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Rainger99 07-13-2023 10:20 AM

Actors also going on strike??
 
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!

Will anyone miss them??

Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News

Caymus 07-13-2023 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2234948)
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!

Will anyone miss them??

Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News

Won't miss them for a few years. Plenty of old shows I have never seen.

Taltarzac725 07-13-2023 10:44 AM

Yes. The movie and TV show production will slow down a lot unless they come to a quick settlement.

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kcrazorbackfan 07-13-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2234948)
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!

Will anyone miss them??

Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News

Miss who? 😉

Taltarzac725 07-13-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2234973)
Miss who? 😉

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manaboutown 07-13-2023 12:31 PM

I have not been to a movie in years and maybe once or twice a year watch an old one on TV. I prefer to read.

Stu from NYC 07-13-2023 12:33 PM

Please let me know if they do not come to terms by this time next year.

However how are these people making 20 million or so a movie going to survive?

oldtimes 07-13-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2234948)
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!

Will anyone miss them??

Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News

Nope

Michael 61 07-13-2023 01:04 PM

They can stay out on strike as long as they want - all the best movies are on TCM.

Papa_lecki 07-13-2023 02:16 PM

But let’s reopen the Brownwood theater.

Stu from NYC 07-13-2023 02:33 PM

Need to find a picket line to cross. Do wonder how much the writers are getting paid so not sure without that whether to be sympathetic or not.

Bogie Shooter 07-13-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2235021)
Need to find a picket line to cross. Do wonder how much the writers are getting paid so not sure without that whether to be sympathetic or not.

What do striking Hollywood writers want? A look at demands | AP News

Taltarzac725 07-13-2023 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2235039)

Thanks for posting that.

I used to go to the movies once a week or more but do use other resources for watching movies now.

Stu from NYC 07-13-2023 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2235039)

I see percentages but do not see the actual dollars they make or are looking for so the article does not give the info I would like to see.

Number 10 GI 07-13-2023 04:48 PM

Won't miss them at all. I haven't watched prime time television in nearly 15 years. I've probably only gone to 5 or 6 movies in that time. If I want to destroy brain cells on a massive scale, I'll drink a bottle of whiskey every day.

Bogie Shooter 07-13-2023 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2235061)
I see percentages but do not see the actual dollars they make or are looking for so the article does not give the info I would like to see.

So. You want me to look up the info you want? Really?

Djean1981 07-13-2023 06:18 PM

Nope. I'm currently watching Rockford re-runs. Most new programming is blah..

Stu from NYC 07-13-2023 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2235088)
So. You want me to look up the info you want? Really?

No. I asked a question you answered it with no real info and I commented on it.

Bogie Shooter 07-13-2023 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2235021)
Need to find a picket line to cross. Do wonder how much the writers are getting paid so not sure without that whether to be sympathetic or not.

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Taltarzac725 07-13-2023 10:34 PM

Too bad the retired former NYC area labor lawyer is not on here any longer. I think he might have passed, unfortunately. Used to talk to him a bit at a local dog park. But I do not recall him posting for a few years on Talk of the Villages.

I see this strike going on for a few months but could be wrong.

Marmaduke 07-14-2023 05:27 AM

Remember how much we liked the Classy Hollywood stars!

When they keep their political influence$ on the screen, stage and tube, we'll return in droves.

That goes for all political sides, so this doesn't turn political.

But, the Way We Were isn't the way we are now, so frankly Scarlet, I don't give a ____!

MandoMan 07-14-2023 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2234948)
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!

Will anyone miss them??

Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News

They joined the strike after the screen writers had already been on strike for a month or so instead of waiting for the writers’ strike to be over. I guess that’s striking while the iron is hot.

