Which entity to pay the $15,000,000 or $12,620,000 for Morse Blvd. golf cart lane
 

Which entity will pay for the Morse Blvd golf cart lane?
I recognize it will eventually be paid by the taxpayers, but curious which entity initially foots the tab? County??

Myself like a lot of folks here have reviewed the Morse Blvd proposals which provide essentially 3 options

Alternative 1 $15,280,000+/-
Alternative 2 $12,620,000+/-
Alternative 3, $0, leave as is

Where is Morris Blvd?

Right next to Boner Vister Street.

Probably the same people who pay for the Route 44 sidewalks or the US 441 sidewalks. Can you imagine the hordes of people who will walk these sidewalks?

That would be State money... FDOT...

The AAC.

The AAC doesn't own Morse Blvd., the county does.

But I like your logic----perhaps you are willing to pay for my landscaping revision?????

LOL, Good one!

One of the AAC members proposed that they take over all the MMPs north of 466, but it went nowhere. The engineering report indicated that Sumter County was not interested in paying for an MMP, so it would fall on District 1 to pay for it.

Way too big of an expense for one district to pay for, especially for improvements that would benefit many other districts in the vicinity.

Maybe they can come up with an alternative to the proposed job. At the very least, a tunnel under Morse, from the entrance of Tierra del Sol and over where the golf cart path picks up. That would eliminate the need for golf carts to cross Morse at all to get to the golf cart path, if they're heading south. And it'd eliminate the need for golf carts to cross Morse at all if they're coming north and want to go to Tierra del Sol.

I live South of 466 so no, I won't be paying for a MMP on Morse because some people don't know how to drive.

Are you sure about that?

Don’t the AAC own narrow strip of land under the bridge but not the water. You know the part that eroding.

I would not say won’t yet?

No, the AAC will skate on that since it's South of 466. The SLCDD owns that. I think.

AGREE ! ! That's a really definite word. Seems to me, one way or another, no matter where you live, if you pay any types/categories of taxes at all...you do end up paying for things you never dreamed you'd pay for !

My understanding from credible info it is a county road, thus I could see the narrative of county tax payers footing the bill.

Link below to the study, starts on page 34 -35

District 1 Agenda Packet.pdf - Google Drive

Marion County Issue
 

The entirety in question is in Sumter County. Does all of Sumter want to pay for The Villages entitled golf cart drivers? That would include local cities not in The Villages like Wildwood, Bushnell, Panaoffskee, Webster and then the Villages in the South that would never utilize the area. Perhaps it should be placed on a ballot. In short, fat chance. I doubt anyone will want to pay for the lanes.

This is so unnecessary. Never going to happen.

Agree county owns and maintains the road. Per report, Sumter County will not pay anything. Live in this area and can't imagine how many Sumter County residents would be complaining about modifying a road so that several hundred golf cart drivers will be safer.

IF this comes to fruition it will probably be paid for by some type of tax/assessment/increased fee(s) and will not be the responsibility of Sumter County. To make matters worse, this would only help the golf cart drivers and passengers on this section of Morse.

And this area serves very few people. I live in this area and only use cart to play golf

Considering 80% of property tax revenue in Sumter County comes from TV and that TV is now paying for it's own ambulance and fire protection as well as Sumter County's...

Yes
 

But, most Villagers wouldn’t back the expense for that secluded corner and the entire population has a right to vote on it. You are talking about an improvement where about only 1% of the population would enjoy the improvement. Cars are available, there isn’t a need to drive golf carts around in resort style atmosphere for the entitled few. If those people want it in their district, they can pay for it, don’t ask the rest of us to foot that monstrosity of a bill.

This is actually a valid point. If I lived in that area and believed that it was dangerous to golf carts, I would take my car. I would only take my golf cart when headed to the course. Less time equals less chance of trouble. Now multiply that times everyone.

A question and an observation:

Why do you refer to Villages cart drivers as "entitled"?

And, the population 2023 Sumter Co census bureau estimate is 140,500 and that of the villages (all three counties) is 135,000, with the majority in Sumter Co. Why would you assume a ballot referendum would have a "fat chance"?

1%???????

Probably half of the Villages population of 135,000 use Morse in a golf cart at one time or another. And again with the "entitlement". Where do you live???? And why are you so jealous of those that live here????

Off Meggison South of 44 and yes we have paths that parallel 44 that we are paying for through our bonds. You do realize most people who live outside The Villages in Sumter county have zero interest in footing the bill for an extra luxury of additional golf cart paths for the golf cart riding Villagers, right? Calculating 1%, I measure the slim amount of The Villages population even living in that sector and then the addition of how many of that population even utilize carts, and then how many would actually utilize the path. Hey, if CDD 1 wants a path, create a bond for just them and make them pay for it. Don’t ask the rest of us to pay for it. Heck, we just got hit with the strong possibility of an additional 300 plus per year for fire departments.

Lets erect toll booths on Morse Blvd like the ones used in the movie Blazing Saddles and call the road, The Morse/Schwarz tollway.

By that reasoning maybe people who live in the Villages don’t want to pay for the library in Bushnell which 1% of the population might use.

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Apples and Oranges
 

Ya, a library might be more needed than an optional route for optional golf cart transportation? Besides, we are talking about “county” funds and a “county” road all with a several mill dollar price tag. I think the people of Webster, Panasoffkee and Wildwood would all like paved roads, public sewage, public water, high speed internet and many other more crucial items also.

Sorry, I misspoke and meant Morse. We have a few tunnels that go under it and paths that run along it from Meggison all the way up to 466 for the most part.

And 80% of those "county funds" come from The Villages homeowners.

30 years ago, the economy of Sumter County ranked 67th among Florida's 67 counties. Today it ranks 12th. Go ahead, keep denigrating The Villages----like killing the goose that laid the golden egg

ALL golf cart paths were built with bond money. Your CDD had a bond to pay for the infrastructure. The Villages has helped many, but I doubt the city of Wildwood would be interested in adding luxury to a small section of the Villages at Wildwood’s expense. All the Villages wouldn’t necessarily want to step in for an optional golf cart path. Besides, those in the Southern part of the Villages have a much larger bond to pay for infrastructure and are paying for what we have. The northern sections can do the same, besides their bonds were much smaller proportionally.

The bond was smaller 25 years ago just as the price of milk was cheaper, it’s called inflation. And the golf cart “path” on Morse north of 466(for those that want to post about TV but don’t live here) is just a lane alongside the road, so I’m not sure it was built with bond funds

This one made me think.

If the MMPs had been included as they were south of 466, the residents would have paid for them by way of bond payments. So, adding them now falls on the folks (or their replacements) who live in those homes.

Hmmm. Not an unreasonable assertion.

Why not Sumter County? It would seem that price would be a “drop in a bucket” to a county where so much development is taking place.