Talk of The Villages Florida
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, General Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/)
-   -   Villa being day leased to day workers (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/villa-being-day-leased-day-workers-341902/)

TEXJK 06-07-2023 07:38 PM
Villa being day leased to day workers
 
Hello,
Recently moved into the villages fantastic experience so far.
Question is it common practice for villas to be rented for a week or less to day workers? One currently rented to 6 non English speaking day workers.
What is the HOA policy for renting?
Thanks

BrianL99 06-07-2023 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEXJK (Post 2224387)
Hello,
Recently moved into the villages fantastic experience so far.
Question is it common practice for villas to be rented for a week or less to day workers? One currently rented to 6 non English speaking day workers.
What is the HOA policy for renting?
Thanks
The Villages does not have an HOA.

Most deeds would appear to prohibit daily renting, as it's a "business" per Florida Law.

Residents don't seem willing to step up to the plate and invest enough money to fight the daily rentals.

Bill14564 06-07-2023 08:09 PM
Would it be less of a problem if the renters spoke English?

Most deed restrictions do not prohibit rentals of any length of time. Renting is not the type of business prohibited in the restrictions.

TEXJK 06-07-2023 08:12 PM
HOA Rental policy’s
 
Hello,
Recently moved into the villages fantastic experience so far.
Question is it common practice for villas to be rented for a week or less to day workers? One currently rented to 6 non English speaking day workers.
What is the HOA policy for renting?
Thanks

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-07-2023 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEXJK (Post 2224394)
Hello,
Recently moved into the villages fantastic experience so far.
Question is it common practice for villas to be rented for a week or less to day workers? One currently rented to 6 non English speaking day workers.
What is the HOA policy for renting?
Thanks
How is it that you already moved in, and don't know that there is no HOA?

How do you know they're day workers?

Why did you feel it was important to mention that they don't speak English?

manaboutown 06-07-2023 08:26 PM
Based on the number of occupants they could be in violation of occupancy laws. I wonder if the landlord knows what is going on?

50 illegal immigrants were stashed in an ABQ apartment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuclXMKSpJs

BrianL99 06-08-2023 04:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2224391)
Would it be less of a problem if the renters spoke English?

Most deed restrictions do not prohibit rentals of any length of time. Renting is not the type of business prohibited in the restrictions.
I think that's a minority opinion.

Dotneko 06-08-2023 05:48 AM
Being trolled......

Bill14564 06-08-2023 05:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2224418)
I think that's a minority opinion.
That's okay; it doesn't matter whether it is a minority or majority opinion. What matters are the words in the deed restrictions, the words in Florida law, and the way both are enforced.

Kelevision 06-08-2023 06:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2224397)
Based on the number of occupants they could be in violation of occupancy laws. I wonder if the landlord knows what is going on?

50 illegal immigrants were stashed in an ABQ apartment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuclXMKSpJs
Well, those people weren’t paying rent. They were kidnapped and held hostage for ransom. Then they were rescued.

JGibson 06-08-2023 06:59 AM
I would’ve believed the post if you didn't put in the non-English speaking bit.

The Villa next to me has turned into a monthly rental. I’ve seen in 4 months 4 different sets of renters.

The Owner who lives around the corner and I quote “I know people don't like it but I don't care”

She is not going to like me as a neighbor if she turns into a timeshare.

BrianL99 06-08-2023 07:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2224445)
That's okay; it doesn't matter whether it is a minority or majority opinion. What matters are the words in the deed restrictions, the words in Florida law, and the way both are enforced.
You should get your money back, from whatever Law School you went to.

Bill14564 06-08-2023 07:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2224485)
You should get your money back, from whatever Law School you went to.
Simple English comprehension.

What do you base your disagreement on? Do you have deed restriction wording that specifically prohibits rentals? Have you read the Florida law concerning short-term rentals? Do you know of a case where a rental in the Villages was found to be a violation of the deed restrictions?

brianherlihy 06-08-2023 07:17 AM
keep all locked up

Normal 06-08-2023 08:25 AM
All deed restrictions apply
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEXJK (Post 2224387)
Hello,
Recently moved into the villages fantastic experience so far.
Question is it common practice for villas to be rented for a week or less to day workers? One currently rented to 6 non English speaking day workers.
What is the HOA policy for renting?
Thanks
6 adults would be a problem. Restrictions state “Single Family” dwelling.
VCDD Deed Compliance - Sumter County

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-08-2023 08:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianherlihy (Post 2224493)
keep all locked up
Nah, my neighbor is a Landlady, she rents her place out on occasion for a couple weeks at a time to tenants she vets. She also has family in the area who check on the property regularly. I don't think we need to lock up my neighbor. She's very nice.

pauld315 06-08-2023 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2224397)
Based on the number of occupants they could be in violation of occupancy laws. I wonder if the landlord knows what is going on?

