Why no cement lining the paths south of 44?
 

Our MM Paths north of 44 have cement "ribbons" lining each side of the paths. This cement prevents the grass from invading the asphalt and gives the landscapers a sharp edge to keep the grass edged.

I personally have not driven on the cart paths south of 44 but my sister routinely takes a ride in her golf cart on Sundays south of 44. She has noticed that the paths down south do not have the cement "ribbon" along the sides of the asphalt. Without this ribbon of cement, the grass has invaded the asphalt and she told me those paths look awful.

Infrastructure on the cheap is what is happening down south. Too bad.

We get no retail, gas, benches, intersection entrances. This is not even policy as the new path up north got curbs last month.

Rather than jumping to conclusions , why not just call and ask?
VCDD District Property Management

Could be waiting for What they call , “wet prairie settling” It should be noticed within the next 3-5 years…

Sooooo..
 

...you think they should have built the retail, streets and pathways first, then the homes? Not the best economic plan especially for the business owners. Like building a Costco in the middle of the Mojave Desert and thinking all will flock there. Give it a few years, it will all come around.chilout

MMP paths have cement. borders. Think she's taking about walking paths.

The concrete is not there because that is what the developer decided to do when they built the paths south of 44. I recall someone citing a developer representative saying that they wanted an appearance that reflected the more rural character of the area south of 44. (Yes, I personally think that is a bunch of crap, though I suppose if you take "rural" to mean dirt roads and such then mission accomplished.)
If individual districts, which own the paths, want to put in the concrete they can do so (though I don't know if the paths fall under "common infrastructure" and would therefore fall under the jurisdiction of PWAC).

Not sure exactly what you're talking about, but the MMP paths north of 44 do not have cement “curbs”.
They are at the same level as the grass, so the golf carts can pull up onto the grass.
We’ve all seen carts pulled over.
They might have curbs around the circles or the underpasses.

She said “ribbons”.

Some do have the cement edging and since you admit you haven't been it might be wise to take a trip to find out for yourself. There are many long stretches of just asphalt, but not all.

There are at least one or two other Threads regarding the MM paths south of 44. Use TOTV “search” and you will find them. Bottom line a lot changed when the Developer went south of 44 some good and some maybe not so much.

I know what you are saying. I do find the "look" of The Villages south of 44 is different. Supposedly, the look is supposed to be more "natural" than more "manicured" that we have up north. As for the retail, gas and such, I keep reading on this forum that will all come in good time. Just have to wait for it.

When the population density reaches some level the stores will come. Wondering how many of us will be around to appreciate that.

What is to jump to conclusion. There is no cement ribbon lining each side of the MM Paths down south. That is something one is able to see. Sis says the paths look awful and I believe her.

Gee, I would have to ask my sister. I know they don't walk when they take their golf cart rides down south and I would imagine she is driving on the golf cart paths.

Come to think of it......the most recent walking path in the northern section is the path that begins at the Lake Miona Rec Center. I haven't been on that path yet but wondering if that path is just asphalt with no cement ribbons. Anyone know?

I'm not referring to "curbs". These are cement "ribbons" that line each side of the MM Paths. The cement is the same level as the asphalt but the cement does not allow the grass to infiltrate it, therefore, the asphalt remains grass free.

One of my mantras has always been, "never say never" and "never say all". I imagine you are correct about that. Some paths have the cement ribbons and some don't. Thing is, north of 44, I have not seen a MMP that does not have a cement ribbon protecting the asphalt.

You mean this one;

https://www.**************.com/2022/...-narrow-width/

The link is blocked with ********* but I think I have read that thread. There are many complaints that this new walking path is too narrow.

Correct. Several articles in the online news that we can’t mention.

Not sure where she is driving but I’m on the MMP’s south of 44 every day. I live north of the turnpike and pretty sure I’ve been on all MMP’s on my side and I drive to the south side for golf or to eat several times a week. I’ve never noticed any MMP’s that look “awful”. Some have concrete ribbons, some don’t. I’d be interested where your sister has seen paths that look awful.

Not sure I agree with "sis" if she is talking about MM paths. I ride the MMP north of 44 every day to Odell Circle and I do not see any cement ribbons on the MMPs. We stop at the dog area just south of Hillsborough all the time and pull our cart right up on the grass with everyone else without crossing any cement border.

??? Where is there a dog park just south of Hillsborough? If you mean the one near the Wiechens Preserve, that is Moyer Loop. The concrete ribbons are clearly visible along the MMP at Morse and Moyer Loop in google maps.I

In general, the ribbons seem to be present north of 44 and in the Fenney area but not in the area between 44 and the Turnpike.

It still baffles me why someone who doesn’t live south of 44, probably never visits south of 44 feels the need to bash everything south of 44 every chance he gets.

It might not be jealousy but it sure looks like some sort of personal insecurity.

“Infrastructure on the cheap is what is happening down south.”coffee bean.

Most from people that haven’t walked the path.

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Well said.

There is nothing at all that looks terrible or awful down here. It looks different from the north of 44 areas, but different doesn’t equal awful. To those who don’t like the look of it, the simple solution is to stay up north. This whole thread is BS and just seems like pot stirring from someone who has no skin in the game in the south of 44 area. Why the obsession with something that doesn’t need to concern them is a great question though .

Sis is wrong. The paths down here are perfectly fine.

The Lake Miona Rec center path is a rubberized surface like they use for running tracks with cement borders. It is six feet wide including the cement borders. Those from the district thought when they asked for a six foot wide path it would be six feet wide not including the borders, and admittedly, that would have been wonderful. However the path does work well and is fairly popular.

There is another rubberized surface walking path north off 441, just on the other side of the 441 bridge. I don’t know if there are any south of 44, but if there are I bet they also have concrete borders.

From google maps it looks like both the walking and MMPs south of the turnpike have concrete borders.

Exactly, they would be very difficult to drive at night without a border.

I've observed the edges of the blacktop are already breaking off on the cart paths without the concrete curbs.

If you keep following the path up Morse, you'll see the concrete is mostly on the west side of the path (due to the landscaping), and that it comes and goes on the east side...

I don't remember that and can't see it in google maps but maybe I'll look for it sometime.

But even if that is the case, it is still true that the ribbon exists on the MMPs north of 44 but is absent on many south of 44 except in the Fenney area.

Possibly...

Although, the last time I was down (in October), the boss and I did the "Southern Loop", crossing over the Chitty Chatty bridge, driving down to St Catherine, stopping @ Sawgrass, crossing the Turnpike and coming back thru Brownwood and I didn't notice and problems with the MMPs... In fact, I was impressed with what they've done in Marsh Bend, De Soto, Fenney and Richmond... (I didn't venture very far south of Warm Springs on the far side of the Turnpike...)

Lack Flowers and waterfalls haven’t been infused into this thread yet..wait for it:clap2:

I have a question regarding the mmp’s lack of curbing. Is zoysia grass used in the landscaping along those paths or is a different type of grass used?

We had unlined blacktop streets in our patio villa area north of 466A before we moved into a house. The zoysia grass was so invasive that it was permeating the blacktop all over the streets. Ribbon curbing was installed to cure the problem. If zoysia was not used south of 44, there shouldn’t be any issues with a lack of concrete borders along the mmps.

Agree as far as concrete ribbons on the path edges goes, but the lack of Championship golf is a legitimate concern for those living north of 44. They do have skin in that game, all the people in the new areas have to go somewhere, which is definitely not a good thing for for the supply/demand equation.