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BrianL99 04-23-2023 02:08 PM

Stereotyping & trolling
 
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

retiredguy123 04-23-2023 02:28 PM

Two years ago, a Target store in Minneapolis was destroyed and looted by dozens of people. The only description of the looters that I heard the media use was that they were "juveniles". I guess they were afraid to be more descriptive.

Garywt 04-23-2023 03:00 PM

There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.

JMintzer 04-23-2023 03:48 PM

But look how CNN reports different incidents...

Apparently, one is a racial crime, the other is not...

The White homeowner accused of shooting a Black teen who rang his doorbell turns himself in and is released on bail | CNN

Charlotte, North Carolina: Suspect who allegedly shot 6-year-old neighbor and her parents apprehended in Florida | CNN

tophcfa 04-23-2023 04:28 PM

Our son in law works for one of the hoity toity Ivy league colleges up north and can’t refer to anyone by anything that implies gender, so he refers to his employees as team members. He once referred to his group of employees as y’all, figuring that is gender neutral and wouldn’t offend anyone. An employee filed a complaint with Human Resources because y’all is considered a southern term and therefore supports slavery? WTF, it’s getting to the point where people are afraid to speak! It must really suck trying to be a comedian these days, all you can do is make fun of yourself.

billethkid 04-23-2023 04:58 PM

more dog allowing the tail to wag the body BS!

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Number 10 GI 04-23-2023 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2210591)
There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.

I was a Master Sergeant in the Army. The Navy has a Master Chief Petty Officer; Air Force has a Senior Master Sergeant and a Chief Master Sergeant; the Marine Corps has a Master Sergeant and a Master Gunnery Sergeant.

Villagesgal 04-24-2023 04:51 AM

I believe the change to primary bedroom has more to do with the fact that more single women are buying homes and master refers to a man who is in charge, in this case of his family and that was his room, in his house. The term master was used in the military well before slavery.

Blackbird45 04-24-2023 04:58 AM

I know people find some words offensive. To me words are just that words, it more how they are used. But as society changes so does everything else, clothes, hair style and words. In the future do not be surprised a Jewish bagel will become an ethnic donut.

mdmurrell 04-24-2023 05:05 AM

Cancel Culture and Passivity
 
This is a great topic. Here we live in the most successful retirement community and fastest growing county in the United States populated by some of the most successful people in the country; are we really going to knuckle under to the insane norms of the PC language norms? At this age, I really could care less if someone is offended by my language provided that I speak with familiar terms that identify people that are not intended to be disrespectful. I won't encourage PC by bowing down to it. The Cancel Culture is destroying our traditional American values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "Y"ll have a great American Day".

Worldseries27 04-24-2023 05:32 AM

America is deciding the issues with it's pocketbook
 
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Originally Posted by mdmurrell (Post 2210678)
this is a great topic. Here we live in the most successful retirement community and fastest growing county in the united states populated by some of the most successful people in the country; are we really going to knuckle under to the insane norms of the pc language norms? At this age, i really could care less if someone is offended by my language provided that i speak with familiar terms that identify people that are not intended to be disrespectful. I won't encourage pc by bowing down to it. The cancel culture is destroying our traditional american values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "y"ll have a great american day".

if you attack the corporate bottom line, you get their attention.

midiwiz 04-24-2023 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2210567)
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.


The direction allthis is headed is a result of the long standing American necessity of nice what was called politically correct or as I call it lying. As i compare my old dictionary (I'm glad I kept it) to what is online today in webster etc.... they have changed definitions in many things to (IMHO) back up the rhetoric that is being thrown at us.

I think the cancel culture, gender pronouns, and such are nothing more than a generation that can't cope with life. Spoiled and entitled, their parents are the ones to blame for all this nonsense. History is history, embrace it as that history is what made this country what it is today, erase it and you are telling me you have zero respect for everything within our borders no matter what it is.

