out, word by word.


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