Blackbird45 07-14-2023 06:45 AM

Show me the money
 
I'm not either an actor or a writer, but I did negotiate contracts with the majors twice. Most well-known actors are doing very well money wise. But the majority of the business are working stiffs that live paycheck to paycheck. When you sit down for negotiations you are not sitting opposite the CEO or management you are across the table with people whose jobs are to figure out a way to keep the increase as low as possible or find a way to avoid any increases at all. Now I never considered them the enemy, because I understood the game, but I was also aware that the executives at the same time they were claiming poverty were earning millions of dollars a year. The problem here is larger than the entertainment industry. When workers help a business grow both management and workers should reap the rewards and when a business starts to decline everyone should share the pain. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. When a business starts to turn sour the CEO remains at their highest salary or gets fire with a golden parachute while the workers suffer one way or another. I don't have the answer, but there has to be a better way for this to work.

Dgodin 07-14-2023 07:19 AM

Our economy will miss them.

Joe C. 07-14-2023 07:28 AM

Good riddance.

Whitley 07-14-2023 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2234948)
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!

Will anyone miss them??

Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News

I really do not think I will even notice. Unlike th 890s, 90's there aren't many (any) scripted shows I watc`h on TV. As for the movies, No desire to see movies reshot with a "equitable" cast.

Stu from NYC 07-14-2023 07:32 AM

I am sure we can entertain ourselves with the streaming services we use.

oldtimes 07-14-2023 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2235197)
I'm not either an actor or a writer, but I did negotiate contracts with the majors twice. Most well-known actors are doing very well money wise. But the majority of the business are working stiffs that live paycheck to paycheck. When you sit down for negotiations you are not sitting opposite the CEO or management you are across the table with people whose jobs are to figure out a way to keep the increase as low as possible or find a way to avoid any increases at all. Now I never considered them the enemy, because I understood the game, but I was also aware that the executives at the same time they were claiming poverty were earning millions of dollars a year. The problem here is larger than the entertainment industry. When workers help a business grow both management and workers should reap the rewards and when a business starts to decline everyone should share the pain. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. When a business starts to turn sour the CEO remains at their highest salary or gets fire with a golden parachute while the workers suffer one way or another. I don't have the answer, but there has to be a better way for this to work.

Maybe if they stop turning out garbage. We are streaming some of the older shows. We especially enjoy the British ones.

Caymus 07-14-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2235197)
I'm not either an actor or a writer, but I did negotiate contracts with the majors twice. Most well-known actors are doing very well money wise. But the majority of the business are working stiffs that live paycheck to paycheck. When you sit down for negotiations you are not sitting opposite the CEO or management you are across the table with people whose jobs are to figure out a way to keep the increase as low as possible or find a way to avoid any increases at all. Now I never considered them the enemy, because I understood the game, but I was also aware that the executives at the same time they were claiming poverty were earning millions of dollars a year. The problem here is larger than the entertainment industry. When workers help a business grow both management and workers should reap the rewards and when a business starts to decline everyone should share the pain. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. When a business starts to turn sour the CEO remains at their highest salary or gets fire with a golden parachute while the workers suffer one way or another. I don't have the answer, but there has to be a better way for this to work.

Seems like a supply and demand problem. Maybe the "working stiffs" should consider changing professions. Plenty of jobs in medical and building trades.

Vermilion Villager 07-14-2023 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2234994)
Please let me know if they do not come to terms by this time next year.

However how are these people making 20 million or so a movie going to survive?

The actors are supporting the writers....they don't make $20 mil.:mornincoffee:

airstreamingypsy 07-14-2023 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2234994)
Please let me know if they do not come to terms by this time next year.

However how are these people making 20 million or so a movie going to survive?

You think everyone who works on a movie set makes 20 million a movie?

Regorp 07-14-2023 08:22 AM

Strike
 
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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2234948)
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!

Will anyone miss them??

Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News

No. Plenty for me to watch on streaming with Paramount+, Plex, Netflix, etc. Strike all you want!!

ThirdOfFive 07-14-2023 08:22 AM

What if they gave a strike and nobody came?

Hollywood has been taking it on the chin this past ten years or so. According to Bloomberg (Article by Lucas Shaw, June 25, 2023) profits for the largest entertainer companies and studios are down 60% from 2013. COVID didn't help, and numerous other factors are also in play, particularly streaming services which apparently negatively impact residuals for both actors and writers.

