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Full-timer 07-01-2023 06:10 AM

Crime in The Villages
 
It is a shame that The Villages" cover up" all the crime and accidents going on.
So many people have no clue about what happens here.


This "gated community" is a joke. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk right in anytime they want.

What would it take (and cost) to make it a real gated community, and would it help ?

6 years in, not the wonderful place it is claimed to be.

golfing eagles 07-01-2023 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2230981)
It is a shame that The Villages" cover up" all the crime and accidents going on.
So many people have no clue about what happens here.


This "gated community" is a joke. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk right in anytime they want.

What would it take (and cost) to make it a real gated community, and would it help ?

6 years in, not the wonderful place it is claimed to be.

You have options........

Michael 61 07-01-2023 06:23 AM

From my perspective, The Villages has the least amount of crime of anyplace else I’ve ever lived, and the crime that is here appears to be infrequent and mostly petty. There is no place that is crime-free. I feel extremely safe here.

Hardlyworking 07-01-2023 06:24 AM

This isn’t a gated community, it is a community with gates.

JoelJohnson 07-01-2023 06:24 AM

It's NOT a gated community, it's a community with gates. The gates are there to help the golf cart from being run over.

JD Tremor 07-01-2023 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2230984)
You have options........

Very good way to put it! LOL:BigApplause:

Marathon Man 07-01-2023 06:36 AM

I would never continue to live in a place that I was unhappy with. Especially if I was so unhappy that I felt the need to put it in writing.

Get real 07-01-2023 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2230981)
It is a shame that The Villages" cover up" all the crime and accidents going on.
So many people have no clue about what happens here.


So if the Villages "cover up" all this crime, how do you know about it?

thelegges 07-01-2023 06:41 AM

Would this be a person who bought blindly, had zero ideas of where they were going to invest their money?

OP joined in 2021, and didn’t do diligence on searches of this “isn’t a gated community,” but a traffic flow across each entrance and exit, to allow golf carts to cross as safely as possible. Sometimes one needs HELP in making major decisions, this may be the case.

As far as OP worried about crime, how many of us have left their garage door open, and nothing was removed. How many has left their front door, or garages open and come home thinking well I forgot to lock, or close the door.

Maybe the OP has been targeted, or is relying on internet info and is now afraid they have made a grave mistake, believing hearsay.

Have to say we were in the process of moving from one home to the next, took a load of stuff dropped it at the new house around midnight. Community Watch called at 3:30am, garage door open lights on, I drove down, everything still in the places I left it. Now if we had a crime wave as the OP suggested, someone would have walked into the unlocked house, and taken whatever they could walk off with. Didn’t happen, all crap still there:faint:

djlnc 07-01-2023 06:49 AM

Makes me wonder though...the bad guys might figure out that things are easy picking at The Villages because everyone is so trusting.

ThirdOfFive 07-01-2023 06:53 AM

You can get a pretty good idea of the "crime" in and around TV by reading that online newspaper (AKA AsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAs teriskAsterisk). It does an exhaustive job of covering crime in the area, mainly as clickbait for the trolls, but the content of what is reported is important. Story after story after story of petty shoplifting, DUI, inebriated Villagers getting lost on their way home from the squares, minor spats between neighbors, possession of a controlled substance, arrests for failure to pay traffic tickets, things like that. Now and again a real story about real crime sneaks in, but overwhelmingly the "crime" reported usually in glaring headlines in the aforementioned online newspaper is petty stuff. Usually very petty stuff. Stuff that, in places many of us hail from, would rate only a belly laugh from police if we even tried to report it.

The LEOs serving TV and surrounding area, in my opinion, do an outstanding job. They know who the troublemakers are and they keep the lid on tight. How many stories have we seen of this-or-that vehicle stopped by law enforcement, usually in the wee hours, for things like a broken taillight, improper turn, or (my particular favorite) stopping at a stop sign with the front tires ON instead of in back of the solid white line? The K-9 unit is called, the dog "alerts" to the possible presence of drugs, which is resonable suspicion--and sure enough, drugs are found and the perpetrator(s) arrested. I've seen that K-9 unit parked in back of Kilwin's at Spanish Springs a couple of times, both times when the square has been extremely busy. Nothing like being ready.

I've had a Florida permit to carry since shortly after we moved here but haven't felt the need to carry even once. Back home, particularly during the last five years or so before coming here, I carried routinely. We're extremely lucky here in TV with the law enforcement that we have.

