Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   Weather Talk (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/weather-talk-515/)
-   -   Did You Feel The Burn? (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/weather-talk-515/did-you-feel-burn-339281/)

sounding 02-23-2023 07:27 PM

Did You Feel The Burn?
 
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

Bill14564 02-23-2023 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

With an average February high of 79 or “only” made it to 87. Yep, busted

sounding 02-23-2023 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2190870)
With an average February high of 79 or “only” made it to 87. Yep, busted

Correct. Busted by 4 degrees -- far from a record. More importantly, news sources never provide verification data showing their error statistics. In fact, if you look at the past few years of verification data, the error bias is far to the hot side, just like the climate models.

Bill14564 02-23-2023 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190875)
Correct. Busted by 4 degrees -- far from a record. More importantly, news sources never provide verification data showing their error statistics. In fact, if you look at the past few years of verification data, the error bias is far to the hot side, just like the climate models.

Verification data? For a weather report?!!

sounding 02-23-2023 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2190877)
Verification data? For a weather report?!!

Exactly right. That's called quality control. Otherwise they could lie all day long and no one would know the difference -- just like today's busted forecast -- which the news failed to report. Notice how much more these days they are forecasting record breaking temperatures. That was rare years ago. My mentor said never publicly forecast a record anything -- unless you have a proven track record -- otherwise you achieve a credibility problem.

sounding 02-24-2023 06:55 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

Six days ago NWS forecast Orlando would hit a high of 89, but that also busted with just 86. For some reason NWS still thinks earth is warming, even though satellite data shows otherwise. January data is very telling.

MorTech 02-25-2023 12:51 AM

Translation: You'll own nothing and be happy...OH!, and eat bugs.

Sandy and Ed 02-25-2023 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190880)
Exactly right. That's called quality control. Otherwise they could lie all day long and no one would know the difference -- just like today's busted forecast -- which the news failed to report. Notice how much more these days they are forecasting record breaking temperatures. That was rare years ago. My mentor said never publicly forecast a record anything -- unless you have a proven track record -- otherwise you achieve a credibility problem.

Now hold on there!! I know for a fact that the weatherman is 100% accurate when reporting yesterday’s weather today. Of course, yeah, it would be nice for him to explain why his weather prediction yesterday for today was in the toilet

sounding 02-25-2023 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2191179)
Translation: You'll own nothing and be happy...OH!, and eat bugs.

Bugs reminds me. I hear Panera has a "climate friendly" menu.

MandoMan 02-25-2023 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

But my thermometer here read 90°. It was quite warm.

Larchap49 02-25-2023 08:08 AM

Global warming HA!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190875)
Correct. Busted by 4 degrees -- far from a record. More importantly, news sources never provide verification data showing their error statistics. In fact, if you look at the past few years of verification data, the error bias is far to the hot side, just like the climate models.

That's because their is no verification data to support global warming. Spend some of your valuable retirement time and research it. A few small glaciers in the northern hemisphere have receded but the ice pack in Antarctica is growing daily. The water levels that were supposed to flood islands in the south Pacific haven't moved in 30 years and very little in 1000 years. The research is available so stop listening to fake news and look it up. Also remember almost every item in your reach or sight that's not wood or metal comes from petroleum or is made by the use of it. Just on more hoax to get what THEY want and make more money and gain control

sounding 02-25-2023 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2191277)
But my thermometer here read 90°. It was quite warm.

Does your thermometer meet the NOAA siting standards ... in a proper shelter (or shade), about 5 feet above ground, at least 100 feet from pavement & buildings, and away from other obstructions like trees, fences etc ... Site and Exposure Standards

sounding 02-25-2023 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larchap49 (Post 2191287)
That's because their is no verification data to support global warming. Spend some of your valuable retirement time and research it. A few small glaciers in the northern hemisphere have receded but the ice pack in Antarctica is growing daily. The water levels that were supposed to flood islands in the south Pacific haven't moved in 30 years and very little in 1000 years. The research is available so stop listening to fake news and look it up. Also remember almost every item in your reach or sight that's not wood or metal comes from petroleum or is made by the use of it. Just on more hoax to get what THEY want and make more money and gain control

Research also shows there are at least 100 glaciers not melting and even growing. Otherwise, glaciers are taking up valuable land which could be used for better purposes -- like more solar panels and wind turbines.

Mazjaz 02-25-2023 08:16 AM

The climate change hoax has been around for 50 years and people keep buying the kool aide.

