Roundabouts and the law
 

It's funny how many posts there are about the roundabouts, and how few of the people actually know the law. You may have an opinion but knowing the law may save you from having an accident or getting a ticket. Look at section 5.17 of the Florida Drivers handbook.
Florida Driver Handbook | Roundabouts

Are you allowed to go around the circle twice?

Only if you don't know the way out.

"But did he ever return?
No he never returned
And his fate is still unlearned
He may ride forever
'Neath the streets of Boston
He's the man, who never returned"
(The Kingston Trio)

The law is irrelevant without enforcement. Slap on wrist for driving without a license. It’s pointless to discuss

Three times max!

Hey Kids look, Big Ben…. Parliament

For multi-lane roundabouts, stay in the left lane to turn left and the right lane to turn right, and all lanes to go through, unless otherwise directed by signs or pavement markings.

Stay in your lane within the roundabout and use your right turn signal to indicate your intention to exit

Most vehicle rules in The Villages are ignored from golf cart speed to ignoring speed limit signs and of course roundabouts. What is lacking is enforcement by local law enforcement.
Amazing how so many people are at sited for no license, suspended license, expired registered vehicles, offenders are cited bonded out to drive again. No wonder why Florida has such high motor Vehicle Insurance rates. Insurance reform by the State Legislative review is ineffective.

I never understood why the state doesn't require a proof of insurance sticker or decal on the car showing the insurance expiration date. A large percentage of drivers have no insurance, and you won't know it until they have an accident. Some drivers will buy insurance and register a car for 2 years, but cancel the insurance after the first month.

A good summary of what the handbook says, but the main problem is those drivers who see that the outside lane is clear so enter the roundabout, without thinking about those vehicles that are in the inside lane (and will eventually have to cross the outside lane to exit).

New titled thread all the other posts will show up here.:cus::shrug::duck:

In theory, you never have to cross the "outside lane" to exit a Roundabout.

I'm sure there may be more, but the only one in TV that I'm aware of, is turning onto Moyer Loop from Morse.

In practice, you always have to cross the "outside lane" if you enter the roundabout in the left lane to use the inside lane.

You do if you are using the roundabout correctly.

If turning left, you enter the inside lane and stay in it until you want to exit. You do NOT move into the outside lane and then turn, but turn from the inside lane, across the outside lane.

That is why those in the outside lane need to be paying attention, positioned correctly, and allow those in front to make their turn ACROSS them.

If going straight over, you (usually) have the option of going in either lane, but if you choose the inside lane you still stay in it until your exit.

The biggest issues are people in the outside lane continuing to the 3rd exit or people crossing the dashed lane without looking.

Yeah! Post cops at every exit to shoot any law breakers. Now, that is enforcement!
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Pretty simple
 

Simple

No wonder why people have so many problems diving in the roundabouts, they can’t describe the correct way to navigate them. Here are a couple statements that make no sense:
1) In theory, you never have to cross the "outside lane" to exit a Roundabout.
2) stay in the inside lane to turn left.

What? If you are inside lane lane to make the 3rd exit, you will have to cross over the outside lane to exit or you will always be going in a circle.
There is no left hand turn in a roundabout, only right hand turns to exit. Going around the roundabout is not turning left, if you turn left in a roundabout you will turn into the center where all the shrubs and trees are.
Using your turn signals doesn’t make a mistake into a right (no pun intended). For example, entering the roundabout into the inside lane and making the 1st right with your turn signal on doesn’t make it right.
I see these errors occur everyday.

Oh great, like we need more laws? They do enforce the laws, we don’t need more laws, isn’t that why you moved from New York?

Haha. I love that movie.

You can go around the circle as many times as you want. I don't know the law. I have one rule when i approach the traffic circle: Approach it with caution. If the other person wants, or takes, the right of way, then give it to them! Always keep your eye on the cars around you, keep distance between you and them and ASSUME they DO NOT know the law or even that you are there.

["Soaring Eagle was my MPK name.]

The diagram does not show that option (presumably because it is an unlikely scenario) but as long as you are in the inside lane and not signaling to take the next exit you can stay there as long as you like.

Always approach the round about with caution. Some like the one at Savannah Center/El Camino/ GlenView is in the top 3 for accidents. Be safe, learn the rules, be cautious, you never know what someone else might do..,

Curious - how do you know “how few” people know…..? Do you have a crystal ball!

If you can’t figure that out you need to go turn in your driver’s license!

If you can’t figure that out you need to go turn in your driver’s license!

You are misunderstanding the tern "turn left" as it applies to roundabouts. "Turn left" means "take the third exit". You are making a left at the intersection.

The solution to this is roundabouts have only one lane. Easy Peasy!

Two lane roundabouts is the crux of the problem.

And you must also Yield Right of Way to vehicles already in the roundabouts

Just read the round a bout threads………:ho:

Did you know that Fla DMV issues people with no license vehicle registrations? How many of them have chauffeurs!

Watch them, read the posts
 

If you watch people at the roundabouts and read the posts, isn't it obvious?

I didn't move from New York. But, isn't it more important for a car to be insured than to be registered? You have to display proof of registration on the vehicle, but not proof of insurance. 20 percent of drivers in Florida are uninsured. It seems like Florida wants people to be driving without insurance.

This is a older community of aging limitations. Why would the developer put any in. Look at all the cities where they had them. Never worked out in a busy area. Just remove them.

You can spin around there all day if you want. Just stay in the inside lane. But you will have to exit sooner or later...unless you run out of gas...or your batteries die.

They work many, many busy places…including The Villages.

So...who does the counting to enforce that "law"?

Just the facts ma’am
 

“The Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT) says that roundabouts in Florida have resulted in 90 percent fewer fatal crashes, 75 percent fewer injuries in those and 10-40 percent fewer pedestrian/bicycle crashes, and they are safer for beginner and elderly drivers.”