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sounding 07-11-2023 10:15 AM

Drought
 
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

Taltarzac725 07-11-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

Drought

Cherry picking going on this Tuesday.

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An estimated 55 million people globally are affected by droughts every year, and they are the most serious hazard to livestock and crops in nearly every part of the world. Drought threatens people’s livelihoods, increases the risk of disease and death, and fuels mass migration. Water scarcity impacts 40% of the world’s population, and as many as 700 million people are at-risk of being displaced as a result of drought by 2030.

MrFlorida 07-11-2023 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

It ended when the rainy season started.....

Keefelane66 07-11-2023 11:14 AM

Since we’re finally getting our Summer rain in The Villages the world is OK.

golfing eagles 07-11-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

No you didn't :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

metalic 07-11-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

I must say, I find your logic to be rather confused.

For decades, the scientists have been saying that climate change will cause some areas to be wetter than usual, and other areas to be drier. Likewise, some areas will be hotter than usual whereas others will be colder.

Yet, when exactly what they predicted is actually taking place, you cite this as evidence that climate change is not real?

ThirdOfFive 07-11-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

Crisis? Florida's weather, except for hurricanes, seems as predictible as a clock.

djplong 07-12-2023 04:57 AM

It also means more extremes. More rain AND more droughts - though I know that sounds counter-intuitive. Up herein New England, we had a long dry spell not too long ago and now we have flooding in Vermont. In California the "rain superhighway" did a number on their mega-drought. It means that old methodologies for predicting specifics are changing because we're literally defining a "new normal". Well, new to us. Carbon levels this high HAVE been seen by other species that are still on the planet.

huge-pigeons 07-12-2023 04:58 AM

All of this is normal. The earth goes in cycles, we get El Niño or La Niña every so many years and this has nothing to do with climate change. There’s been predictions from the so-called climate scientists that all of the ocean border cities will be under water over 50 years. We are supposed to be in a starting ice age phase since it’s been over a few hundred thousand years

donfey 07-12-2023 05:20 AM

Climate change.
 
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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2234226)
I must say, I find your logic to be rather confused.

For decades, the scientists have been saying that climate change will cause some areas to be wetter than usual, and other areas to be drier. Likewise, some areas will be hotter than usual whereas others will be colder.

Yet, when exactly what they predicted is actually taking place, you cite this as evidence that climate change is not real?

It IS real, but we call it seasons.

dewilson58 07-12-2023 05:50 AM

Bait

crash 07-12-2023 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

It is a world crisis and maybe you should look up the difference between weather and climate.

It does rain in a desert sometimes still a desert. In case you haven’t noticed much of the world in the middle of a heat wave

Windguy 07-12-2023 06:14 AM

I am truly shocked that so many people still do not understand the difference between climate and weather. I blame it on the politicians who bring snowballs to congressional hearings to disprove climate science.

merrymini 07-12-2023 06:37 AM

Every change is a crisis. Bla, bla, bla.

Wondering 07-12-2023 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

Don't you do any legitimate research? Global Warming/Climate Change involves extreme weather and climate. Research before you open your mouth!

Mobrien 07-12-2023 07:34 AM

Watch the news. The world is experiencing a climate crisis!

Whitley 07-12-2023 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2234226)
I must say, I find your logic to be rather confused.

For decades, the scientists have been saying that climate change will cause some areas to be wetter than usual, and other areas to be drier. Likewise, some areas will be hotter than usual whereas others will be colder.

Yet, when exactly what they predicted is actually taking place, you cite this as evidence that climate change is not real?

You understand how that sounds to someone looking into the situation. Some areas will be wetter than usual, with some being drier. Some locations hotter, yet others cooler. It reminds me of that old Carlin Weather skit. Today, sunny, till sunset then turning darker. Nothing anyone says will sway another. We have been deceived and lied to so often that it is difficult to accept anything as fact. Unfortunate.

airstreamingypsy 07-12-2023 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2234375)
Bait

Yep, and it gets tiresome when it's on a daily basis.

Whitley 07-12-2023 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2234402)
Don't you do any legitimate research? Global Warming/Climate Change involves extreme weather and climate. Research before you open your mouth!

Aren't you Mr. Personality. A pleasure to be around I am sure.

Rsener 07-12-2023 07:43 AM

Climate
 
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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

Ya can’t fix stupid

maistocars 07-12-2023 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2234226)
I must say, I find your logic to be rather confused.

For decades, the scientists have been saying that climate change will cause some areas to be wetter than usual, and other areas to be drier. Likewise, some areas will be hotter than usual whereas others will be colder.

Yet, when exactly what they predicted is actually taking place, you cite this as evidence that climate change is not real?

So you mean like normal weather patterns?

forebubba 07-12-2023 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
You can also give all the facts but some will not belief the facts.

Vermilion Villager 07-12-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2234226)
I must say, I find your logic to be rather confused.

For decades, the scientists have been saying that climate change will cause some areas to be wetter than usual, and other areas to be drier. Likewise, some areas will be hotter than usual whereas others will be colder.

Yet, when exactly what they predicted is actually taking place, you cite this as evidence that climate change is not real?

"Confused" and this guy you replied to are interchangeable terms:1rotfl:

Whitley 07-12-2023 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsener (Post 2234419)
Ya can’t fix stupid

I sense a high level of hostility this morning.

Vermilion Villager 07-12-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2234386)
I am truly shocked that so many people still do not understand the difference between climate and weather. I blame it on the politicians who bring snowballs to congressional hearings to disprove climate science.

