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nn0wheremann 03-22-2023 09:40 AM

Buena Vista Expressway
 
In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

VApeople 03-22-2023 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2200250)
the wreck at 466A

So was there another accident at the Buena Vista and 466A intersection?

Keefelane66 03-22-2023 10:04 AM

Yes it’s not unusual vehicles traveling maybe 55 mph St James Circle to 466A light. I experience it 2 or 3 times a week. And, the same 466A to St James Circle. I’ve accepted to be the norm.

JP 03-22-2023 10:11 AM

I go the speed limit in the right lane and don't think or worry about what other people are doing. Just try to avoid the insanity.

JohnN 03-22-2023 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2200250)
Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

good luck on that one

Chi-Town 03-22-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2200250)
In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

Buena Vista does have a couple of southbound "express lanes" between Lake Sumter and 466A. Can pick up speed there.

NotGolfer 03-22-2023 11:11 AM

In observing traffic going south on Morse after L.S. the other day, I mentioned to my S.O. how cars here, reminded me of when we'd travel through Chicago back in the day. In all the years we've lived here I don't think those 1st years 13* ago were like they are today. Many folks are moving here from metro areas where speeds like this are common. I agree people NEED to slow down!! Wish the Sheriff's department would begin issuing tickets once again.

VApeople 03-22-2023 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 2200275)
I go the speed limit in the right lane

I go the speed limit in both lanes. It does not bother me if other people choose to drive faster.

Ndomines 03-22-2023 11:50 AM

Not to worry. Soon the seasonal residents will head out. Things will slow down and the construction vehicles will once again rule the roads.

fdpaq0580 03-22-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 2200296)
I Wish the Sheriff's department would begin issuing tickets once again.

Agree! They are missing a great opportunity for big money.

shut the front door 03-22-2023 12:03 PM

What brand of radar gun did these people buy that enables them to know how fast other cars are going?

mlmarr 03-23-2023 04:14 AM

Welcome to snowbird season plus new residents plus worker bees..

Nucky 03-23-2023 05:11 AM

You can want it, you can wish for it, you can pray for it, you can stand on your head and spit chicklets, the way people drive in the south in general and the way they operate in The Villages is never going to change. All you can do is strive not to be part of the problem. Every person in our community is the best of the best on the road. Just ask them.

I use my directionals on every maneuver in a roundabout. There is no doubt about my intentions. That being said even though I get an A+ for the effort I commend the people who wait for me to complete my next move and do not trust the blinkers because you can't trust the other person's blinkers down yonder, they often forget to turn them off. You can't be distracted for a split section around here. No heavy arguments or discussions while behind the wheel. NOBODY WILL CHANGE THEIR WAY OF DRIVING EVER.

I have a three million mile safe driving award from when I was a YOUNG MAN. I have more miles in reverse backing up any flavor truck imaginable and yet I readily admit that my driving skills have deteriorated. I don't have the cat like skills that I once did.

I'm the guy in the right lane doing the speed limit and getting the finger once in a while. I don't care. If you honk at me when I don't take off after waiting for a light to turn green like a Pro Stock Driver then we're going to have to sit there for a bit to get you good and heated up. If you get so heated that you choose to get out of your car to discipline me it won't be good. I have changed a lot. I'm Florida Chilled Out but don't push me. I'm retired and left my home with at least a 15-minute grace period to get to my destination safely.

If the OP does change someone else's speeding habits drop us a line and let us all know how you did it. Take Care and good luck.

Worldseries27 03-23-2023 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2200250)
in chicago the high speed roads are designated as expressways, like the dan ryan or the kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, buena vista blvd ought to be renamed buena vista expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching lake sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466a all the way to st. Charles at the st. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

old spring breakers on the rampage

Get real 03-23-2023 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2200304)
I go the speed limit in both lanes. It does not bother me if other people choose to drive faster.

and you would be breaking the law too.

terryf484 03-23-2023 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2200313)
What brand of radar gun did these people buy that enables them to know how fast other cars are going?

Doesn't take rocket science to tell when cars go by you like your standing still!! Thought we come here to retire and relax and take it easy.

bark4me 03-23-2023 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2200250)
In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

Just curious. Which speed enforcement device were you using? If radar, where you un moving mode or stationary mode? Did you have visual tracking history? Perhaps it was laser. What was the distance when you obtained your reading and at how many feet away? When did you last have your device certified?

golfing eagles 03-23-2023 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by terryf484 (Post 2200498)
Doesn't take rocket science to tell when cars go by you like your standing still!! Thought we come here to retire and relax and take it easy.

Depends. Are you going 15 mph???

rsmurano 03-23-2023 07:32 AM

It doesn’t matter if someone uses their turn signals in a roundabout if they are not going to abide by the roundabout rules. I had a plumbers truck in the inside lane coming into a roundabout to my left and he almost hit me making a right on the 1st exit, which is against the rules. I called the company and reported their driver and they were going to speak to him.
Months ago, I made a comment that the snowbirds are here, the average age just went up and the avg mph on the streets just got lowered by 10mph.

Bilyclub 03-23-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2200313)
What brand of radar gun did these people buy that enables them to know how fast other cars are going?

Radar hasn't been around in traffic enforcement for many years. It's now Lidar and it's better and safer for the user. Though being TV they might have a vascar setup.