50 illegal immigrants were stashed in an ABQ apartment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuclXMKSpJs
It is very normal in TV to have 6 adults share a 3 bedroom rental. I see it and its effects every winter when you can't get into anything. This is what happens when there are no rental restrictions.

Whitley 06-08-2023 08:36 AM
It depends on what language they speak.

Spanish = max two non related with no more that 15 total
French = Just pass
German = Up to 5 non related entities, no more that 5 people total
Swedish = if stewardesses as many as one can fit
Farsi = no more that one per house. If you see two or more discussing something, contact ...Nevermind)

oldtimes 06-08-2023 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2224519)
Nah, my neighbor is a Landlady, she rents her place out on occasion for a couple weeks at a time to tenants she vets. She also has family in the area who check on the property regularly. I don't think we need to lock up my neighbor. She's very nice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2208509)
I just found out why one of the houses in our neighborhood looks like crap, now that it's been sold, and why one of my neighbors is thinking about moving. Turns out - the person who bought the house - is living in it. But she sectioned off her living room and is renting it BY THE NIGHT to whoever answers an ad in an Orlando newspaper, for only $50/night.

She parked her car blocking one neighbor's driveway a couple of times. And another time she parked IN a neighbor's driveway. And no she didn't have permission - the neighbor comes home from work at lunch time every day and wasn't able to park in her own driveway because the other person had their car in it. I've also seen an SUV outside in front of this person's house - not pulled over, but just - parked - in the road. Basically turning our street into a one-lane street.

All of this is happening with just one property in the neighborhood. I've told my neighbors next time this lady or her tenant blocks their driveway, to not confront them. Just call the police. And next time they park IN a neighbor's driveway - don't confront. Call the police.

Don't bother with community watch, they can't do anything about it. Blocking someone's driveway, and trespassing on someone's property - are both things the police are paid to handle.
Bit of a hypocrite aren't we?

Normal 06-08-2023 02:10 PM
Workers
 
If construction workers building houses in TV are living in the Villa, not only is it unprofessional and conflicting on so many levels, it can be reported. Call Community Standards at 352-751-3939 . If you suspect undocumented workers ICE’s number is 1-877-2INTAKE. I’m sure TV would appreciate the press coverage.

JMintzer 06-08-2023 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2224533)
Bit of a hypocrite aren't we?
Are you surprised?

Stu from NYC 06-08-2023 03:12 PM
I would not want to live in an area where tenants just come and go and there is no stability in our neighborhood. Rather like to know the folks we live nearby.

Normal 06-08-2023 03:15 PM
Bring in the PRESS
 
It only takes one time. If ICE raided a house in The Villages, the rental days would be over for good. A couple of news outlets would hammer in the death nail. Only an idiot would rent out to that situation.

manaboutown 06-08-2023 03:48 PM
Just knock on the door and when it is opened yell "Green cards!"

On second thought you might get shot or worse so don't.

Whitley 06-08-2023 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2224654)
Are you surprised?

Perhaps not surprised, but terribly disappointed.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-08-2023 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2224533)
Bit of a hypocrite aren't we?
Not at all. I have no problem with people renting their properties. I have a problem with people who don't care who their tenants are, or about the community/neighborhood in which they live. The two homes, and their homeowners, are entirely different situations. One of them split their very small living room into a den and a third bedroom, on a property that is assessed as a two bedroom home. They didn't have a permit for the construction, and is renting the room for less than the cost of a hotel room in the no-tell motel across 441. This homeowner also has created what amounts to a continual construction site - with trucks and debris and materials all across her front lawn and in her driveway for the past several MONTHS. Basically since the week after she bought it.

The other, as I said, vets her tenants carefully. She did no construction to her property, with or without a permit. She keeps the place immaculate and goes out of her way to be a good neighbor.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-08-2023 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2224666)
I would not want to live in an area where tenants just come and go and there is no stability in our neighborhood. Rather like to know the folks we live nearby.
You should probably have a talk with The Villages Property Management and ask them to stop renting short-term rentals then. They are still doing Lifestyle visits in neighborhoods where people have already purchased and moved in to their new homes, so you need to tell The Villages to stop the Lifestyle visits too. No stability when the -maximum- rental on a Lifestyle visit is only 7 days, right?

retiredguy123 06-08-2023 06:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2224710)
You should probably have a talk with The Villages Property Management and ask them to stop renting short-term rentals then. They are still doing Lifestyle visits in neighborhoods where people have already purchased and moved in to their new homes, so you need to tell The Villages to stop the Lifestyle visits too. No stability when the -maximum- rental on a Lifestyle visit is only 7 days, right?
As I understand it, The Villages Property Management company is a private company and is not owned by or associated with The Villages. That is what they told me when I called them recently.

