Villages Adjacent to Coleman
 

We are looking to build around the Eastport area. Having learned recently that the Village of Well Point is likely to be the next area developed after Moultrie Creek, we are excited since it should be a reasonable golf cart ride to Brownwood/Sawgrass/Ednas/Fenney. I am not necessarily concerned about safety, but what should we be concerned about considering the area is adjacent to Coleman?

Nothing to worry bout , living next to a max security federal prison, housing terrorist and other high security inmates.

If you are thinking about buying in that area, I highly recommend that you scout it out, FIRST. In the morning, there is school traffic (3 schools) that can block the roadways. The Marchiing Band practices outside and you can hear it for miles. During games or events, the stadium gets full bringing endless traffic and more noise. Downtown Middleton is just a stone's throw away. I have been told there will be nightly music like our squares. Again, this brings more traffic and noise. It is probably best to wait until other villages in the Eastport area are available. We were going to build in Moultrie Creek. After seeing the traffic and hearing the noise, we have decided to wait.

For years the old HS, had games, bands, and lights from the field. Yet rarely did residents complain about the sounds, or the lights. Why because for years TV residents packed the bleachers cheering home teams. Even if they had zero grandchildren playing. Bands practiced, kids played, we have zero issues with being near schools, or downtown Middleton. It’s not like traffic is 24/7 like a big city, both our boys (St Paul, Louisville) will actually walk instead of driving the traffic). Both went to Middleton sat watching drop offs, bands, practices, enjoyed just being around normal life, and not a bunch of very unhappy grumpy retired people who want zero noise.

I am in Richmond, can still hear the train whistle and wheels couple times a day, but especially at night. Funny I could hear same noise in Caroline (could hear certain bands, Pennacamp, Fernandina.

I am amazed that so many people came from areas that didn’t have traffic, must be why many are so upset with the amount of cars that “Get in their Way”, on the way to grocery, appointments and such.

We lived in an area with farms, lots of lakes, retail and grocery was 1/2 hour away.

Yet my 6.8 mile trek to work could take 11 minutes (emergency call 3am) , or during rush hour up to 45 minutes.

We sat outside on our lot in Richmond (4 streets away from turnpike noise, prior to homes built, we can hear humming of tires, close to the same as BV, but 90% less than backing up to any street in TV.

So before you buy take couple lawn chairs and just sit, if children, music, cars, or cart noise bothers you. Pick something else. Best thing about TV, you can buy, sell, move easily, and make a profit. Average move was 2.5 times, but could be more. We are on our fourth house, have many friends who move every couple years, just to be in the new area.

As far as the Coleman, one does realize prisons are all over the country, yet people live near them, drive by them (sign “don’t pick up hitchhikers), and work at them. Again if you fear being anywhere near where people are behind bars, and a fence, look elsewhere. My guess is if they breakout they will go as fast as they can, heading far away from the fence. Then maybe travel far north TV to grab clothes, and transport. But just my thoughts

View etc
 

I would be more concerned about the cement factory view. If you buy, make sure the rear of your lot doesn’t have that view and it directly faces east.

Would that be the same for water towers, power lines, turnpike view, bridges, back of retail, fire stations, hospitals, free standing EDs (because they use sirens more than the prison).

We have a dying live oak behind our house, maybe we should have rotated the house :shrug: east

Eastward facing lanais are significantly beneficial. After all, you are “living” in the home environment day in and day out.

Sorry thought it was referring to the concrete tower.

Out of four homes in TV not one lanai faced east, one south great in the winter, not here for summer’s, one north, on the cool side, one southwest which was really good because of the view. This house is northeast, Sucks for pool in the winter, summer doesn’t matter.

Ignore the crybaby's. Coleman is surrounded by a forest on the east side. It's quieter and safer than a National Park.

If near Marsh Bend Trail, you may see lights over the trees at night, no different than from any parking area.

Wellpoint is just south of Monarch Grove, more than two miles away from Middleton so no issues with noise there.

This area north of Eastport is a prime location and will be in very high demand. Similar to being close to Sumter Landing. It's within two miles of Magnolia Plaza, Sawgrass, Eastport, Middleton and near multiple new golf courses.

Once Bexeley and Corbin Trail are open (soon), there will be quick, easy access to Sawgrass and the Turnpike. Most of 470 and the Eastport/Middleton area can be avoided during school traffic hour.

The maps at this link might be helpful.

William Vayens Maps

More villages in Eastport will be built. No sense in buying RIGHT NOW if you can wait. I looked at the lots in Moultrie Creek and passed on building there. Check it out, yourself. As you have read, many are warning you that it is not a great spot to build a home. In a few months, lots in prime villages in Eastport will become available. I suggest that you wait. JMHO

And just remember, the Coleman Prison is the ultimate "Gated Community" !!!! :boxing2:

And rock quarries? :22yikes: o wait eventually the rock quarry will be water front property.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

You just need to worry about all the criminals who are NOT locked up. The whole area surrounding TV seems to be a hotbed of drug abuse and all the crime that goes with it.