RUCdaze 02-25-2023 08:39 AM

The BIG lie: Global warming, promoted by The New World Order for control of the masses. Idiot sheeple buy into this.

Taltarzac725 02-25-2023 08:40 AM

There is a whole lot more to it. The Great Climate Change Debate — Divided We Fall

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazjaz (Post 2191295)
The climate change hoax has been around for 50 years and people keep buying the kool aide.


sounding 02-25-2023 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazjaz (Post 2191295)
The climate change hoax has been around for 50 years and people keep buying the kool aide.

And now they can buy "climate friendly" food at Paneras.

loweglor 02-25-2023 09:05 AM

Only 87? OMG, you just can't trust those weather people.

Regorp 02-25-2023 09:05 AM

Weather
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

Why not return to cave man weather prediction, walk out of cave, sun is shining, will be nice day for hunting.

loweglor 02-25-2023 09:07 AM

Climate change hoax? Enjoy your Kool Ade.

loweglor 02-25-2023 09:15 AM

No data to support global warming. Seriously? I'm curious as to where you get your info. Get over your fear of the term "global warming" and do some real research. Compare the ice caps 100 years ago to today and then look at how quickly they have melted in a shorter period of time in history. Just because you deny global warming doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Two Bills 02-25-2023 09:15 AM

Climate change is real.
In my 80+ years on this earth, it is a fact the weather has changed.
Winters are warmer, summers are definitely getting drier, and extremes of wind and rain are quite noticeable.
The trillion dollar question?
Is it man made?

All answers on a separate piece of paper please!!:thumbup:

Wondering 02-25-2023 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

Don't you have anything better to do. with your time?

kenoc7 02-25-2023 12:20 PM

Feel the burn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

No report that I saw linked the PREDICTED record temperature to CLIMATE change, which is real but has no meaning relative to one day of WEATHER.

Lchughart@gmail.com 02-25-2023 12:35 PM

Climate alarmists are costing us, trillions in wasted tax money, we all want clean, air and water, but what they’re doing is just trying to grab the power from all of us and control us, stop it!

sounding 02-25-2023 12:37 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2191340)
Climate change is real.
In my 80+ years on this earth, it is a fact the weather has changed.
Winters are warmer, summers are definitely getting drier, and extremes of wind and rain are quite noticeable.
The trillion dollar question?
Is it man made?

All answers on a separate piece of paper please!!:thumbup:

Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...

sounding 02-25-2023 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2191340)
Climate change is real.
In my 80+ years on this earth, it is a fact the weather has changed.
Winters are warmer, summers are definitely getting drier, and extremes of wind and rain are quite noticeable.
The trillion dollar question?
Is it man made?

All answers on a separate piece of paper please!!:thumbup:

And then there's snow on the beach -- at where ??? ... https://twitter.com/TonyClimate/stat...01830151979010

Bill14564 02-25-2023 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191434)
Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...

That's great news! For the past couple of years we've been reading about the droughts in the west, the Colorado river running slow, the reservoir level dropping, the Mississippi being low, ski resorts closing in Switzerland due to lack of snow, and ice fishing in New England in jeopardy due to lack of ice. In my personal experience I remember feet of snow in my backyard about 45 years ago but recently only one or two storms with less than 4 inches of snow. It is tremendously good to hear that all that is fake news!

Windguy 02-25-2023 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loweglor (Post 2191339)
No data to support global warming. Seriously? I'm curious as to where you get your info. Get over your fear of the term "global warming" and do some real research. Compare the ice caps 100 years ago to today and then look at how quickly they have melted in a shorter period of time in history. Just because you deny global warming doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Don’t waste your time on these brainwashed idiots who watch their favorite propaganda station all the time. They don’t even know the difference between climate and weather and they’ve been fooled into thinking the fossil-fuel industry is less biased than people who have dedicated their lives to understanding climate. I can’t believe they actually think scientists have more to gain than the fossil-fuel industry.

sounding 02-25-2023 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191445)
That's great news! For the past couple of years we've been reading about the droughts in the west, the Colorado river running slow, the reservoir level dropping, the Mississippi being low, ski resorts closing in Switzerland due to lack of snow, and ice fishing in New England in jeopardy due to lack of ice. In my personal experience I remember feet of snow in my backyard about 45 years ago but recently only one or two storms with less than 4 inches of snow. It is tremendously good to hear that all that is fake news!

