Are these shutoff valves?
 

(see photo)
I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

YES Push in and pull out to turn off and on.

The opposite. Pull out to turn off and push in to turn on.

Use two hands. They are breakable.

When I had Mike Scott Plumbing out for something else, I had those cheap fittings replaced with traditional metal shut-off valves.

Additionally there should be a whole house water shut off valve in the garage.

That is what we did also with all the on/off valves in the house, including the water line for the fridge.

But they are easy to replace with shark bit. IMO vinyl hose the weakest link after 20 or so years.

Probably push on shut-off valves. Like they did mine. Which way why I had licensed plumber do mine to get rid of them. But just installed another brand. After that I done rest myself.

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Default Accor/flowtite push pull valves
I have these in my house. Beings they are approaching 20 years old I don’t feel comfortable due to vinyl hose breakdown. Had plumber do kitchen sink faucet so I got rid of them under kitchen sink.

Watched video on pressure/freeze test of shark bite push-on fittings. The pipe failed every time before the push-on valves, plus they didn’t even leak. Plus the shark bite has steel braided hose instead of vinyl.

So, I am replacing my old vinyl Accor push/pulls with shark bite. I like them cause you can easily remove them without twisting and twisting using the dollar removal tool. I also brought the depth gauge, really didn’t need that just make 1 inch mark on tube for 1/2 inch CPVC so you know it’s pushed on all the way.

This was the the easiest plumbing installation I even done. No drip, no leaks, no errors.

I wouldn’t use them inside wall or under ground or where you can’t see or have access to fitting, but that’s me. Yes, I’m old school plumbing mentality, but when I watched the pressure test every joint, fitting, and line (including copper) failed before the shark bite fitting even leaked let along blew off. I would post pictures but for some reason I can’t post or delete pictures on this site.

When I looked closely under the sink that I paid over 250 bucks for plumber guess what I seen push on valves!
Last edited by Topspinmo; 01-30-2021 at 11:47 AM.

This should explain it or search several posts about them.

A quality builder will always supply a "User Manual" with construction. They're especially needed with Commercial construction, but residential buyers need them also.

That said, you're not going to get that type of quality from a builder in TV ... you're getting cookie-cutter, mass production construction.

Thank you!
I found this on YouTube
plastic push pull water valves - Bing video

We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?

$1,000 would be about $150 for parts, $150 for profit on the parts, and $700 for labor. Even at $100/hour it doesn't seem like the job would take seven hours.

Probably not a bad idea to replace them (I have not but I'm thinking about it) but definitely worth getting additional quotes.

Get quotes from Mike Scott and CPM Plumbing. My neighbor just had all their plastic valves replaced for under $500 on a new-ish Designer home.

They can all easily be replaced with shark bite for less than 100 dollars i(maybe more now with inflation) if you have some knowledge. Search for my old post explains everything With utube video on how to remove them. Mine was an 20 years old before I replaced them. They had no signs of leaks, but I was afraid the vinyl hose was deteriorating only reason I replaced them .

Shutoff valves are less than $10 at Home Depot

If it is not broken, don't fix it. But, if you do, find a better price.

Suggest you replace all with standard valves.

Suggest you replace this with a lever handle valve. The one they give you can be very hard to turn over tine

a handyman can change these out for a MUCH cheaper price. No need to call a plumber.

Yes but certainly not for $100 each. Call Roger A Pearce. 352 572-8954. He did ours. You will be pleasantly surprised with his price to convert all of your push/pull valves

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try to support the valve when you push or pull if you don't the whole valve will come away from the wall.

Don't touch them!
 

I have a 2006 home. I had counter tops in my house replaced. Everyone the plumber attempted to shut off, leaked after he turned them back on. They all had to be replaced. Now I just turn off the main to do any and all plumbing. No more leaks after plumbing work.

Ours are out for off. In for on.

Make sure you know where main and all fixture shut off valves are. Copper pipes deteriorate and fail after about 25-30 years. It’s a common problem in Florida. Mine failed under the house slab beneath a bathroom and flooded 3 rooms because I didn’t know where the main shut off valve was. $30k in damage.

Make sure you know where main and all fixture shut off valves are. Copper pipes deteriorate and fail after about 25-30 years. It’s a common problem in Florida. Mine failed under the house slab beneath a bathroom and flooded 3 rooms because I didn’t know where the main shut off valve was. $30k in damage.

You should really think about replacing these cheap valves.
 

They are cheap builders valves that tend to leak or even break. I replaced all of mine myself. Remember to replace the one supplying water to your fridge.

Oh sure. Hire an amateur, who's unlicensed and uninsured.

Looking for the "MUCH cheaper" price, always seems to work out so well.

You need to watch the ones in the kitchen. When you pull out the kitchen faucet the loop under the sink will catch on the push pull values and you could break them.

Push pull valves
 

I would like to have all mine replaced. Who did your neighbor have do the work?

Note that the typical Villages house has about 10 of these shutoff valves. If you have all of them replaced, make sure the new valves are not leaking. Any valve can leak. I still have the original plastic valves, and, so far, none have leaked. I also have a battery operated water alarm under the sinks, toilets, refrigerator, washer, and water heater. You can buy about 6-8 of these alarms from Amazon for less than $100. A slow leak will sound off an alarm in your house when there is one-sixteenth inch of water on the floor. Cheap peace of mind.

they are push and pull shut off valves.

I sort of agree
 

I kind of agree with you, but then look at the cheap crap and crappy installs they are doing. Brand new homes that are not cheap by any means should never be finished with this ultra low quality product. The licensed contractors that build in the first place don't do the greatest quality work considering the way things move around inside the walls when it comes to these valves! A few straps here and there would hurt at all!

I have 17 of these to replace. Don't forget the garage sink and behind the refrigerator.

I ordered these last week: Brasscraft 1/2 in. CPVC Inlet x 3/8 in. Comp Outlet 1/4-Turn Angle Ball Valve. They have a metal ball valve and glue onto the PCVC. I don't trust shark bite - which is the same type of connection as these popup valves. Should you ever need to replace these, the valve body will unscrew from the CPVC "adapter" part of the valve.

Although this video shows removal on copper pipe, the same technique works on CPVC. Pipe is in better condition after removal than if you spin off the valve.
Super Easy Replacement of plastic valve

In case you haven't noticed, no one has ever accused The Village's Developer of being a quality builder. They throw up junk, as fast and as cheaply as they can.

For most builders, "Building Code" is a bare minimum level of professionalism. For TV builds, "Code" is moving target.

Easy Peasy
 

I have replaced all these valves in our patio villa with a shark bite valve. I'm no plumber, but this was one of the easiest DIY projects I've ever addressed. There is a way the valve can slide off of the pipe, but I found it easier to simply use a small pipe cutter to cut the valve, remove it, and then slide the shark bite valve onto the pipe. Be sure to use a braided metal replacement line from the valve to the faucet or you will be defeating the purpose of having a leakproof system.

Shark bites are available at Ace Hardware, but I was able to purchase several of them in a package through Amazon at a much cheaper rate. I've also replaced all of the valves for my neighbor, so I've become pretty proficient with this project.

You used shark bite fittings and suggest you've improved your original installation?

Most real plumbers would disagree.

Mike Scott Plumbing replaced my water heater using shark bite fittings.
I guess they are not real plumbers?