Lots
 

Be careful Jefc1965. If you consider buying near the cement factory off of Marshbend and 470/ Central Parkway visit the area. There are lots with their rear view facing directly north. Unbelievably, they have a price tag of about 99k. This is the same direction as Coleman prison and the cement factory. I’m not saying you can see the towers or not see them depending on the lot. Just be careful. If I was buying there, I would certainly visit the property for the full ambiance. Here is a shot off google maps. The circled area is the cement factory. Note Marshbend Trail and 470. The towers are very large and tall. IMHO quite ugly also. You can easily distinguish where the prison is.

Coleman is expanding ever since Coleman Crossing was reborn!

What about the blasting at the quarry once a month? That alone would make me move somewhere else.

I would not worry about prisoners escaping! I would be concerned with the nature of the businesses close to my home. If they blast, you will feel it. I lived near a high school field and they can be noisy, players, music, loudspeakers and cheering people. Not for me thanks.

I'm not big on being within eyesight of the High Security Prison. I assume the popularity of Eastport will drive prices higher, may have higher infrastructure bonds, etc. Visit in person, since we chose our location, changed floorplans, etc. after our Lifestyle visit. Seeing and experiencing in person is important. Go around the busier rec centers and assess the noise level, especially the pool and pickle ball areas. Lastly, pay attention to proximately to everything, since you may be in the center of what may become a rental area, and any peace and quiet may be lost if you are too close. Listen to those that are surrounded by renters.

Eastport
 

Our son built his home in Middleton during phase 1 and has not complained about anything you are all complaining about. He loves being there and is an awesome area of TV to live.

Listening to the prison announcements.

i agree-living near Coleman has neither made my life better or worse, it is what it is. what you said about escapees wanting to get as far away as possible brings to mind that george carlin skit he had. & one day maybe the inmates will get golf carts too! :pray:

it more or less sounds like firecrackers, in a series of 2 or 3, maybe twice a week

i've never felt anything, & could only hear it when i was outside,..along with the rooster who lives on warm springs, lol

How many years are left on your incarceration? ;)

😁🤣🤣

We have a rooster too. Can’t figure out what direction it comes from but makes the day bright and early

We were going to purchase in Moultrie Creek in early 2024 but we chose to go ahead and buy in Lake Denham (closed on 1 December). A few reasons for the change were cheaper Bond and house pricing and not wanting to live in a construction zone for several years. I agree with earlier posting that the area below Monarch Grove, the Wellpoint area will be prime and we were hoping that was where TV was going to start building but they chose to go further south. The area around Eastport and Moultrie Creek will be prime area, but not soon enough for us.

Agree, however, Moultrie Creek would be a great location to purchase a rental property.

Maybe the rooster is at that private property that’s in the middle of Richmond because the owner wouldn’t sell to the developer.

If you are adventurous like some, one can always buy now, then enjoy for a year or two. When that special area comes into play move again. Any house in TV for us has zero attachment issues (didn’t raise kids in it and so on) so on we go.

This is #4 and while we say, it’s the last one…until something comes up that’s better.

Expansion
 

This is federal land? There was a prison that actually expanded where we used to live. We saw an electric company down in Citrus Grove that expanded on its land and made things unsightly in the area. We noticed it when we were driving in nearby Newell. The bottom line is, if someone else owns the adjacent property, expect the unexpected.

Wow, four houses in TV! I can appreciate your rationale, but we have approached moving here a bit different. With 27.5 years active duty Army we have packed, moved and unpacked more times than I can remember, and the thought of multiple moves in TV in retirement is not appealing in the least. I'm not saying it won't happen but we have tried to sweat the details to hopefully avoid it. Glad that the adventure for you is going well but my moving adventure meter has been redlined for some time!

We sold our home in the Villages. We are currently renting until we find a good lot to build. If you are in a hurry to start your Villages lifestyle, renting is a good option. You will be able to scout the area before committing to build. Take the warnings the posters have given you, seriously. Moultrie Creek is not the best place to build. Better locations will be available soon.

Supposedly every event at the prison is announced on loudspeakers, following a klaxon-like prelude. So if you are sipping your morning Demi-tasse of expresó on the lanai and you don’t mind the occasional “AH OOO GAGH CELL BLOC B BREAKFAST NOW! announcement, move there and enjoy.

Key word is “Supposedly” unless you are holding a Sheldon sign. Those who live near have actually can give first hand knowledge. So if one is considering moving to area, listen to facts, then scope the area personally

Nonsense, we live near and have never heard a peep.

I've heard that the prison has LOUD horns and other blaring signal devices to signal times for inmates to travel about the compound, lights out, etc. I'm told you'll hear these close to the prison. Do some research. Ask some residents rather that your sales agent.

"I've heard". So you are basing this on a rumor, or have you actually heard the noises you described?

Read post #36, the posted at 1:13pm prior to yours, at 2:01 from an actual resident who lives there. Not what “you heard” probably while in the barber, although I am sure there are juicy tidbits you hear on a regular basis

Translation = I know nothing about the subject.