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MFinn 05-19-2023 04:51 PM

S Corp. and personal tax accountant needed
 
I moved from Ohio last year and have an S Corp that I have transferred to Florida. I am looking for an accountant that can prepare 2022 taxes, corporate and personal, (extension received) Ideally I would like this to be a long term professional relationship. Many thanks.

Stu from NYC 05-19-2023 06:18 PM

We moved here from Va in 2020 and found it easy to continue working with our CPA there and still doing so.

MFinn 05-20-2023 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2219255)
We moved here from Va in 2020 and found it easy to continue working with our CPA there and still doing so.

Thank you Stu, I wish I were able to do so. My past accountant retired, and his replacement - a senior partner in the recently purchased firm, botched the next two years of returns. I really need someone new in Florida.

retiredguy123 05-20-2023 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MFinn (Post 2219282)
Thank you Stu, I wish I were able to do so. My past accountant retired, and his replacement - a senior partner in the recently purchased firm, botched the next two years of returns. I really need someone new in Florida.

Many years ago, I hired a CPA when I first started a business. What a mistake and a waste of money! He charged too much, added no value to the business, and botched the tax returns. Since then, I do everything myself, and use TurboTax to prepare my tax returns. An S corporation is no big deal. You may want to try doing it yourself.

CoachKandSportsguy 05-20-2023 07:09 AM

I just don't understand how a "quality" cap can botch a small corp tax return. . I know several and they are very very good, and some of them will also validate fraudulent documents if asked with a big enough account . .

Babubhat 05-20-2023 08:15 AM

Find a a CPA that has at least a masters degree in taxation. It matters.

Stu from NYC 05-20-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2219325)
I just don't understand how a "quality" cap can botch a small corp tax return. . I know several and they are very very good, and some of them will also validate fraudulent documents if asked with a big enough account . .

Taxes should be pretty straight forward but changes are made year to year and I would rather pay our cpa than keep up with it.

Find it funny that CPA's are either auditors or tax accountants and both sides hate the other. Our daughter is a CPA and hates taxes but started doing her own when their kids outgrew their nanny and handling taxes got simplified.

CoachKandSportsguy 05-20-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2219410)
Taxes should be pretty straight forward but changes are made year to year and I would rather pay our cpa than keep up with it.

Find it funny that CPA's are either auditors or tax accountants and both sides hate the other. Our daughter is a CPA and hates taxes but started doing her own when their kids outgrew their nanny and handling taxes got simplified.

Tax and tax law is a specialty, auditors are just box checkers, they know how all the account boxes work together. Corporate tax is a bit different than individual tax specialties, and the specialty knows how to minimize taxes within the huge set of exception rules.

remember that tax accountants are just paperwork completers and cost minimization experts with the use of tax exceptions. .

and nobody picked upon the CPA firm I know who would agree to representing fraudulent paperwork?

retiredguy123 05-20-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2219430)
Tax and tax law is a specialty, auditors are just box checkers, they know how all the account boxes work together. Corporate tax is a bit different than individual tax specialties, and the specialty knows how to minimize taxes within the huge set of exception rules.

remember that tax accountants are just paperwork completers and cost minimization experts with the use of tax exceptions. .

and nobody picked upon the CPA firm I know who would agree to representing fraudulent paperwork?

I picked up on it, but I would not be interested in preparing fraudulent documents. I think most CPAs know their stuff, but I think some of them rely too much on non-professionals that they hire to do most of the work on smaller accounts. If you hire a CPA, I would suggest that you ask them questions about the product they produce for you to ensure that they actually participated in producing it.

Stu from NYC 05-20-2023 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2219430)
Tax and tax law is a specialty, auditors are just box checkers, they know how all the account boxes work together. Corporate tax is a bit different than individual tax specialties, and the specialty knows how to minimize taxes within the huge set of exception rules.

remember that tax accountants are just paperwork completers and cost minimization experts with the use of tax exceptions. .

and nobody picked upon the CPA firm I know who would agree to representing fraudulent paperwork?

Better not tell my daughter that she is just a box checker.

