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Tvflguy 09-08-2023 10:14 AM

Irritating environmental protesters
 
Crazy nutty out of control environmental protesters around the world.

You may have seen these nuts on your news sources. Throwing paint and stuff on museum paintings. Barricading roads. Protests. AND… gluing hands and feet etc to roads or floors.

Current example at the US Open tennis tournament in NY last night. A 40 minute delay due to protesters in the stands screaming etc. 4 idiots. One actually glued their feet to the floor. So play disrupted due to these out of control crazies.

What do they accomplish? And who funds these nut jobs. OK protest to your hearts content but do NOT impact others.

If I was in charge last night, kick the 3 out of the stadium as they did. And leave the glued-feet nut job right there all night. Sweep the floor around them. Bye bye. Idiots.

retiredguy123 09-08-2023 10:29 AM

The answer is to arrest and prosecute them, and give them a long prison sentence. But, today there is very little accountability for people who commit crimes.

Stu from NYC 09-08-2023 10:32 AM

Arrest and prosecute and keep the glued idiot there until he can get himself off the floor.

Bill14564 09-08-2023 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2254498)
Crazy nutty out of control environmental protesters around the world.

You may have seen these nuts on your news sources. Throwing paint and stuff on museum paintings. Barricading roads. Protests. AND… gluing hands and feet etc to roads or floors.

Current example at the US Open tennis tournament in NY last night. A 40 minute delay due to protesters in the stands screaming etc. 4 idiots. One actually glued their feet to the floor. So play disrupted due to these out of control crazies.

What do they accomplish? And who funds these nut jobs. OK protest to your hearts content but do NOT impact others.

If I was in charge last night, kick the 3 out of the stadium as they did. And leave the glued-feet nut job right there all night. Sweep the floor around them. Bye bye. Idiots.

They got themselves on the news - that's probably exactly what they wanted to accomplish.

Agree - protest all you want but do not impact others. Some will see the news and start following them; I will see them impacting others and become determined to not give them the satisfaction.

Topspinmo 09-08-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2254506)
Arrest and prosecute and keep the glued idiot there until he can get himself off the floor.

Have gag him. Also need to go after who funding them as accessories.

Topspinmo 09-08-2023 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2254498)
Crazy nutty out of control environmental protesters around the world.

You may have seen these nuts on your news sources. Throwing paint and stuff on museum paintings. Barricading roads. Protests. AND… gluing hands and feet etc to roads or floors.

Current example at the US Open tennis tournament in NY last night. A 40 minute delay due to protesters in the stands screaming etc. 4 idiots. One actually glued their feet to the floor. So play disrupted due to these out of control crazies.

What do they accomplish? And who funds these nut jobs. OK protest to your hearts content but do NOT impact others.

If I was in charge last night, kick the 3 out of the stadium as they did. And leave the glued-feet nut job right there all night. Sweep the floor around them. Bye bye. Idiots.

I’m afraid it’s only going to get worse. IMO got to go after who funding them as accessories. Take money away and the protest will evaporate.

retiredguy123 09-08-2023 10:46 AM

If they knew they were going to spend 5 to 10 years in prison, do you really think they would be protesting illegally?

margaretmattson 09-09-2023 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2254518)
If they knew they were going to spend 5 to 10 years in prison, do you really think they would be protesting illegally?

What about the crazy kids putting graffiti on national monuments? Their excuse goes something like this. I had no idea the Collosseum was a historical monument nor how old it was. My deepest and sincere apologies to all Italians. What did they think they were visiting? Universal Studios or Disneyland? If I was there, I would have bought them more glue giving the police more time to arrive. Then sat back and watched in amusement.

Bertram00 09-09-2023 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2254498)
Crazy nutty out of control environmental protesters around the world.

You may have seen these nuts on your news sources. Throwing paint and stuff on museum paintings. Barricading roads. Protests. AND… gluing hands and feet etc to roads or floors.

Current example at the US Open tennis tournament in NY last night. A 40 minute delay due to protesters in the stands screaming etc. 4 idiots. One actually glued their feet to the floor. So play disrupted due to these out of control crazies.

What do they accomplish? And who funds these nut jobs. OK protest to your hearts content but do NOT impact others.

If I was in charge last night, kick the 3 out of the stadium as they did. And leave the glued-feet nut job right there all night. Sweep the floor around them. Bye bye. Idiots.

Not defending some of the examples you site, but how effective exactly is protest which doesn't impact others?

rpalumberi 09-09-2023 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2254504)
The answer is to arrest and prosecute them, and give them a long prison sentence. But, today there is very little accountability for people who commit crimes.

100% agree

defunding the police is the insanity that prevents law & order - guess who champions that movement, God help us

ThirdOfFive 09-09-2023 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2254518)
If they knew they were going to spend 5 to 10 years in prison, do you really think they would be protesting illegally?

Except that they won't, and they know it.

