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Twinsull 10-09-2023 10:42 AM

Propane tanks
 
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Checking to see if anyone else in the Villages has a view of Propane tanks in their back yard. I can’t believe this would be allowed. Comments?

retiredguy123 10-09-2023 10:57 AM

It appears as though the propane tanks are too close to the house to comply with the Florida code. Also, the generator may be too close to a window. It really depends on the size of the tanks.

Keefelane66 10-09-2023 11:24 AM

Should be reported to Community Standards its an obvious not to Florida Code.

Bill14564 10-09-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2264020)
Should be reported to Community Standards its an obvious not to Florida Code.

Can you post a link to that code so we all could understand it?

retiredguy123 10-09-2023 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2264023)
Can you post a link to that code so we all could understand it?

Not the actual code, but this website has some good information.

All About Propane Tanks: Regulations, Sizes and Placement

Bill14564 10-09-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2264024)
Not the actual code, but this website has some good information.

All About Propane Tanks: Regulations, Sizes and Placement

Thank you

Keefelane66 10-09-2023 12:31 PM

“ How far does a propane tank have to be from a house in Florida?

Same with underground propane tanks that hold up to 2,000 gallons: The minimum distance, from either a building or a property line, is 10 feet. For above-ground tanks of 1,000 to 2,000 gallons, the safe distance increases. These must be placed at least 25 feet from a building or property line.Mar 21, 2023”

Bill14564 10-09-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2264020)
Should be reported to Community Standards its an obvious not to Florida Code.

Unless you can point to a Florida code that differs from the code in the link above, these seem to be okay. 100gal tanks have no required distance from the house and only 10ft required to a window. These *seem* to comply with that.

Gpsma 10-09-2023 01:27 PM

What are they using those tanks for?

retiredguy123 10-09-2023 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2264045)
Unless you can point to a Florida code that differs from the code in the link above, these seem to be okay. 100gal tanks have no required distance from the house and only 10ft required to a window. These *seem* to comply with that.

It looks unsightly, but it is probably legal. I would be more concerned about the noise from the generator. I think these generators should be banned, especially in villa neighborhoods.

Bill14564 10-09-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2264056)
It looks unsightly, but it is probably legal. I would be more concerned about the noise from the generator. I think these generators should be banned, especially in villa neighborhoods.

Probably not too loud but....

I remember back in MD during one hurricane the fire station a block away had a generator. It was dark, warm, humid, and all you could hear was the wind in the trees and that darn generator a block away! The noise didn't bother me half as much as knowing they had AC while I didn't.

We already ban too many things around here. I think we ought to have a ban on bans.

dewilson58 10-09-2023 01:38 PM

Looks like a fish hook is trying to be set.

retiredguy123 10-09-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2264059)
Probably not too loud but....

I remember back in MD during one hurricane the fire station a block away had a generator. It was dark, warm, humid, and all you could hear was the wind in the trees and that darn generator a block away! The noise didn't bother me half as much as knowing they had AC while I didn't.

We already ban too many things around here. I think we ought to have a ban on bans.

The Generac in my neighborhood is extremely loud and can be heard from halfway down the street.

ThirdOfFive 10-09-2023 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2264060)
Looks like a fish hook is trying to be set.

Bingo!

One and done?

villagetinker 10-09-2023 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinsull (Post 2264006)
Checking to see if anyone else in the Villages has a view of Propane tanks in their back yard. I can’t believe this would be allowed. Comments?

I would check with ARC to see if approval was granted, and I am sure building and electrical permits were required, you should also be able to confirm these. Art one time you could search the building department website for permits, not sure if you can still do this.

On a side note I have 2 neighbors with propane tanks, and in both cases these are buried.

dewilson58 10-09-2023 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2264075)
On a side note I have 2 neighbors with propane tanks, and in both cases these are buried.

These are call PIGs..........Propane In Ground.
(There are thousands of them in TV)

The OP is call Bait.