While all this can easily be stopped, Americans as a whole say a lot but don't back it up - note the last 2 elections..... embarassing

Bridget Staunton 04-24-2023 06:34 AM

Garywt: reading your post I thought my hubby was talking to me & I to him. You are right on respect others, history is history cannot erase it be it right or wrong. Must stay on the books & teach our children. I was born in a country where slavery rampart, famine imposed by another country lost millions of people including my own relatives. But we must move on because it’s history and hopefully learned from it. “What goes around comes around” or “the law of cause & affect”

TomSwango 04-24-2023 06:40 AM

Reminds me of a quote from Jean Paul Sartre
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2210567)
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

"Only rhe guy who is not rowing has time to rock the boat" Jean Paul Sartre

perrjojo 04-24-2023 06:44 AM

I think the point the OP was making is that Snowbird, Yankee and Notherner may be derogatory terms yet we use them freely here in TV. Being a Southern girl I use the terms as terms of endearment and sometimes as a derogatory term.

RICH1 04-24-2023 06:55 AM

I used to like the nicknames that we had for ethnic groups… made things easier on the job site …I really miss those days.. work ethics & ethnics were the backbone of this country … now we have neither

joelfmi 04-24-2023 07:00 AM

The media's bias problem affects more than just CNN, and many Americans have caught on. According to a new Gallup study, 86 percent of Americans believe media outlets are politically biased, with 56 percent of Americans saying their own go-to news source has "a great deal" or "a fair amount" of bias. Maybe this helps explain why a record 33 percent of Americans in 2020 put no trust at all in media. There's two ways for cable news to drive a politician out of office. One is to fairly report on a corrupt politician's egregious abuses of the responsibility voters have placed in them. For example, CNN anchor Chris Cuomo could have asked his brother, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, why he was forcing elderly people with COVID into nursing homes which was agreaves. mass media to report the news fairly and accurately -- up from 28 percent only the year before.

GizmoWhiskers 04-24-2023 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2210567)
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

Lol this thread is doomed from "hello." - Oh wait, maybe it's just infraction clickbait for some on TOTV.

Bay Kid 04-24-2023 07:10 AM

Heck, look at the Washington Redskins. Who did that offend, not any Indians that I know. I now call them the Washington Pacifiers.

airstreamingypsy 04-24-2023 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mdmurrell (Post 2210678)
The Cancel Culture is destroying our traditional American values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "Y"ll have a great American Day".

Hahahahahaha, "Bud Lite" anyone?

airstreamingypsy 04-24-2023 07:20 AM

I was amazed when the judge, in the Rittenhouse case, wouldn't let the prosecutors use the word "victim" referring to the people he shot.

airstreamingypsy 04-24-2023 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2210576)
Two years ago, a Target store in Minneapolis was destroyed and looted by dozens of people. The only description of the looters that I heard the media use was that they were "juveniles". I guess they were afraid to be more descriptive.

1st reply, that didn't take long.

Whitley 04-24-2023 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2210676)
I know people find some words offensive. To me words are just that words, it more how they are used. But as society changes so does everything else, clothes, hair style and words. In the future do not be surprised a Jewish bagel will become an ethnic donut.

Bagels have a religion? Learned my fact for the day. Did you hear the joke about the man who was speaking to the priest about holding a funeral service for his dog?

mikeycereal 04-24-2023 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2210724)
Heck, look at the Washington Redskins. Who did that offend, not any Indians that I know. I now call them the Washington Pacifiers.

Sad. I always thought that was a great classic logo. The new W is just so safe and sterile.

Redskin or snowbird aren't offensive unless you say it to someone with $#@! in front of it. :duck:

MAXFLY 04-24-2023 07:58 AM

Some people don't think it be like it is, but it do.

Joe C. 04-24-2023 08:00 AM

It's up to us (the silent majority) to stand up and fight back. I have no problem saying what I want. If I offend someone and they tell me, then I apologize ....I don't do it intentionally, but if someone gets offended, I tell them that they need to get some thick skin.
I refuse to give in to the PC and WOKE crowd. I say what I want to say and speak my mind. As for the gender/pronoun issue, it doesn't exist for me. Male is male and female is female. If you are one and want to be the other then just don't be in my face about it.
The current PC culture no longer wants us to accept the LBGTQrstuv people, the want us to worship them.
I'm proud to be anti-PC and will be that way till my last breath.

Vermilion Villager 04-24-2023 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2210576)
Two years ago, a Target store in Minneapolis was destroyed and looted by dozens of people. The only description of the looters that I heard the media use was that they were "juveniles". I guess they were afraid to be more descriptive.