Blueblaze 07-01-2023 07:07 AM

I know a guy in the neighborhood watch, and it's interesting to hear him talk about the petty crimes that go on all the time because residents stupidly believe they've discovered the only crime-free town on the planet. They'll leave their garage door open all day with their golf clubs sitting next to the door, and then they're surprised to discover they're missing one day. Recently, he was telling me about a rash of car break-ins on a single street down south. What kind of idiot leaves a loaded pistol in the glovebox of his unlocked car in his driveway over night? Apparently, there is a whole street full of such idiots somewhere in The Villages.

I would be interested to hear the OP tell us what prompted his own outrage at all the crime here, so I can tell him about all that crime on the rural street in Texas where I moved from, where I twice had my locked mailbox broken into, and where my neighbor in the nice little Cape Cod, three houses down, was shot in his own front yard over an argument with one of his meth customers.

JGibson 07-01-2023 07:13 AM

Statistics would disagree with you as TV is one of the lowest crime areas in the country. Even if you lived in a truly gated community you would still have to leave the gates to get to shopping, doctors, etc.

Of all the things to complain about in TV crime is not one of them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-01-2023 07:24 AM

My parents live in a "truly gated community." They still have to lock their car doors and their house doors and keep the garage doors closed during the day. All those contractors - landscapers, roofers, HVAC people, housekeepers, aides - they are all given access to the community because they're working either for the HOA on communal property (like the pool/clubhouse area) or for individual residents.

The bigger companies sometimes hire people who have no morals - and they don't know this until someone complains their car was broken into.

And this happens in a GATED community. Because being gated doesn't mean being isolated from the rest of the world. No place is immune to crime, when you live in a community. Even if your neighbors are 100% legit perfect angels - the guy who replaces their carpet might not be.

The likelihood of you being the victim of a crime committed by someone who does /not/ live in the Villages, is very low. The risk increases the closer you are to one of the gates. But if you lock your doors when you're not home or at night, keep your garage door closed when you're not planning on being in it, lock your car doors when you're not in them - your risk is possibly only .05%. So doing all that while living near a gate might increase that risk to .08%.

As they say - trust in the Lord, but tie up your camel.

Two Bills 07-01-2023 07:26 AM

My wife and I have been very fortunate to travel widely in the world during our retirement years.
The only place we felt totally secure to roam freely and not even have to consider our personal safety was in The Villages.
Don't agree with the OP at all.

Bay Kid 07-01-2023 07:30 AM

Time to move to the wilderness, maybe you'll be safe.

dewilson58 07-01-2023 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2230981)
So many people have no clue about what happens here.

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So funny when a full-timer figures something out after years of living here.

BUT, actually.....by definition, TV is a gated community: "a residential area with roads that have gates to control the movement of traffic and people into and out of the area."

:loco::loco:

D&BSmith 07-01-2023 07:38 AM

Are you selling? Need your house for daily rentals.

brianherlihy 07-01-2023 07:52 AM

we will be selling in two weeks

Mass288 07-01-2023 08:11 AM

Hi all..moving there next month and the lack of crime is a huge reason we chose the villages.. to put it in perspective. The Villages has in the area of 600 to 900 crimes a year by avail stats...the city I worked in up north had upwards of 165000 call for service with 130000 residents...pretty safe here

Djean1981 07-01-2023 08:13 AM

Bye bye. Everyone knows that the gates are for traffic control.. lol

twoplanekid 07-01-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2231056)
So funny when a full-timer figures something out after years of living here.

BUT, actually.....by definition, TV is a gated community: "a residential area with roads that have gates to control the movement of traffic and people into and out of the area."

:loco::loco:

I would agree that the gates help to control traffic. However, everyone/the public has access to most of the Villages with some minor area exceptions. Thus, I would not suggest that the Villages is a gated community by that definition as access by people in and out is not controlled.

Bilyclub 07-01-2023 08:21 AM

Somebody woke up this morning and decided to stir the pot with nonsense. There are a few accidents and some petty crime, but nothing even close to the averages of a over 100,000 resident city.

mraines 07-01-2023 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Get real (Post 2231002)
So if the Villages "cover up" all this crime, how do you know about it?

There are sources other than the Daily Sun which is nothing more than a propaganda rag for the Developer.

dewilson58 07-01-2023 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2231091)
I would agree that the gates help to control traffic. However, everyone/the public has access to most of the Villages with some minor area exceptions. Thus, I would not suggest that the Villages is a gated community by that definition as access by people in and out is not controlled.

Read the definition.................TV does control traffic by making people stop/slow down.....the definition does not say restricts access.