Papa_lecki 06-08-2023 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2224631)
If you suspect undocumented workers ICE’s number is 1-877-2INTAKE. I’m sure TV would appreciate the press coverage.
It’s easy, change your WIFI name to “Immigration/Customs Van”

Rwirish 06-09-2023 05:08 AM
There is no HOA in The Villages. Regarding renters ……

TheWarriors 06-09-2023 06:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2224391)
Would it be less of a problem if the renters spoke English?

Most deed restrictions do not prohibit rentals of any length of time. Renting is not the type of business prohibited in the restrictions.
And cue the racism comment. It’s as predictable as the sunrise.

GizmoWhiskers 06-09-2023 06:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2224391)
Would it be less of a problem if the renters spoke English?

Most deed restrictions do not prohibit rentals of any length of time. Renting is not the type of business prohibited in the restrictions.
The deed restrictions for villas state NO businesses can be run out of the property. Rentals such as ABnB's rented out daily qualify as short term rentals (any rentals less than 6 months signed lease) which REQUIRE a business license with the State of FL (unless the owner is living in the house renting a room while residing with the renter.)

Residents should be fighting ABnB's being in the Villas. Not seeing any Villa owners (creating say a class action to) force T V to comply with the deed restriction enforcement. Ka Sa Ra Sa Ra...

Bill14564 06-09-2023 06:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2224780)
The deed restrictions for villas state NO businesses can be run out of the property. Rentals such as ABnB's rented out daily qualify as short term rentals (any rentals less than 6 months signed lease) which REQUIRE a business license with the State of FL (unless the owner is living in the house renting a room while residing with the renter.)

Residents should be fighting ABnB's being in the Villas. Not seeing any Villa owners (creating say a class action to) force T V to comply with the deed restriction enforcement. Ka Sa Ra Sa Ra...
Thank you. This is the first time someone has pointed out that the Villa restrictions are different than the other restrictions.

In that case, and even in the case of the non-Villas, anyone concerned about rentals should read the "Enforcement" section of the restrictions. The Developer is not obligated to enforce the deed restrictions. On the other hand, we have the right (and duty) to take the owner to court to force them to obey the restrictions.

banjobob 06-09-2023 06:40 AM
These fall under the internal deed restrictions that the Developer is to enforce , after 10 years living here that department is just a paycheck for one of the family members to enforce . I have never seen heard or gossiped about any enforcement from that department. Multiple pets , too many people in a home, adult and small children living here the list goes on. Can anyone cite an example of any enforcement .

Bill14564 06-09-2023 06:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2224801)
These fall under the internal deed restrictions that the Developer is to enforce , after 10 years living here that department is just a paycheck for one of the family members to enforce . I have never seen heard or gossiped about any enforcement from that department. Multiple pets , too many people in a home, adult and small children living here the list goes on. Can anyone cite an example of any enforcement .
Can you cite the wording that says the Developer is to enforce the deed restrictions? (HINT: I haven't found it in any of the restrictions I have read)

Bogie Shooter 06-09-2023 07:02 AM
From Village Community Development Districts under Community Standards

Q: What is an internal deed restriction and who can enforce them?
A: Deed restrictions are declarations between the Declarant (Developer named in your individual
Declaration of Restrictions) and the Property Owner. Who can enforce the internal deed
restrictions?
• Any property owner of any lot may seek to enforce internal restrictions against another
property owner.
• The Declarant may seek to enforce internal restrictions.
• Examples of internal deed restriction violations include, but are not limited to,
underage children living in the home or running a business from the home.

Babubhat 06-09-2023 07:14 AM
Google maps shows businesses listing their home address. That implies a business being run out of a home

Bill14564 06-09-2023 07:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2224804)
Can you cite the wording that says the Developer is to enforce the deed restrictions? (HINT: I haven't found it in any of the restrictions I have read)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2224819)
From Village Community Development Districts under Community Standards

Q: What is an internal deed restriction and who can enforce them?
A: Deed restrictions are declarations between the Declarant (Developer named in your individual
Declaration of Restrictions) and the Property Owner. Who can enforce the internal deed
restrictions?
• Any property owner of any lot may seek to enforce internal restrictions against another
property owner.
• The Declarant may seek to enforce internal restrictions.
• Examples of internal deed restriction violations include, but are not limited to,
underage children living in the home or running a business from the home.
I was looking for a more legal document that uses the word "must" or "shall" rather than "may."

airstreamingypsy 06-09-2023 08:01 AM
Have any of them done anything wrong? Have they raped or murdered anyone? Broken into cars? Or is the fact that English isn't their first language the charge against them?

Normal 06-09-2023 08:37 AM
Must be able to…
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2224857)
Have any of them done anything wrong? Have they raped or murdered anyone? Broken into cars? Or is the fact that English isn't their first language the charge against them?
Of course all US citizens must be able to read and write in English. It is a prerequisite for US citizen applicants.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:56 AM.
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.