They mostly were juveniles. If you disagree please tell us how you would better "describe" them? :bowdown:

JMintzer 04-24-2023 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2210676)
I know people find some words offensive. To me words are just that words, it more how they are used. But as society changes so does everything else, clothes, hair style and words. In the future do not be surprised a Jewish bagel will become an ethnic donut.

Wait, there are other kind's of bagels? :p

JMintzer 04-24-2023 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 2210713)
I think the point the OP was making is that Snowbird, Yankee and Notherner may be derogatory terms yet we use them freely here in TV. Being a Southern girl I use the terms as terms of endearment and sometimes as a derogatory term.

Well, Bless your heart... :icon_wink:

Bill14564 04-24-2023 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 2210765)
It's up to us (the silent majority) to stand up and fight back. I have no problem saying what I want. If I offend someone and they tell me, then I apologize ....I don't do it intentionally, but if someone gets offended, I tell them that they need to get some thick skin.
I refuse to give in to the PC and WOKE crowd. I say what I want to say and speak my mind. As for the gender/pronoun issue, it doesn't exist for me. Male is male and female is female. If you are one and want to be the other then just don't be in my face about it.
The current PC culture no longer wants us to accept the LBGTQrstuv people, the want us to worship them.
I'm proud to be anti-PC and will be that way till my last breath.

The rest of your post contradicts that statement.

Vermilion Villager 04-24-2023 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdmurrell (Post 2210678)
This is a great topic. Here we live in the most successful retirement community and fastest growing county in the United States populated by some of the most successful people in the country; are we really going to knuckle under to the insane norms of the PC language norms? At this age, I really could care less if someone is offended by my language provided that I speak with familiar terms that identify people that are not intended to be disrespectful. I won't encourage PC by bowing down to it. The Cancel Culture is destroying our traditional American values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "Y"ll have a great American Day".

Wa-Alaikum-Salaam:beer3:

Tobys Dad 04-24-2023 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2210591)
There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.

You nailed it, bravo!

Kelevision 04-24-2023 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2210567)
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

Both my neighbors are snowbirds and introduced themselves as snowbirds, which is how I know.

jparsoneau@aol.com 04-24-2023 09:25 AM

So I am a landlord, have rentals in Oregon, and in Florida now.
And I have been told that I am no Lord of no lands. And that the name landlord should be changed.
Just a bunch of absolute nonsense everybody trying to reinvent the wheel to go round and round again

Pennyt 04-24-2023 09:29 AM

That's all comedians should do...make fun of themselves. I never thought jokes made at the expense of others was humorous. I remember a clown at Sea World who would walk behind people and make fun of the way they looked, the way they walked, etc. Some in the audience laughed but it made me very uncomfortable and I thought it was cruel.

dewilson58 04-24-2023 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jparsoneau@aol.com (Post 2210839)
So I am a landlord, have rentals in Oregon, and in Florida now.
And I have been told that I am no Lord of no lands. And that the name landlord should be changed.
Just a bunch of absolute nonsense everybody trying to reinvent the wheel to go round and round again

You are still the Master of Your Domain.

MisterPratt 04-24-2023 09:36 AM

Could it be we are evolving as a nation? Think of the words that were common place years ago. Colored became black to Afro-American. Miss, Mrs. became Ms. White has become Euro-American. More diversity in advertising, etc. the list goes on and on. There was a time blacks and females weren’t permitted to vote. One can only guess what was being talked about when these changes were taking place. As Bob Dylan wrote, “these times they are a changin.” Each generation goes through it. As example, your parents yelled to you to turn that music down, how can you listen to that garbage. Now, the parents today complain about their kids music.

Geodyssey 04-24-2023 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2210576)
Two years ago, a Target store in Minneapolis was destroyed and looted by dozens of people. The only description of the looters that I heard the media use was that they were "juveniles". I guess they were afraid to be more descriptive.

Everyone knows who it was. Same thing happening daily in many large US cities.

Demographics is destiny.

nn0wheremann 04-24-2023 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2210567)
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

To be correct in all you say nowadays, you must adhere to a vow of silence, or limit discourse to “Hey, hozabout dem Cubs”.

JMintzer 04-24-2023 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2210841)
You are still the Master of Your Domain.

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