:posting:

coffeebean 10-09-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinsull (Post 2264006)
Checking to see if anyone else in the Villages has a view of Propane tanks in their back yard. I can’t believe this would be allowed. Comments?

That squiggly flower bed made me dizzy.

BobnBev 10-09-2023 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by twinsull (Post 2264006)
checking to see if anyone else in the villages has a view of propane tanks in their back yard. I can’t believe this would be allowed. Comments?

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Garywt 10-09-2023 11:02 PM

Those are 275 pound tanks. I would figure the propane company is familiar with the codes. Besides the generator they my have a propane stove, water heater or pool heater. As for the generator, when the power is out who really cares about noise. It is not like they run it everyday to sell back power.

Garywt 10-09-2023 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2264081)
That squiggly flower bed made me dizzy.

And the landscaper must love it…

banjobob 10-10-2023 04:28 AM

Out of front view , not my neighbor OK by me, if I lived next door though.

birdawg 10-10-2023 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinsull (Post 2264006)
Checking to see if anyone else in the Villages has a view of Propane tanks in their back yard. I can’t believe this would be allowed. Comments?

doubt that would be allowed you can’t even have a little cross.

VillagerNut 10-10-2023 05:28 AM

Not to FL code
 
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Originally Posted by Twinsull (Post 2264006)
Checking to see if anyone else in the Villages has a view of Propane tanks in their back yard. I can’t believe this would be allowed. Comments?

Definitely call Community Standards because it is definitely not to Florida code or Villages deed restrictions. All of our deed restrictions say the propane tanks are supposed to be buried. Florida code requires it be a lot further away from home than what the generator or the propane is located on this house.

Retiredsteve 10-10-2023 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2264056)
It looks unsightly, but it is probably legal. I would be more concerned about the noise from the generator. I think these generators should be banned, especially in villa neighborhoods.

Generators are used in emergency situations such as a power outage due to a storm. It doesn't run all the time. Maybe they have a piece of medical equipment that would require it. Bless your heart

huge-pigeons 10-10-2023 06:30 AM

Generators should be allowed in TV, it could be necessity during a storm/hurricane. As for the propane tanks, they are ugly and should be buried further away from the house. In our last 55+ community, anything you added to your house, you had to get your 2 closest neighbors to sign off on the ARC permit. I would never have signed off for this, not only because they are ugly, but have you seen a propane tank explosion? Too close to the houses.

gbs317 10-10-2023 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2264054)
What are they using those tanks for?

It looks like they are there to run the generator and maybe the lack of natural gas in that area dictates propane.

Bill14564 10-10-2023 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by VillagerNut (Post 2264137)
Definitely call Community Standards because it is definitely not to Florida code or Villages deed restrictions. All of our deed restrictions say the propane tanks are supposed to be buried. Florida code requires it be a lot further away from home than what the generator or the propane is located on this house.

Which District are you in? My deed restrictions in District 10 do not mention propane tanks at all.

Please post a citation or a link to the Florida code that requires those tanks or that generator to be farther from the house.

retiredguy123 10-10-2023 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by huge-pigeons (Post 2264148)
Generators should be allowed in TV, it could be necessity during a storm/hurricane. As for the propane tanks, they are ugly and should be buried further away from the house. In our last 55+ community, anything you added to your house, you had to get your 2 closest neighbors to sign off on the ARC permit. I would never have signed off for this, not only because they are ugly, but have you seen a propane tank explosion? Too close to the houses.

Imagine if every house in a villa neighborhood had a Generac and they all came on at the same time. The noise would be unbearable. There is one in my neighborhood, and you can hear it from 5 houses away.

Whitley 10-10-2023 07:15 AM

For 125- to 500-gallon propane tanks, the distance is at least 10 feet – from any building and from any property line. Same with underground propane tanks that hold up to 2,000 gallons: The minimum distance, from either a building or a property line, is 10 feet.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...i&opi=89978449

RRGuyNJ 10-10-2023 07:21 AM

Sitting in the dark
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2264056)
It looks unsightly, but it is probably legal. I would be more concerned about the noise from the generator. I think these generators should be banned, especially in villa neighborhoods.