Cornball shenanigans have always been a time-honored method of calling attention to some "cause" or other. A few years back, in Minnesota and (I believe) North Dakota, a few scruffy treehuggers got themselves in the news by chaining themselves to various implements and structures which were to be used to replace a deteriorating oil pipeline. I believe that some of the protesters even chained themselves to a fence at the Minnesota Capitol building in St. Paul. Never quite saw the logic in protesting against replacing an existing proven leaky pipeline with new sound one, but in any case the scruffy bunch got their usual drooling media coverage. I remember the outcry against their antics , but it didn't matter. There were certainly enough chargeable crimes in that entire mess to keep local courtrooms busy for quite awhile. But aside from droning a few platitudes and administering a few slaps on the wrists, the local law did nothing, and things just dragged on--and on--and on.

Maybe some things are still pending. I don't know. But you can bet the farm that the more time passes, the less likely anything will be done to address the various crimes that these folks engaged in.

Sandy and Ed 09-09-2023 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertram00 (Post 2254683)
Not defending some of the examples you site, but how effective exactly is protest which doesn't impact others?

Well let us see……maybe we should protest them and their individual actions and I guess to be effective we would then have to “impact” them severely. But then we for the most part are civilized and respectful of others. As I said….for the most part or at least most times unless provoked

Taltarzac725 09-09-2023 07:00 AM

A couple of yahoos actually hurting the message about Global Warming they were trying to send.

Looks like there were four of these protesters.

She handled it with class. Coco Gauff 'can't really get upset' at climate protesters who caused 45-minute delay in her US Open semifinal | CNN

airstreamingypsy 09-09-2023 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mdmurrell (Post 2254709)
Law and order is fast becoming a central issue. It’s the passive acceptance of crime in our major cities, public events and across the world. Guess who I’m voting for in 2024?

The party that stormed the Capitol? Hurt 140 police officers? Smeared feces on the hallowed halls?

Ptmcbriz 09-09-2023 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2254498)
Crazy nutty out of control environmental protesters around the world.

You may have seen these nuts on your news sources. Throwing paint and stuff on museum paintings. Barricading roads. Protests. AND… gluing hands and feet etc to roads or floors.

Current example at the US Open tennis tournament in NY last night. A 40 minute delay due to protesters in the stands screaming etc. 4 idiots. One actually glued their feet to the floor. So play disrupted due to these out of control crazies.

What do they accomplish? And who funds these nut jobs. OK protest to your hearts content but do NOT impact others.

If I was in charge last night, kick the 3 out of the stadium as they did. And leave the glued-feet nut job right there all night. Sweep the floor around them. Bye bye. Idiots.

Most anti-democratic countries like communist China, and fascist Russia, don’t allow their citizens the full freedom of protesting. They end up in prison. Be careful for what you ask for taking away one’s freedom of protest. It’s the core of great democracy. It doesn’t matter if you agree, or disagree with what they are protesting about. Cheer their right to disagree and get attention towards their passion.

Taltarzac725 09-09-2023 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2254730)
Most anti-democratic countries like communist China, and fascist Russia, don’t allow their citizens the full freedom of protesting. They end up in prison. Be careful for what you ask for taking away one’s freedom of protest. It’s the core of great democracy. It doesn’t matter if you agree, or disagree with what they are protesting about. Cheer their right to disagree and get attention towards their passion.

Nicely put. Free Speech is important but also often has dire consequences. It is not FREE.

retiredguy123 09-09-2023 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2254730)
Most anti-democratic countries like communist China, and fascist Russia, don’t allow their citizens the full freedom of protesting. They end up in prison. Be careful for what you ask for taking away one’s freedom of protest. It’s the core of great democracy. It doesn’t matter if you agree, or disagree with what they are protesting about. Cheer their right to disagree and get attention towards their passion.

Protesting legally is fine, but you should not be able to break the law, destroy property, and take away the rights of others without being held accountable.

kansasr 09-09-2023 07:22 AM

Imaging the audacity of inconveniencing millionaire tennis players and people who pay $2000 to watch them over something as trivial as leaving a habitable planet for future generations......

ThirdOfFive 09-09-2023 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2254730)
Most anti-democratic countries like communist China, and fascist Russia, don’t allow their citizens the full freedom of protesting. They end up in prison. Be careful for what you ask for taking away one’s freedom of protest. It’s the core of great democracy. It doesn’t matter if you agree, or disagree with what they are protesting about. Cheer their right to disagree and get attention towards their passion.

I (and I doubt the majority of others who post here) have no problem with protesting, as long as it is done within the law. Cities have laws that govern where, when and how a protest must be conducted. But for example when your "protest" closes down a major freeway and blocking traffic for more than an hour (as I have personally witnessed), or other such actions that impede commerce or (as in all too many cases) endangers lives, then it is no longer a protest but instead, civil disobedience, with legal penalties that vary from state to state.

Sure. Protest. But don't trample on the rights or the well-being of others in the process.

Caymus 09-09-2023 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2254741)
Imaging the audacity of inconveniencing millionaire tennis players and people who pay $2000 to watch them over something as trivial as leaving a habitable planet for future generations......

They should sue the protesters and their enablers.

