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AMB444 03-29-2024 03:04 PM

Would like to see NYC again but how safe is it now a days?
 
I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

MrFlorida 03-29-2024 03:25 PM

I would not go there unarmed...hope that answers your question.

Pballer 03-29-2024 03:26 PM

Statistics show that NYC is safer than many of the big cities in Florida. Of course it is not safer than The Villages where most of the residents are too old to commit crime.

LeRoySmith 03-29-2024 03:27 PM

I went once, that's enough.

Shipping up to Boston 03-29-2024 03:33 PM

Going in May. Historically, always super vigilant in NYC, this trip will be no different. It’s never been Disney World nor Mayberry but it’s a great city to visit. I’m usually in Greenwich Village or Little Italy anyway so I would be disappointed if I didn’t see a little underbelly of society on my way there. Don’t be scared off....just be aware

AMB444 03-29-2024 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2316814)
I would not go there unarmed...hope that answers your question.

Lol...thanks! I knew I could count on TV forum to be brutally honest.

AMB444 03-29-2024 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2316821)
I’m usually in Greenwich Village or Little Italy anyway so I would be disappointed if I didn’t see a little underbelly of society on my way there.

That's where my friends and I would hang out. Was a lot of fun!

But I was much younger then and had quicker reflexes if there was trouble. :duck:

Shipping up to Boston 03-29-2024 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2316824)
That's where my friends and I would hang out. Was a lot of fun!

But I was much younger then and had quicker reflexes if there was trouble. :duck:

If you go....

John's of Bleecker St. - Greenwich Village, New York, NY

AMB444 03-29-2024 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2316826)

That looks so dang good! I'm getting the spinach ravioli. :icon_hungry:

frayedends 03-29-2024 03:50 PM

I went last year for a few days. It’s crazy crowded anyplace a tourist would go. It didn’t seem unsafe. At least not from a violence perspective. Watch out for scammers and pick pokets. Don’t go down any dark alleys.

Stu from NYC 03-29-2024 03:50 PM

You should be fine but dont wander away by yourself with nobody around

blueash 03-29-2024 03:53 PM

NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.

fdpaq0580 03-29-2024 04:02 PM

There is an old saying, "you can't go home". Everything changes over time.

AMB444 03-29-2024 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2316831)

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates

Compare The Villages to NYC! Not sure I believe that...

tophcfa 03-29-2024 04:05 PM

Had to go there frequently during my working days. Now retired, don’t have to go there anymore, and won’t ever return. Way too many people in too small of a place.

Two Bills 03-29-2024 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2316834)
Compare The Villages to NYC! Not sure I believe that...

I read the post three times, and never saw that quote.

Shipping up to Boston 03-29-2024 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2316831)
NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.

Totally agree with the latter part of the post. The media, take your pick preys on the uniformed. You know, the ones that watch cable news and fall asleep to the blue screen.

That said, crime statistics are based per capita.....so if little old Podunk KY (not sure if that’s a real one!) , has a double murder/suicide, effectively, for that day at least....is the most dangerous town in the country. You can correct me if that’s wrong but these types of statistics can be misleading and at the least ambiguous

AMB444 03-29-2024 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2316839)
I read the post three times, and never saw that quote.

I went to the link that was provided in that post for comparing two cities. And then put in TV and NYC. Was interesting.

AMB444 03-29-2024 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2316840)

That said, crime statistics are based per capita.....so if little old Podunk KY (not sure if that’s a real one!) , has a double murder/suicide, effectively, for that day at least....is the most dangerous town in the country. You can correct me if that’s wrong but these types of statistics can be misleading and at the least ambiguous

It is interesting how the stats are used to come to these results.

Take a look at St Louis, Kansas City (very dangerous) vs NYC.

Topspinmo 03-29-2024 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2316809)
I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)


TIA

Why? Why do you think they escape from NY when they can? :pepper2:

Badger 2006 03-29-2024 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2316815)
Statistics show that NYC is safer than many of the big cities in Florida. Of course it is not safer than The Villages where most of the residents are too old to commit crime.

Lets see those statistics!

Badger 2006 03-29-2024 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2316831)
NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News



You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.

Today (3/29/24) the Governor of NY was turned away at the wake for slain NYPD Officer Jonathan Diller at a funeral home on Long Island Today. Clapping could be heard as she left. Wanna take the subway when you go there? With the disconnect of law enforcement, and the city and state government, for myself I don’t put much stock in those comparisons.

AMB444 03-29-2024 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2316845)
Why? Why do you think they escape from NY when they can? :pepper2:

:clap2:

Kelevision 03-29-2024 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2316809)
I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

I go fairly often. I’ve never thought about being scared. Just pay attention and you’ll be fine. It’s my favorite city. I’ll be there in Dec. I take the subway alone. Walk the streets alone and have never felt unsafe. ( not recommending you do that ) I’ve felt more unsafe in downtown Orlando.

JMintzer 03-29-2024 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2316867)
I go fairly often. I’ve never thought about being scared. Just pay attention and you’ll be fine. It’s my favorite city. I’ll be there in Dec. I take the subway alone. Walk the streets alone and have never felt unsafe. ( not recommending you do that ) I’ve felt more unsafe in downtown Orlando.

I've visited NYC many, many times. I've always enjoyed the trip, but after a few days, I couldn't wait to leave... The stench of the subways, the filth in the streets wear on you...