And there's the problem. People now talk about the WEST, when in reality, and climatologically, it is still the DESERT Southwest. Why are the lakes lowering ever faster ... any why are more people watering lawns in the middle of Deserts? And regarding less snow, etc ... well of course ... because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age. Get used to it. In the meantime, as the earth gets warmer, the air can hold more moisture -- and that's why, on a global scale, the climate is wetter. This is all in the climate history literature, which the media purposely avoids.

Bill14564 02-25-2023 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191462)
And there's the problem. People now talk about the WEST, when in reality, and climatologically, it is still the DESERT Southwest. Why are the lakes lowering ever faster ... any why are more people watering lawns in the middle of Deserts? And regarding less snow, etc ... well of course ... because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age. Get used to it. In the meantime, as the earth gets warmer, the air can hold more moisture -- and that's why, on a global scale, the climate is wetter. This is all in the climate history literature, which the media purposely avoids.

??? Climate is wetter because the earth is warmer which is why there is less snow during the cooling trend as we are thawing out. Do YOU even believe what you write???

sounding 02-25-2023 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191464)
??? Climate is wetter because the earth is warmer which is why there is less snow during the cooling trend as we are thawing out. Do YOU even believe what you write???

Yes, the "cooling" should have been worded "warming" ... it was chilly this morning ... and of course it was cooler than what was forecast. But, don't forget the current 7-year cooling trend, which San Francisco can attest to, as they just broke a 100-year cold record ... Cold San Francisco Sets New Record Low for Temperature – NBC Bay Area

Escape Artist 02-25-2023 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

I’m grateful for the winter weather this year, only a couple of nights near frost or freeze temps and a few windy/or cold days. The first winter I was here (last year) it was VERY cold and we had more rain than I expected for the “dry season”. People told me last year was unusual as it was one of the coldest winters they remembered in TV. The NOAA predictions had borne that out with their own model for Florida that year which had predicted a cold winter.

Temperatures, we are told, are not an indicator of climate change, hence changing the name of their theory from global warming to cc. Yet that hasn’t stopped climate alarmists pointing to severe or unusual weather in any season as proof.

Bill14564 02-25-2023 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191473)
Yes, the "cooling" should have been worded "warming" ... it was chilly this morning ... and of course it was cooler than what was forecast. But, don't forget the current 7-year cooling trend, which San Francisco can attest to, as they just broke a 100-year cold record ... Cold San Francisco Sets New Record Low for Temperature – NBC Bay Area

Another bogus claim that has been widely debunked.

Temperature graph misrepresented to deny climate change | AP News

Viral Tweet Misrepresents NOAA Report on Rising Global Temperature | FactCheck.org

2022 was world’s 6th-warmest year on record | NOAA

Climate deniers share cherry-picked data to falsely claim planet is cooling | RumorGaurd.org

And also post #67 on the other thread.

Carlsondm 02-25-2023 04:02 PM

You are mistaking weather data for climate data. They are different critters.

Weather prediction is not an exact science. I personally find the predictions useful. Sometimes they are hilarious (wind chill warnings), but I laugh and really appreciate those meteorologists and weather reporters during hurricane season.

sounding 02-25-2023 04:04 PM

If you truly believe "Man" is causing global warming, then tell me ... how much has "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year?

Bill14564 02-25-2023 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191496)
If you truly believe "Man" is causing global warming, then tell me ... how much has "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year?

Argue that point in another thread. The links in the post you responded to simply show that the claim of a 7-year cooling trend is BS.

Vermilion Villager 02-25-2023 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191288)
Does your thermometer meet the NOAA siting standards ... in a proper shelter (or shade), about 5 feet above ground, at least 100 feet from pavement & buildings, and away from other obstructions like trees, fences etc ... Site and Exposure Standards

Hmmm.........Isn't this the same NOAA that you continually bash because they believe in....wait for it....
CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!!!!

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2190877)
Verification data? For a weather report?!!

In some people's minds, it is more important than a crime report with the number of murders.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190880)
Exactly right. That's called quality control. Otherwise they could lie all day long and no one would know the difference -- just like today's busted forecast -- which the news failed to report. Notice how much more these days they are forecasting record breaking temperatures. That was rare years ago. My mentor said never publicly forecast a record anything -- unless you have a proven track record -- otherwise you achieve a credibility problem.

Was that mentor a professor of mass insignificance?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:16 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.