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Vermilion Villager 07-26-2023 10:07 AM

Florida records highest water temperature ever
 
This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment

Golfer222 07-26-2023 10:11 AM

Hot in Florida in July- who woulda thunk it ?

Chi-Town 07-26-2023 10:22 AM

Bad news for the coral reefs.

justjim 07-26-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 2238946)
Bad news for the coral reefs.

You might say bad news for Florida and other coastal areas of the United States.

Keefelane66 07-26-2023 11:16 AM

You just don't understand we're in a 9 year cooling trend.

ThirdOfFive 07-26-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2238941)
This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment

Ever?

Ever is a long time.

Why not just "since the temperature of the oceans has been systematically recorded"? Which I couldn't find in the linked "study".

Rule of thumb: Whenever I see words like "always", "never", "everybody", etc. etc. as part of anything purporting to be science, I automatically discount it as emotional hype. I guess we can add "ever" to that list.

margaretmattson 07-26-2023 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2238941)
This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment

Hopefully, no storms will form because of el nino and the Sahara dust. If any do form, TROUBLE! Hurricanes thrive in warm waters and are usually quite large. Not something I am wanting to experience.

Vermilion Villager 07-26-2023 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 2238943)
Hot in Florida in July- who woulda thunk it ?

Not THIS hot!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...ssee-drought/#

Vermilion Villager 07-26-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2238971)
Ever?

Ever is a long time.

Why not just "since the temperature of the oceans has been systematically recorded"? Which I couldn't find in the linked "study".

Rule of thumb: Whenever I see words like "always", "never", "everybody", etc. etc. as part of anything purporting to be science, I automatically discount it as emotional hype. I guess we can add "ever" to that list.

I guess you can dismiss as emotional hype all you want. Thermometers don't lie!

justjim 07-26-2023 03:20 PM

Cool
 
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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2238961)
You just don't understand we're in a 9 year cooling trend.

Interesting Sarcasm.

ThirdOfFive 07-26-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2239007)
I guess you can dismiss as emotional hype all you want. Thermometers don't lie!

Indeed!

I wasn't questioning the accuracy of the thermometers. I was only questioning how long those thermometers have been employed.

Golfer222 07-26-2023 03:35 PM

Bet there will be snow and cold in Minnesota this winter as well

Keefelane66 07-26-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2239016)
Indeed!

I wasn't questioning the accuracy of the thermometers. I was only questioning how long those thermometers have been employed.

Moored buoys have been in use since 1951, while drifting buoys have been used since 1979.
NOAA Buoy Reports App for iPhone &amp Android

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-26-2023 08:25 PM

Manatee Bay isn't the open ocean. It's a mostly enclosed body of water. The surface temperature was measured, and that will always be warmer in the summer when the sun's out, than any of the water beneath the surface temperature. If this was a measurement of the water 3" below the surface say, halfway between Key Largo and the Bahamas, then it'd be newsworthy.

merrymini 07-27-2023 04:29 AM

There is always going to be changes. The problem is, a lot of this change is natural and there is nothing we can do about it.

BoatRatKat 07-27-2023 05:21 AM

Though many like to think that we can control the weather I believe only God has a say in that.

NoMo50 07-27-2023 05:22 AM

I'm sorry, I just can't help it. Every time I hear someone preaching about the latest "findings" regarding climate change, my mind immediately flashes to some late night televangelist: "We are all God's children. He loves us all. He wants a better life for everyone. But, God is broke."

Normal 07-27-2023 05:24 AM

Exactly
 
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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 2239078)
There is always going to be changes. The problem is, a lot of this change is natural and there is nothing we can do about it.

Exactly, what can anyone do about it?

Sully 07-27-2023 05:29 AM

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kcrazorbackfan 07-27-2023 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 2238943)
Hot in Florida in July- who woulda thunk it ?

Well, he is talking about the water temperature, which fuels the bigger systems. Probably did it as an FYI for the new people here.

Daddymac 07-27-2023 05:55 AM

The earth been warming up since the end of the Ice Age.. NOW THATS A FACT!!

Blackbird45 07-27-2023 06:07 AM

Climate change, global cooling, global warming, there is no doubt there is something happening. The question that remains on the table is if man is directly responsible. Now I'm not a scientist, but the majority of the scientist are claiming that we are responsible.
The general public in this country spends billions and billions of dollars on beauty, products, vitamins, hair lose shampoos, you name it they'll buy it with very little evidence that any of them work. Yet here we are confronted with what many said could be a looming disaster and at least once a month it is argued on this site if it is real or if there is anything that can be don't. I myself always side on prevention, especially when it comes to my grandson's future. There are things we can do here, and the global community can add financial pressure on the countries that do not meet a specified standard. Now personally I could state this has no effect on me directly since I do not go out in the noon day sun but come the end of this year, I'm going to have to find a new company for home insurance, since Farmers has decided Fl. is no longer a good bet.