But one recurring theme I saw as a result of clicking around blames the "contraction" on Hollywood's mindless adherence to formulae, i.e. "creative stagnation". One article described it thus: "... we're seeing studios pass over original ideas in favor of proven IP. That makes people a little exhausted at the same stuff coming out over and over again. In film and TV, this is happening with countless reboots and spinoffs.

Hollywood has been accused of lacking originality in recent years, with many films and TV shows being sequels, reboots, or adaptations. This has led to a perception of creative stagnation, which can lead to a decrease in audience interest and revenue." (no film school dot com / creative stagnation).

The term no brainer comes to mind. Now and again a sequel comes out that is the equal to, or even better than, the original (Godfather II and Top Gun - Maverick come to mind, among some others) but many if not most of them are garbage. Anybody see (and actually enjoy) "Noah", that cabalistic clunker with some kind of weird environmental twist starring Russel Crowe, Anthony Hopkins and several other well-known actors that basically, flopped? Not precisely a sequel but certainly a retelling. Rotten Tomatoes gave it just a hair over two stars and I think that was being overly generous. Or "Exodus: Gods and Kings": that purported retelling of Moses and The Ten Commandments that (except for Ghassan Massoud as the Grand Vizier) was basically unwatchable? As Kip Mooney of Central Track stated, in his review, "How so many talented people came together here and just so completely whiffed on one of the most incredible stories ever written is beyond me." Comparing it to the Charlton Heston version of 60 years ago is just not possible. Or the weary parade of movie after movie after movie that is nothing but CGI and formula storytelling, all blending together after a time so that after the first few, you can basically predict what is going to happen and when?

Instead of loudly demanding more and more money from fewer and fewer profits, this gaggle of self-absorbed egotists should be focusing on what they are doing wrong and doing all in their power to change it. It can be done well and profitably: recent productions by Angel Studios and other independent film-makers have proven that. But weary formulae and cockeyed avant-garde retellings have been more than proven to be NOT the way.

airstreamingypsy 07-14-2023 08:26 AM

I've been watching the early 80s TV series, St Elsewhere for a few weeks, back then a season was 22 episodes and there are 6 seasons... it's my all time favorite series. So there will still be plenty to amuse us. That said, I've waited too long for Deadpool 3, and since they stopped filming yesterday...... I am really disappointed.

Taltarzac725 07-14-2023 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2235300)
I've been watching the early 80s TV series, St Elsewhere for a few weeks, back then a season was 22 episodes and there are 6 seasons... it's my all time favorite series. So there will still be plenty to amuse us. That said, I've waited too long for Deadpool 3, and since they stopped filming yesterday...... I am really disappointed.

Me too.

Plenty of very good movies coming out will stall in their production. And some actors and actresses and others involved in this strike barely make ends meet. They wait tables, teach, play athletic games, etc.

Chi-Town 07-14-2023 08:43 AM

Think many who don't care if there are any new movies or television shows only watch one channel anyway.

Stu from NYC 07-14-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2235269)
The actors are supporting the writers....they don't make $20 mil.:mornincoffee:

I know but they seem to be doing ok and with demand for writers going down seems like some need to find a new career.

Michael 61 07-14-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2235300)
I've been watching the early 80s TV series, St Elsewhere for a few weeks, back then a season was 22 episodes and there are 6 seasons... it's my all time favorite series. So there will still be plenty to amuse us. That said, I've waited too long for Deadpool 3, and since they stopped filming yesterday...... I am really disappointed.

Agree — so many good old TV series to binge watch - right now, I’m into Adam-12 / Emergency! / Streets of San Francisco / McMillan and Wife / Vega$

scooterstang 07-14-2023 09:15 AM

Only if it interferes with my daily dose of "the Young and Restless" they make all my troubles seem so small on that show! I have been watching since my mom was alive(25 years so far)

kendi 07-14-2023 09:28 AM

No, don’t miss them.


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