MFinn 05-20-2023 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2219322)
Many years ago, I hired a CPA when I first started a business. What a mistake and a waste of money! He charged too much, added no value to the business, and botched the tax returns. Since then, I do everything myself, and use TurboTax to prepare my tax returns. An S corporation is no big deal. You may want to try doing it yourself.

I appreciate that, and I tried, but but it’s too complicated.

JGVillages 05-20-2023 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MFinn (Post 2219239)
I moved from Ohio last year and have an S Corp that I have transferred to Florida. I am looking for an accountant that can prepare 2022 taxes, corporate and personal, (extension received) Ideally I would like this to be a long term professional relationship. Many thanks.

So far I haven’t seen any local CPA recommendations so here is one I use. Mark Murphy CPA / 407-670-4289 /memurphycpa@gmail.com.

MFinn 05-20-2023 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2219325)
I just don't understand how a "quality" cap can botch a small corp tax return. . I know several and they are very very good, and some of them will also validate fraudulent documents if asked with a big enough account . .

One would think, given the amount of money I paid, that he would not botch it, but he did. Two years in a row. If you have several very very good people, please share and I would be happy to reach out to them. I am not interested in fraudsters.

MFinn 05-20-2023 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 2219448)
So far I haven’t seen any local CPA recommendations so here is one I use. Mark Murphy CPA / 407-670-4289 /memurphycpa@gmail.com.

Thank you, I sent Mark Murphy an email earlier but have not yet heard back. I will call on Monday if I do not hear back. Best regards.

Badger 2006 05-20-2023 05:21 PM

Best to text him

MFinn 05-20-2023 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Badger 2006 (Post 2219468)
Best to text him

Will do, thanks Badger.

jimbo2012 05-21-2023 05:12 AM

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TStVillages 05-21-2023 05:30 AM

Gwynne Lewis, CPA, LLC
P.O. Box 2470
Belleview, FL 34421
352.877.4186 phone
352.600.0544 fax

jmpalladino 05-21-2023 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2219430)
Tax and tax law is a specialty, auditors are just box checkers, they know how all the account boxes work together. Corporate tax is a bit different than individual tax specialties, and the specialty knows how to minimize taxes within the huge set of exception rules.



remember that tax accountants are just paperwork completers and cost minimization experts with the use of tax exceptions. .

and nobody picked upon the CPA firm I know who would agree to representing fraudulent paperwork?

This reply makes no sense. What are you trying to say? Maybe just stick to sports when responding.

Judy n Ron 05-21-2023 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MFinn (Post 2219239)
I moved from Ohio last year and have an S Corp that I have transferred to Florida. I am looking for an accountant that can prepare 2022 taxes, corporate and personal, (extension received) Ideally I would like this to be a long term professional relationship. Many thanks.

We recommend Swart, Baumruk located in Kissimmee FL. They did our personal and corporate taxes for over 20 years. Can do everything remotely. Top notch.

MFinn 05-21-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TStVillages (Post 2219527)
Gwynne Lewis, CPA, LLC
P.O. Box 2470
Belleview, FL 34421
352.877.4186 phone
352.600.0544 fax

Thank you very much!

MFinn 05-21-2023 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Judy n Ron (Post 2219542)
We recommend Swart, Baumruk located in Kissimmee FL. They did our personal and corporate taxes for over 20 years. Can do everything remotely. Top notch.

Thank you very much Judy n Ron!

Sgt Ed 05-21-2023 07:12 AM

Accountant needed
 
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Originally Posted by MFinn (Post 2219239)
I moved from Ohio last year and have an S Corp that I have transferred to Florida. I am looking for an accountant that can prepare 2022 taxes, corporate and personal, (extension received) Ideally I would like this to be a long term professional relationship. Many thanks.

If you have a Corp. You are REQUIRED to have a CPA. An accountant is not an Officer of the Court.

dewilson58 05-21-2023 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sgt Ed (Post 2219563)
If you have a Corp. You are REQUIRED to have a CPA. An accountant is not an Officer of the Court.

Fake News.

Not REQUIRED.