TonyM 09-09-2023 07:32 AM

Solution:
1st offense, two years in prison
2nd offense, five years in prison

Two Bills 09-09-2023 07:45 AM

I wonder how many posters on TOTV were Nuclear Disarmament and Ban the Bomb or anti-Vietnam War protesters when that was all the rage?
They weren't exactly law abiding, or disruption free.

Stu from NYC 09-09-2023 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2254740)
Protesting legally is fine, but you should not be able to break the law, destroy property, and take away the rights of others without being held accountable.

Very true

Wondering 09-09-2023 07:58 AM

"Good" point! Reminds me of the January 6, 2021 idiots. Wonder who funded those losers!

44Apple 09-09-2023 08:06 AM

Yeah, like the Patriots throwing tea into the Boston Harbor.

Lukim 09-09-2023 08:29 AM

Defunding the police is misleading. They are not defunding but reallocating the funds within the police.

Two Bills 09-09-2023 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 2254765)
Yeah, like the Patriots throwing tea into the Boston Harbor.

That was truly sacrilege.
Anyone destroying tea should be shot on sight!

tophcfa 09-09-2023 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 2254765)
Yeah, like the Patriots throwing tea into the Boston Harbor.

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2254783)
That was truly sacrilege.
Anyone destroying tea should be shot on sight!

It was flipping tea, not beer?

Taltarzac725 09-09-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2254751)
I wonder how many posters on TOTV were Nuclear Disarmament and Ban the Bomb or anti-Vietnam War protesters when that was all the rage?
They weren't exactly law abiding, or disruption free.

I recall going to a protest in Colorado in 1983 or 1984 where we were trying to create a human wall around something or other but not sure what exactly it was. I think it had something to do with an ammo dump but not sure.

Actually this was it. I was probably trying to impress some fellow U of Denver female student or maybe my old neighbor from the Milwaukee area who had moved to Denver whom I caught up with while there.

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Vermilion Villager 09-09-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2254498)
Crazy nutty out of control environmental protesters around the world.

You may have seen these nuts on your news sources. Throwing paint and stuff on museum paintings. Barricading roads. Protests. AND… gluing hands and feet etc to roads or floors.

Current example at the US Open tennis tournament in NY last night. A 40 minute delay due to protesters in the stands screaming etc. 4 idiots. One actually glued their feet to the floor. So play disrupted due to these out of control crazies.

What do they accomplish? And who funds these nut jobs. OK protest to your hearts content but do NOT impact others.

If I was in charge last night, kick the 3 out of the stadium as they did. And leave the glued-feet nut job right there all night. Sweep the floor around them. Bye bye. Idiots.

Yep.....and remember the screaming idiot rioters on Jan 6th who stormed the US Capitol and attacked our police!!! You do bring up a very good question on who funds those nutjobs? I'm thinking we're about to find out!!! :crap2:

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-09-2023 08:48 AM

Remember when that bat-sh.t insane woman handcuffed herself to the front doors of Twitter headquarters in New York?

More recently - a bunch of actual American Nazis in Florida waving their flags and wearing their nazi insignia pins and patches doing the heil hitler thing over the underpass to cars driving below (which distracts the drivers and can cause car accidents).

Or nazis in Florida yelling at the crowds that "Jews will not replace us" - basically terrorizing passersby.

Yes it's definitely getting worse. And the government is "standing by" while it happens.

tophcfa 09-09-2023 08:52 AM

Villagers mount an annual protest in mid December when the winter Championship golf green fees are announced.

Bill14564 09-09-2023 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2254814)
OK....what about Jan 6th?

What about it? If you are talking about breaking into the Capitol building, the law was broken in that case.

Caymus 09-09-2023 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jokomo (Post 2254816)
And it appears the largest “Defund the police” advocates are the Republicans in Congress.

Please provide details and credible links.

Pat2015 09-09-2023 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2254729)
The party that stormed the Capitol? Hurt 140 police officers? Smeared feces on the hallowed halls?

That’s not a party that’s some whack jobs that went too far and they are not representative of an entire party. Many examples could be provided for the other party’s bad behavior as well if that’s your position. Fact is that most people in this country are middle of the roaders, but a candidate doesn’t exist for us leaving us with far left and right wackos on both sides of aisle. God help us all given the two fools that are currently running! We as a country deserve better 😢

scooterstang 09-09-2023 09:29 AM

My take on the situation would be anyone who glues themselves to the floor or ground(deserves fire ants) those little suckers hurt but won't kill ya.

Two Bills 09-09-2023 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2254787)
It was flipping tea, not beer?

Bud Light?

roadrnnr 09-09-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2254824)
Please provide details and credible links.

He won't cause there isn't any

Stu from NYC 09-09-2023 10:02 AM

We have laws for a good reason. When they are broken the people doing so should be punished.

jimbomaybe 09-09-2023 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukim (Post 2254782)
Defunding the police is misleading. They are not defunding but reallocating the funds within the police.

And it has been a great success, crime is way up and arrests are way down


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