Yep, ban generators that run a few minutes a week fir maintenance! Yeah, great idea!.
When the lights go out due to a storm, and it will eventually happen, you will wish you had a generator.

Indydealmaker 10-10-2023 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinsull (Post 2264006)
Checking to see if anyone else in the Villages has a view of Propane tanks in their back yard. I can’t believe this would be allowed. Comments?

Were these in place when you bought your house?

retiredguy123 10-10-2023 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2264164)
For 125- to 500-gallon propane tanks, the distance is at least 10 feet – from any building and from any property line. Same with underground propane tanks that hold up to 2,000 gallons: The minimum distance, from either a building or a property line, is 10 feet.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...i&opi=89978449

The tanks in the photo appear to be 120 gallon tanks, which would make them legal located next to the house.

bragones 10-10-2023 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiredsteve (Post 2264144)
Generators are used in emergency situations such as a power outage due to a storm. It doesn't run all the time. Maybe they have a piece of medical equipment that would require it. Bless your heart

Generators don't only run in emergency situations. They also run weekly to "exercise" them.

Dlbonivich 10-10-2023 07:28 AM

Some people with health issues can not be without electricity. They need oxygen or they need air conditioning to maintain their health. Your tolerance of noise would be the least of concern. If they have permits pulled and they were inspected, they are safe. Start there.

JRcorvette 10-10-2023 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2264056)
It looks unsightly, but it is probably legal. I would be more concerned about the noise from the generator. I think these generators should be banned, especially in villa neighborhoods.

I hope you realize that the generator only runs when the power goes out! And that is very rare here.

jabacon6669 10-10-2023 07:32 AM

Propane Tanks and Generators
 
I can only speak from my experience in Maine and New Hampshire. Had a Generac propane generator installed in Maine about 7 years ago, was placed on a pad within a foot of the house. Required to be 10 feet from a window. we had 3 100 gal. tanks, no regulations on how far from the house. They are right against the back of the house. When we moved to New Hampshire last summer (2022) we had a Generac propane installed there. Same regulations, all local and state approved. That was connected to an under ground tank located further away. Not sure on the distance. But it's larger so probably much further away.
As far as noise goes, when you need them, noise is not an issue. Those complaining probably wished they had one. Remember, many people in TV are on some type of medical support, and can't be without electricity. I believe every house should have one.

merrymini 10-10-2023 07:42 AM

I would check on their allowability. If they are okay, there is nothing to be done but I would not want those tanks close to my house either because I would have to look at them or for safety reasons. And people ask why there are rules. They should be buried. I would not spend $15,000 to save $150 worth of food in my refrigerator and give myself another piece of equipment to maintain. I lived through Sandy, you manage. Everybody is so helpless.

Behoult 10-10-2023 07:47 AM

The back-up generator makes zero noise unless there is a power outage. Some installations automatically run a weekly test for 10 minutes - so practically speaking - minor inconvenience for 10 minutes a week. The owner of the home may in fact have a valid medical reason that requires power at all times (oxygen)

Roxbob 10-10-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinsull (Post 2264006)
Checking to see if anyone else in the Villages has a view of Propane tanks in their back yard. I can’t believe this would be allowed. Comments?

Yikes! These r terrible to look at Try ARC committee to get them buried at least !

Vermilion Villager 10-10-2023 08:08 AM

Florida state fire code:
 
6.30.2.3
No part of an underground or mounded ASME container shall be less than 10 ft (3 m) from a building or line of adjoining property that can be built upon.

OMG....what kind of hillbilly trailer park thing they got going on here?!?!?!?!? There's enough propane in those tanks to power that generator for a month!!! And when's the last time we've needed this????

Unless my eyes are deceiving me there is no way those tanks are beyond 10 feet from the house. Depending on who's rocks they are adjacent to the house they may not even be on their own property. A lot of people making a lot of wrong assumptions of what they actually own in these patio villa homes.
If it were me I would not call anybody but the fire department. They'll take care of it.


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