Lithium Fire Citrus Grove
 

Be careful if you have an electric cart with the new lithium batteries. Don’t leave it plugged in overnight under any circumstances! Yesterday we had fire engines galore up and down Barley Path because of a cart’s batteries catching fire. Electric carts are very dangerous. Be cautious with your new toys, all the bugs are far from worked out.

It would be interesting to know what brand and year the cart was. Might even have been a DIY job, which is scary.

Here we go again!

Is Everyone OK
 

Are the residents and responders all OK? How bad is the garage, house?

Will wait to see information from the fire department.

Still have not had my house burn down while leaving my lithium cart plugged in more than 400 out of the last 456 nights.

[QUOTE=Bill14564;2317594]Will wait to see information from the fire department.

Still have not had my house burn down while leaving my lithium cart plugged in more than 400 out of the last 456 nights.[/QUOTE]

Neither have my lithium powered torch, computer, or cell phone self combusted over many years.
I had an old petrol lawn mower burst into flames once however, that's when I learned that filling the tank with engine running was a not the best way of time saving time!

Ouch! I've been tempted to do that so many times

The salesman at Sumter Landing says the batteries are better???

Is your Dr a PHD in Mechanical enginerering?

Some info. Why do lithium-ion batteries spontaneously combust – Maxworld Power

Another question is where and when? There doesn’t seem to have been any incidents of spontaneous combustion of lithium batteries here in the recent past.

This was the picture of the incident on one of the FB group pages.

Sorry…..I removed pic because it showed the license plate number of the vehicle parked in the driveway.

I blacked out the license plate and house number.

Junk
 

E Z Go, Samsung lithiums for cart batteries. Interesting though, is that a 2023? Sad to see the family car got it along with the house too. Hope insurance covers all. Wish them the best.

Taillights and fender flare make it look like an Evolution cart.

Don't see much evidence of a lithium battery fire in that photo? No body damage. Even the side screens appear intact.on't Lithium batteries burn until they burn out?

Who starts these rumors? I leave my cart plugged in always. I also leave my electric bikes, cell phones, drill, circular saw, sander, and polisher, all of which are lithium powered plugged in 24/7 when not using them. Gas carts are much more likely to catch fire than an electric cart. I'm not even sure if the lithium fire story is true at all. There has been ZERO news stories on any fires in TV.

Yet?

[QUOTE=dhdallas;2317800]Who starts these rumors? I leave my cart plugged in always. I also leave my electric bikes, cell phones, drill, circular saw, sander, and polisher, all of which are lithium powered plugged in 24/7 when not using them. Gas carts are much more likely to catch fire than an electric cart. I'm not even sure if the lithium fire story is true at all. There has been ZERO news stories on any fires in TV.[/QUOTE

I see you like to Gambler :D

I have an ez go lithium cart with no issues. I also have 2 e-bikes with no issues. You can’t over charge them. If someone leaves them plugged in constantly, I could see how a fire might start. Like with everything, you need to do your research.

While I heard all the sirens I never saw any smoke.

I differ with your opinion on lithium batteries.
 

I converted my GEM car over to lithium batteries several years ago and have been very happy with the setup. I tripled the miles I was getting per charge and no stinking fumes to smell. If there is a problem with leaving it plugged in it is in how the charge system is setup and not the batteries. When they are finished charging the charger should shut off completely.

Remember the Android phone fires / restrictions a few years ago? You couldn’t take certain Android phones on a plane because they could ignite?

The Most Surprising Cell Phone Fire Statistics And Trends in 2024 • Gitnux

Solving the challenge of EV fires.

The chargers are smart chargers and stop charging when the batteries are fully charged and slow down to a trickle down at 80% full.

Also, they can ignite while in operation. Example, transit bus fire in Connecticut approximately 2 years ago while on duty. Be careful.

Don't leave your Onedays and Kia in the garage either, because millions of them can burst into flames.....oh wait, they are gas and it is a brake leak problem. But they are gas driven. No gas vehicles in the garage because they create fires too.....😜

Recall: Millions of Kia, Hyundai Vehicles for Fire Risk | NHTSA

Maybe that’s not the cart?

Yes, but that’s maintenance malpractice problem from factory.

I shouldn't sleep in the house either. Spontaneous human combustion!

Advice
 

It’s just advice. I have advised several throughout my career not to smoke also. Some developed cancer, others died of old age or other causes. When lithium batteries become safer, this shouldn’t be a problem. Of course the future may not even have lithium in the picture.

I've seen plenty of photos of gas cart fires in The Villages that look a heck of a lot worse than the cart in this photo.

Probably fake news

geez, people, even I, have grown more educated about lithium, since a friend has purchased a lithium ion RV. Now I am not so scared about getting the non combustible lithium iron batteries (LiFePO4 chemistry).There are lithium ion batteries which can combust and lithium ion which can't combust. The combustable from the initial chemistries has slowly been improved and replaced with better systems and chemistries.

While i don't have total authority bias, meaning only authorities can be correct and listened to, in comparison to first have knowledge or sources, can we find out from the home owners what actually burned up?

And for those looking to convert from Lead Acid, which also burns, to non combustible Lithium ion, here is a great starter page for the cost and the safety. . I am converting as soon as I have saved up the money for sure. . huge weight savings and battery longevity. And no, I don't perform any financial analysis /payback analysis for personal choices of lifestyle. . financial concept is not applicable. ERROR#N/A

Golf Cart Batteries | Dakota Lithium Batteries

chemistry comparison
LifePO4 vs. Lithium Ion Batteries - Dakota Lithium Batteries

education is key and continuing education is how your brain is re-programmed. .

Was there
 

No, I was a few house down enjoying Easter dinner when it happened. There were quite a few emergency vehicles there including ambulances. Our hosts Facebook confirmed most of the incident pulsePoint also had notifications. There was a lot of “fire” power at the scene.

we got that part already,

where / how did the fire start and what burned up at the source?

that's all that matters. . .

Which Cart
 

I’m about 99% sure discussions around us were about which cart was involved. That’s all I got. I understand your concern. I will share if I find out for the benefit of all, but not as anything else.

I seem to remember the salesman telling my husband that there is a regulator, or safety feature, on his lithium batteries that would prevent combustion like that.

Yep.

1. - The picture shows the main garage door was cut out, probably to allow access to the fire, but there is no sign of the golf cart door which implies it may have remained intact.
2. - The driver's side of the vehicle appears to be burned which puts the fire between the vehicle and the golf cart but the car itself did not ignite. Might be just soot from the smoke that will wash right off.
3. - There is no hole burned through the roof of the garage.
4. - It is hard to see the golf cart to tell what damage there may be but it appears to still have a golf-cart shape to it and is still on its wheels which is more than can be said for the gas carts that have burned.

If this was a lithium battery fire it was certainly not typical of the horror-film fires popular on YouTube and Tik-Tok.

It would be nice to hear an official report of what burned and what started the fire.

They would have lived longer if they didn’t smoke. Yuliy Borisovich Famous last words! “Just don’t Smoke”

Could have been short unrelated to batteries?