:oops:

jwwbmw 05-21-2023 07:19 AM

We used Cheryl Pelott from Dugan & Joyner Associates in Ocala. We were pleased. We also have an LLC and moved from another state. We got her name from another person with similar situation as ours.

CoachKandSportsguy 05-21-2023 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jmpalladino (Post 2219532)
This reply makes no sense. What are you trying to say? Maybe just stick to sports when responding.

you must be new here. .

Stu from NYC 05-21-2023 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sgt Ed (Post 2219563)
If you have a Corp. You are REQUIRED to have a CPA. An accountant is not an Officer of the Court.

Where in the world did you get that idea from?

Haggar 05-21-2023 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2219430)
Tax and tax law is a specialty, auditors are just box checkers, they know how all the account boxes work together. Corporate tax is a bit different than individual tax specialties, and the specialty knows how to minimize taxes within the huge set of exception rules.

remember that tax accountants are just paperwork completers and cost minimization experts with the use of tax exceptions. .

and nobody picked upon the CPA firm I know who would agree to representing fraudulent paperwork?

I'm a CPA specializing in small businesses.
You commented that most tax preparers are just paperwork completers. Probably true of H & R Blocks preparers and similar firms. BUT a good tax preparer knows the rules and regulations and laws that can benefit S Corp owners. The IRS is constantly updating their regs and interpretations of the laws. Seen too many returns self-prepared that are incomplete or leave off valuable tax deductions. And it goes beyond just the income tax law - recently in reviewing the "sales tax paid" by a client discovered he was paying too much sales tax by $1,000. Like they say you get what you pay for and paying a qualified and knowledgable tax preparer may save you money.

Medical insurance, home office expenses, pension plans (simple, SEP, IRA, 401 (k)) , mileage, etc - does the average self-preparer have any idea of all the deductions available?

retiredguy123 05-21-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Haggar (Post 2219591)
I'm a CPA specializing in small businesses.
You commented that most tax preparers are just paperwork completers. Probably true of H & R Blocks preparers and similar firms. BUT a good tax preparer knows the rules and regulations and laws that can benefit S Corp owners. The IRS is constantly updating their regs and interpretations of the laws. Seen too many returns self-prepared that are incomplete or leave off valuable tax deductions. And it goes beyond just the income tax law - recently in reviewing the "sales tax paid" by a client discovered he was paying too much sales tax by $1,000. Like they say you get what you pay for and paying a qualified and knowledgable tax preparer may save you money.

Medical insurance, home office expenses, pension plans (simple, SEP, IRA, 401 (k)) , mileage, etc - does the average self-preparer have any idea of all the deductions available?

Just a question. You didn't mention anything about TurboTax. I owned small businesses for many years and always depended on TurboTax to keep up with the new tax laws and to guide me through the legal deductions. Don't most CPAs use tax software when they prepare a tax return?

retiredguy123 05-21-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sgt Ed (Post 2219563)
If you have a Corp. You are REQUIRED to have a CPA. An accountant is not an Officer of the Court.

I operated a Type C corporation for years and prepared my own taxes and state documents. I would also point out that a CPA is a certification, not a license. You don't even need a college degree to be a CPA.

CoachKandSportsguy 05-21-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Haggar (Post 2219591)
I'm a CPA specializing in small businesses.
You commented that most tax preparers are just paperwork completers. Probably true of H & R Blocks preparers and similar firms. BUT a good tax preparer knows the rules and regulations and laws that can benefit S Corp owners. The IRS is constantly updating their regs and interpretations of the laws. Seen too many returns self-prepared that are incomplete or leave off valuable tax deductions. And it goes beyond just the income tax law - recently in reviewing the "sales tax paid" by a client discovered he was paying too much sales tax by $1,000. Like they say you get what you pay for and paying a qualified and knowledgable tax preparer may save you money.

Medical insurance, home office expenses, pension plans (simple, SEP, IRA, 401 (k)) , mileage, etc - does the average self-preparer have any idea of all the deductions available?


Haggar:

Thanks for your background!