Exactly!!! and now the same state is begging for federal aid......

Heat wave in USA expected to reach Oklahoma, bring triple-digit temps

TheWarriors 07-12-2023 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by forebubba (Post 2234433)

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
You can also give all the facts but some will not belief the facts.

And just who paid for the facts they wanted for the outcome. Too much politics in studies today to have any confidence of being unbiased.

FredTheHead 07-12-2023 08:42 AM

If it isn't happening in The Villages it just doesn't matter to some of us here. Some of us only have a few years left so we don't want to live in really, we live in The Villages.

Pachine58 07-12-2023 09:10 AM

So low down is govt officials claiming climate change hoax. Do you see them giving up their expensive gas guzzling SUVs ? Do you see them giving up their personal yachts? Do you see solar panels or a windmill in the front of their mansions? Do you see them giving up their expensive taxpayers steak dinners for bugs.

Of course not, it a tool used to control the population and make sure the resources are used for them while the average American suffers.

rogerrice60 07-12-2023 09:27 AM

Your scientists are idiotic, in the 1960's all talk shows were convinced that GLOBAL COOLING was destroying the world. They claimed the " ICE CAP" was growing so big it would tip the world off it's axis

Vermilion Villager 07-12-2023 09:43 AM

Fla. waters reach all-time high temps.
 
Thermometers don't lie folks......
How Hot Is the Sea Off Florida Right Now? Think 90s Fahrenheit.

Keefelane66 07-12-2023 09:53 AM

It’s only going to get warmer.

sounding 07-12-2023 10:04 AM

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It’s only going to get warmer.

Correct, because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age.

sounding 07-12-2023 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mobrien (Post 2234413)
Watch the news. The world is experiencing a climate crisis!

That's why I don't watch news - it's mostly propaganda. I instead watch the data, which says there is no climate crisis.

sounding 07-12-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2234226)
I must say, I find your logic to be rather confused.

For decades, the scientists have been saying that climate change will cause some areas to be wetter than usual, and other areas to be drier. Likewise, some areas will be hotter than usual whereas others will be colder.

Yet, when exactly what they predicted is actually taking place, you cite this as evidence that climate change is not real?

All climate model predictions have been too hot - even from NASA scientists. It's embarrassing.

Keefelane66 07-12-2023 10:14 AM

Aren’t we in an 8 year cooling trend

Marsha11 07-12-2023 10:27 AM

I agree " not real"

Vermilion Villager 07-12-2023 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234481)
That's why I don't watch news - it's mostly propaganda. I instead watch the data, which says there is no climate crisis.

Neither of those two slides has anything to do with climate change. The first slide shows an increase in the crop production mainly due to the use of fertilizers that were virtually nonexistent in the 1960s. The second slide talks about famine and that is attributed to a global effort to distribute food.
But by all means....you keep trying, because I can debunk this kind of stuff ALL DAY LONG!! :1rotfl:

sounding 07-12-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2234485)
Aren’t we in an 8 year cooling trend

Correct. See attached UAH graph. This is mainly because of the decreasing Feynman sunspot cycle. It's expected to start its warming cycle in several years. In the meantime, the Feynman cycle is riding on top of the warming Bray and Eddy solar cycles, which have been warming the earth since the Little Ice Age - and are expected to continue warming the earth for a few more hundred years (after the Feynman cooling cycle ends). However, the Bray and Eddy solar cycles are riding on top the Milankovitch Cycle, which started its ice age cooling trend 7,000 years ago - which in the end - will take us into the next ice age era - as it has done 44 times in the last 2.5 million years. There are other sun-driven cycles in play, but it gets complicated.

sounding 07-12-2023 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2234492)
Neither of those two slides has anything to do with climate change. The first slide shows an increase in the crop production mainly due to the use of fertilizers that were virtually nonexistent in the 1960s. The second slide talks about famine and that is attributed to a global effort to distribute food.
But by all means....you keep trying, because I can debunk this kind of stuff ALL DAY LONG!! :1rotfl:

That's the narrative. Here's the data - NASA says the majority of earth's greening is due to CO2 fertilization. Plus, fertilizers are fossil-fuel engineered products. Plus, more crops are possible from fossil-fuel created machines and fuels. Plus, global warming is opening up more farmlands and for longer growing periods. Our ecosystems are improving thanks to global warming and more CO2 ... that's why we call the Roman and Medieval warm periods climatic optimums. Life on earth is improving - especially since the population keeps growing.

Vermilion Villager 07-12-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234502)
That's the narrative. Here's the data - NASA says the majority of earth's greening is due to CO2 fertilization. Plus, fertilizers are fossil-fuel engineered products. Plus, more crops are possible from fossil-fuel created machines and fuels. Plus, global warming is opening up more farmlands and for longer growing periods. Our ecosystems are improving thanks to global warming and more CO2 ... that's why we call the Roman and Medieval warm periods climatic optimums. Life on earth is improving - especially since the population keeps growing.

I don't know if you realize or not but you just blew up your own climate change denial thesis with your own slide. Here is the remainder of the NASA article that you failed to include:
While rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the air can be beneficial for plants, it is also the chief culprit of climate change. The gas, which traps heat in Earth’s atmosphere, has been increasing since the industrial age due to the burning of oil, gas, coal and wood for energy and is continuing to reach concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years. The impacts of climate change include global warming, rising sea levels, melting glaciers and sea ice as well as more severe weather events. I don't see any mention of the Earth getting cooler in this NASA report…… The one you posted.


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