NotGolfer 07-27-2023 06:24 AM

Chicken Little anyone?? There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about the weather! Warning? Not even the weather-persons get it right 100% of the time.

Southwest737 07-27-2023 06:25 AM

Fake news? Current ocean water temperature in Florida

Normal 07-27-2023 06:42 AM

WP
 
There is a reason the Washington Post is going into bankruptcy court. Their poor biased reporting killed them off with topics just like this one.

HoosierPa 07-27-2023 06:58 AM

My pool temperature this morning is 82 and will be about 85 at 3 pm. I’m going to enjoy it during my remaining days on earth and not worry about the ocean temperature too much unless I have spare time.

Bay Kid 07-27-2023 07:05 AM

Not to worry August is coming.

Bill14564 07-27-2023 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Southwest737 (Post 2239117)

I'll trust the NOAA buoy data. On the NOAA page I can see the location where the reading was taken, hourly data, a graph of the last five days, and readings from neighboring buoys.

All I can see on the seatemperature page is a single number. I believe the page claims to have historical data (the English is poor) but I cannot seem to find it.

Tcole 07-27-2023 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2239124)
There is a reason the Washington Post is going into bankruptcy court. Their poor biased reporting killed them off with topics just like this one.

Biased reporting?!?

It’s the pot calling the kettle black folks!

rrthoresen 07-27-2023 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2239016)
Indeed!

I wasn't questioning the accuracy of the thermometers. I was only questioning how long those thermometers have been employed.

how about where the thermometers are located

Wondering 07-27-2023 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2238941)
This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment

So much for the Global Warming & Climate Change deniers. Keep warming the oceans and gulf and see the increase in hurricanes, not to mention our homeowner insurance premium increases.

Bill14564 07-27-2023 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rrthoresen (Post 2239136)
how about where the thermometers are located

The article mentions the MNBF1 buoy. Google it then go to the NOAA page where you will find it on a map.

Whitley 07-27-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2238983)
Hopefully, no storms will form because of el nino and the Sahara dust. If any do form, TROUBLE! Hurricanes thrive in warm waters and are usually quite large. Not something I am wanting to experience.

A hurricane would reduce the water temperature. Perhaps hope for a fish hurricane.

Whitley 07-27-2023 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2239007)
I guess you can dismiss as emotional hype all you want. Thermometers don't lie!

What would you suggest we do about it?

justjim 07-27-2023 08:32 AM

That great philosopher Andy Rooney said it best. “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”.

Golfer222 07-27-2023 08:51 AM

Dont know about "ever"--Seems like there was a hotter day about 13.8 billion years ago

Normal 07-27-2023 08:56 AM

Awesome
 
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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2239167)
That great philosopher Andy Rooney said it best. “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”.

I always loved his ability to slice through the garbage people and the media dished out. It was the best part of 60 minutes to watch.

Blueblaze 07-27-2023 09:20 AM

EVER? Does that count the time Florida was part of the Atlantic Ocean and Dinosaurs ruled the Earth?

Or just the last 50 years since we've taken the temp with satellites? Or do you mean the last 100 years since we started measuring the ocean with thermometers? Seems like a pretty short "ever"!

Funny, though. Most of the previous "records" seem to be from the 1930's -- before most of the world discovered automobiles and air conditioning, and we started making up names for hurricanes.

Any guesses as to what caused 1932 to be such a hot year? Or how about that giant hurricane that wiped Galveston from the map in 1900 and killed 12,000 people? Was that because the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere exceeded 0.4% from all the horse flatulence before cars were invented?

I have to admit, the level of horse and bull emissions seems to be much higher these days!

NewRealms 07-27-2023 09:24 AM

Thank goodness for El Nino, Sahara Desert, and Jet Stream Wind shear. Should offset the warm waters in the Atlantic... for a while.

rsibole 07-27-2023 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2238941)
This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment

Two words - data points.

Fact, shallow water is warmer than deep water. Temperature previously taken in ten foot of water but now taken in six inches of water to prove someone’s point of view is certainly possible to have been done, especially in light of the other data point manipulations we seen in polls, surveys and reporting.

Conclusions drawn from manipulated data points are false, like the need to eliminate gas cooking stoves and raise taxes to cool the ocean is necessary.

Proven facts, like ocean currents and underwater volcanic activity, do cause localized changes (data points). However, change is constant and unavoidable. Changes are the result of self canceling activities over an entire spectrum. It’s often referred to as “nature” but in fact is natural law. And unlike man’s laws, natural laws cannot be broken or altered by man.

If it were not for change, natural laws, there would be no oceans, no gas stoves and no you or me.


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