So you will join Stu and I for dinner and theoretic discussions about stock buybacks?

so my personal distain for accountants is not for you to take personally, but for the difference between accounting and finance skillsets and impacts, which have completely different viewpoints on I/S, B/S and C/F statements, and the difference between what accountants do and what finance/financial planning/investment planning does. . . IYKYK

Please keep in mind my background:
Finance, corporate finance, m&a finance, international finance, (20 currencies at once) investments, operational finance, marketing finance with pricing models, IT database / datamart / database design for corporate finance reporting and basis for, data analytics for finance, model builder, corporate forecast model builder in several applications for many parts of corporate finance in many industries and accounting systems, current system accounts in GAAP, IFRS and FERC, most complex activity based costing system in the US as related by E&Y or one of the big firms. . and 40 years part time day trader in stocks and options. . .

so my personal distain for accountants is not for you to take personally, but for the difference between accounting limitations and finance skillsets and impacts, which have completely different viewpoints on I/S, B/S and C/F statements, and the difference between what accountants do and what finance/investments/ and finance does. . .

peace

dewilson58 05-21-2023 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2219602)
I operated a Type C corporation for years and prepared my own taxes and state documents. I would also point out that a CPA is a certification, not a license. You don't even need a college degree to be a CPA.

To practice in Florida, hold yourself out as..............don't you need a license???

Would love to see the non-degree CPA...........can't be many of them. :crap2:

dewilson58 05-21-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2219603)
Haggar:

peace

Can kinda c Haggar's concern about your public disdain (I think the word u r looking for).

Since the tread is about tax return prep, nothing to do with what you listed as your background (too long & wordy to list)...........seems Haggar's background is more suited.

:beer3:

Haggar 05-21-2023 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2219599)
Just a question. You didn't mention anything about TurboTax. I owned small businesses for many years and always depended on TurboTax to keep up with the new tax laws and to guide me through the legal deductions. Don't most CPAs use tax software when they prepare a tax return?

Can't speak for all CPA's but yes - the professional tax preparers all use tax software. The tax law - just the tax law - is over 40,000 pages. The complexity of all returns has made it necessary to use tax software because of all the interlocking calculations.

And yes - Turbo Tax is good at guiding you through the legal deductions. But the software - as an example - can't guide an owner of a s corp to get a home office deduction if it qualifies.
On Schedule C it's relatively easy to claim a home office deduction - but the S corp rules require a specific procedure to to be able to get a deduction (again if you qualify) and if you want to take the time.

Turbo tax doesn't go into the pension plan options - you can still contribute to some pension plans after 65, after you draw down on other plans and options.

retiredguy123 05-21-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2219613)
To practice in Florida, hold yourself out as..............don't you need a license???

Would love to see the non-degree CPA...........can't be many of them. :crap2:

You are correct. My bad. Apparently, you do need a Florida license to call yourself a CPA in Florida.

dewilson58 05-21-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2219621)
You are correct. My bad. Apparently, you do need a Florida license to call yourself a CPA in Florida.

No biggie.
At one time, I think there was an additional exam CPA's had to pass prior to putting a shingle out in Florida because there were too many old, non-current, CPA's retiring down here. Not sure if that was fact or fiction..........but probably a good idea.

:wave:

MFinn 05-21-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 2219523)

Thank you Jimbo2012!

MFinn 05-21-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TStVillages (Post 2219527)
Gwynne Lewis, CPA, LLC
P.O. Box 2470
Belleview, FL 34421
352.877.4186 phone
352.600.0544 fax

Thank you TStVillages!

Crateman 05-21-2023 09:38 AM

Cpa
 
I have used a company called Wells Business Solutions LLC. Very knowledgeable people, and reasonable priced. You can do the quarter things if you like, and they will fill in the rest. They will do business taxes, and personal taxes.
Wells Business Solutions LLC
217 N Apopa Ave.
Inverness, FL 34450
352 423-4290

MFinn 05-21-2023 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jwwbmw (Post 2219569)
We used Cheryl Pelott from Dugan & Joyner Associates in Ocala. We were pleased. We also have an LLC and moved from another state. We got her name from another person with similar situation as ours.

Thank you jwwbmw!


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