Of, late, The National Guard patrolling the subways (due to the increased crime/attacks on the train platforms and in the train cars) give me pause...

The noticeable increase in random women getting punched in the face while walking down a busy street give me pause...

The random attacks, stabbings, shootings, give me pause...

That said, I don't see myself visiting any time soon...

Stu from NYC 03-29-2024 05:48 PM

We do miss it

Miss the outstanding ethnic foods we used to have regularly.

Miss Broadway shows and all the things NYC has to offer.

Still would never move back at this stage of our life

AMB444 03-29-2024 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2316885)
Miss the outstanding ethnic foods we used to have regularly.

I was wondering about this... are there any good Thai, Japanese, Indian, etc places in Ocala?

Thanks everyone for your responses!

blueash 03-29-2024 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badger 2006 (Post 2316855)
Today (3/29/24) the Governor of NY was turned away at the wake for slain NYPD Officer Jonathan Diller at a funeral home on Long Island Today. Clapping could be heard as she left. Wanna take the subway when you go there? With the disconnect of law enforcement, and the city and state government, for myself I don’t put much stock in those comparisons.

So you either believe FBI data, and the methodology is shown, or you can form a conclusion based on news stories that fit your preconceived ideology. Got it.

JMintzer 03-29-2024 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2316893)
So you either believe FBI data, and the methodology is shown, or you can form a conclusion based on news stories that fit your preconceived ideology. Got it.

I'm sure the National Guard was deployed in the subways because the FBI said NYC is safe...

AMB444 03-29-2024 06:36 PM

Oh, and for any history buffs....this is an excellent documentary about NYC.

Watch New York: A Documentary Film | American Experience | Official Site | PBS

Stu from NYC 03-29-2024 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2316889)
I was wondering about this... are there any good Thai, Japanese, Indian, etc places in Ocala?

Thanks everyone for your responses!

No idea but there is a very good Brazilian steak house there. For good Greek go to Tarpon Springs.

Do find Sakura a good Japanese restaurant in the Bubble. Also Kayame and Kung Fu are passable Thai.

AMB444 03-29-2024 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2316915)

Do find Sakura a good Japanese restaurant in the Bubble. Also Kayame and Kung Fu are passable Thai.

Oh yea! I'll have to try them when I get there this fall, thank you!

And yes, I agree with Tarpon Springs for Greek food... it's hard to find good Greek restaurants up here in the upper midwest.

Bogie Shooter 03-29-2024 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2316814)
I would not go there unarmed...hope that answers your question.

There have been Villager’s that post that about going to the squares or grocery shopping……go figure.

CoachKandSportsguy 03-29-2024 07:42 PM

Lived there for a week, commuted from mid town to the USCG at the Battery to take pilot exams.
No trees, no grass, LOTS and LOTS of cement and steel. .


Financial headquarters of my last company was in Brooklyn, took trains from long Island.
People just hang out on the street when there is nothing else to do, and way too many hang out at the same time.
Just a place where there are no redeeming qualities that I can't get better qualities elsewhere.

Driving down in May and going to take i287 western NJ just to avoid getting anywhere near it. .

eh, i rather go places I haven't been before. . Scandinavia is calling. .

tophcfa 03-29-2024 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2316942)
Lived there for a week, commuted from mid town to the USCG at the Battery to take pilot exams.
No trees, no grass, LOTS and LOTS of cement and steel. .


Financial headquarters of my last company was in Brooklyn, took trains from long Island.
People just hang out on the street when there is nothing else to do, and way too many hang out at the same time.
Just a place where there are no redeeming qualities that I can't get better qualities elsewhere.

Driving down in May and going to take i287 western NJ just to avoid getting anywhere near it. .

eh, i rather go places I haven't been before. . Scandinavia is calling. .

You go way closer than I do. Take 84 to 81 in Scranton to loop way far around all the congestion.

Velvet 03-29-2024 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2316893)
So you either believe FBI data, and the methodology is shown, or you can form a conclusion based on news stories that fit your preconceived ideology. Got it.

After having been in NYC, myself, if Moses came down from the hill and said it was safe, I wouldn’t believe it.

bopat 03-29-2024 08:35 PM

See for yourself on the Earthcam Live Times Square Cam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVftxDFol90

Velvet 03-29-2024 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2316949)
See for yourself on the Earthcam Live Times Square Cam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVftxDFol90

Yes, like if I’m going to mug somebody I’ll make sure I do it on live camera…

Stu from NYC 03-29-2024 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2316946)
After having been in NYC, myself, if Moses came down from the hill and said it was safe, I wouldn’t believe it.

Part of the problem is the media has to blast out the news whenever anything bad happens there.

Think NYC is safer than Chicago

Velvet 03-29-2024 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2316951)
Part of the problem is the media has to blast out the news whenever anything bad happens there.

Think NYC is safer than Chicago

It’s not the media, it’s personal experience. Each person I know in the last I don’t know how many years has been mugged or otherwise accosted in the city - not in the suburbs. My cousin-in-law teaches college there and dresses as an “urban gorilla” in his words, to get to his classes safely. And so on. You need to be edgy, you need survival skills to get around that city.

Chicago is a great comparison. When my husband and daughter were driving to Canada on a trip they stopped at a Holiday Inn as they usually do when they are traveling. There was blood on the walls of their room. Not a city they plan to visit too soon again.


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