SummerDays 07-01-2023 08:46 AM

I've closed on a house and will be moving to TV in a month or so. Commented to someone yesterday about the nature of the crime reported in the villages versus the crime where I live currently.

What I do not see in the villages compared to where I live now - the swat team in 2 locations at the same time due to gun violence (that happened last week), assaults including significant bodily injury, vandalism in and on retail and office buildings, destruction of public and private property, rapes, and even the occasional murder. Drive by shootings.

There is crime everywhere, but from what I see, what goes on in the villages is a faint echo of what goes on everywhere else I have ever lived.

I find it hard to believe these types of crimes are occurring in TV, yet somehow it is all covered up.

MrFlorida 07-01-2023 09:03 AM

Name another place that you would like to live ???? Yea, I thought so.....

swooner 07-01-2023 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Get real (Post 2231002)
So if the Villages "cover up" all this crime, how do you know about it?

Have you never witnessed a bad accident in TV. I’ve seen several that have never been reported in the Daily Fish Wrapper.

MSchad 07-01-2023 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2230981)
It is a shame that The Villages" cover up" all the crime and accidents going on.
So many people have no clue about what happens here.


This "gated community" is a joke. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk right in anytime they want.

What would it take (and cost) to make it a real gated community, and would it help ?

6 years in, not the wonderful place it is claimed to be.

5 years in and Love it here. What makes you think this is a gated community? Because it has gates on public streets to control traffic speed and cart crossings?

Number 10 GI 07-01-2023 01:37 PM

Why is there such a need that some have for reading about doom, death, misery, and evil??????

thelegges 07-01-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by swooner (Post 2231215)
Have you never witnessed a bad accident in TV. I’ve seen several that have never been reported in the Daily Fish Wrapper.

Our Detroit Newpaper didn’t report break ins, fires, accidents.

Robbery at gunpoint, Leo involved shooting, and what the governor did today. So Sun is very close to a newspaper that had with 100 times more subscribers.

Papa_lecki 07-01-2023 02:16 PM

10 to 15 people will be shot/killed in Philadelphia.
20 to 25 cars will be stolen
Probably 15 car jacking
I bet 100 houses are broken into
ALL THIS WEEKEND

The Philadelphia Inquirer will not cover any of it, the news reports might cover 1 or 2, maybe.

jimbomaybe 07-01-2023 02:49 PM

You have to be careful what gang you join, the "insane Vice Lords" of Hemingway have an on going war over turf with the " Gangster Disciples" of Bridgeport

Bilyclub 07-01-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2231247)
You have to be careful what gang you join, the "insane Vice Lords" of Hemingway have an on going war over turf with the " Gangster Disciples" of Bridgeport

You must be from Chicago with your people and folks lingo. Throw some lk's into the mix too.

Marathon Man 07-01-2023 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swooner (Post 2231215)
Have you never witnessed a bad accident in TV. I’ve seen several that have never been reported in the Daily Fish Wrapper.

I have tried and can't come up with a single way that my life is affected by a lack of accident reporting.

Marathon Man 07-01-2023 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2231100)
There are sources other than the Daily Sun which is nothing more than a propaganda rag for the Developer.

And how should this matter?

dewilson58 07-01-2023 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2231265)
I have tried and can't come up with a single way that my life is affected by a lack of accident reporting.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

BrianL99 07-01-2023 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=Full-timer;2230981

So many people have no clue about what happens here.

This "gated community" is a joke. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane can walk right in anytime they want.

What would it take (and cost) to make it a real gated community, and would it help ?

[/QUOTE]

Not possible. The roads/streets in The Villages are PUBLIC.

You're right, so many people have no clue.

Bogie Shooter 07-01-2023 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2231274)
Not possible. The roads/streets in The Villages are PUBLIC.

You're right, so many people have no clue.

And he’s been on TOTV since June 2021…..how many times since then has it been posted “public roads “ .

pokeefe45@aol.com 07-01-2023 04:43 PM

I have had the good fortune to live in 10 different states during the course of my life, and I can honestly say I've never felt safer than here in TV. There's nothing in our deed restrictions that can 'force' you to read the 'Daily Sun' newspaper-and yes, it's happy talk, but hell, it's what I want at this stage of my life. If I want to get the 'alternative' view, I can use the APP for the '**************' which will tell me which whiskey crazed old geezer attempted to cheat his aunt's cousin's mother out of her make-up money and is being sought for questioning. We each wake up every day and make a decision about whether to look for gloom and doom or not. I choose 'not'.


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