VApeople 03-23-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2200537)
I had a plumbers truck in the inside lane coming into a roundabout to my left and he almost hit me making a right on the 1st exit, which is against the rules.

I had that happen to me a few years ago and I was really shocked. Then it happened two more times in the few weeks.

I don't like the phrase "drive defensively" because it sounds like we should always be in fear of something happening. I prefer something like "drive alertly" and always be prepared for the other drivers to do something stupid.

marianne237 03-23-2023 07:59 AM

Ever notice that turn signals quit working after you cross the Georgia/Florida state line?

Limey 03-23-2023 08:00 AM

If you are doing the speed limit anywhere in The Villages, you are probably going to get run over along with a few one finger salutes. Until the PD start issuing tickets it's only going to get worse.

shut the front door 03-23-2023 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2200526)
Depends. Are you going 15 mph???

I'm sure he's capable of doing more than 15. He's the one doing 25 in a 35 in the left lane. :a20:

VApeople 03-23-2023 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Limey (Post 2200565)
If you are doing the speed limit anywhere in The Villages, you are probably going to get run over along with a few one finger salutes.

I drive the speed limit and I ain't never had a problem.

flash4353 03-23-2023 08:57 AM

Driving tips
 
Who would have ever thought that a driver from Chicago would be giving safe driving tips. Next thing you know he'll be talking about the Bears going to the Super Bowl.

nn0wheremann 03-23-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2200551)
I had that happen to me a few years ago and I was really shocked. Then it happened two more times in the few weeks.

I don't like the phrase "drive defensively" because it sounds like we should always be in fear of something happening. I prefer something like "drive alertly" and always be prepared for the other drivers to do something stupid.

Drive like everyone else is a homicidal maniac having a bad day.

nn0wheremann 03-23-2023 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by flash4353 (Post 2200588)
Who would have ever thought that a driver from Chicago would be giving safe driving tips. Next thing you know he'll be talking about the Bears going to the Super Bowl.

Expressway traffic in Chicago tends to be very safe an polite. If one drives like a Bozo, one is likely to be followed down the exit and “admonished.” Chicago drivers, being the spiritual lot that they are, understand that admonishing the transgressor is a spiritual work of mercy. Provides a good living for the ambulance and ER crews too. :)

Velvet 03-23-2023 09:13 AM

Well, up north there are speed bumps to calm traffic. Here I just tuck myself behind the best driver and figure if someone’s going to get the ticket they’ll be first.

shut the front door 03-23-2023 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2200598)
Well, up north there are speed bumps to calm traffic. Here I just tuck myself behind the best driver and figure if someone’s going to get the ticket they’ll be first.

Whew, for a while I thought you were stalking me! :loco:

Bill14564 03-23-2023 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by marianne237 (Post 2200561)
Ever notice that turn signals quit working after you cross the Georgia/Florida state line?

Going which direction? I haven't noticed much of a difference anywhere on the east coast.

Jokomo 03-23-2023 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2200250)
In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

fdpaq0580 03-23-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bark4me (Post 2200517)
Just curious. Which speed enforcement device were you using? If radar, where you un moving mode or stationary mode? Did you have visual tracking history? Perhaps it was laser. What was the distance when you obtained your reading and at how many feet away? When did you last have your device certified?

I use the Guessomatic 3500 from Whatcha Think?.Inc, LLC. I'm right every time.

Pamelah 03-23-2023 01:36 PM

Bang!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jokomo (Post 2200616)
The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

You forget there’s a bunch of idiots packin’ guns. You might be slowing one down, really tick him off, next thing you know there’ll be a shoot out.

Velvet 03-23-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pamelah (Post 2200685)
You forget there’s a bunch of idiots packin’ guns. You might be slowing one down, really tick him off, next thing you know there’ll be a shoot out.

Oh goodie! Finally, the police might get involved….

charmed59 03-23-2023 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jokomo (Post 2200616)
The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

I don’t understand what this would accomplish. Sure, for the time these blockades are on the road the traffic behind them will be going the speed limit. But what about the traffic in front of them? What about the traffic on the bypasses? How do you find enough volunteers to run this 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You understand as soon as one car of the blockade pulls off all traffic goes back to normal. It will annoy people. I can’t imagine anyone would run into this and think “hey, I’ll start driving the speed limit.”

I don’t have a problem with people driving the speed limit or slower. I fine with people are driving the speed they are comfortable driving. And I am confident that there is no way I can control how other people drive. I like to drive assuming everyone drives like my late grandfather. If they do better I find it a lovely surprise.

JMintzer 03-23-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pamelah (Post 2200685)
You forget there’s a bunch of idiots packin’ guns. You might be slowing one down, really tick him off, next thing you know there’ll be a shoot out.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 03-23-2023 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jokomo (Post 2200616)
The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

In which case you could be cited for obstructing traffic and failure to move right when another vehicle wants to pass you. And here's a side question----who appointed you the enforcer of speed limits??????

Michael 61 03-23-2023 05:15 PM

I’ve noticed since moving here how many people flaunt speed limits — and I’m talking 20-30 even more mph over limit. I’m sure it happens, but I have yet to see any motorists pulled over by police. Police presence would be a major deterrent to speeders. Also, it would be a financial windfall for the counties if they got strict with ticketing speeders.

tuccillo 03-23-2023 06:45 PM

Bad idea, for more reasons than I care to expand upon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jokomo (Post 2200616)
The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.



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