Non golfers paying for course repairs.
 

Michael writes that he does not play golf, therefore he resents amenities paying for golf course repairs. Well…… using his logic why should I pay for :
1) all the rec centers I don’t visit
2) the pickle ball courts I don’t play
3) the tennis courts I don’t use
4) the employees working at the squares at night that I don’t attend
5) swimming pools I don’t play in.
6) and on and on…..

Your saying exactly what I was thinking.

I hear this a lot from people that join country clubs...'why should I pay for alcohol when I don't drink'. Read the fine print before you sign up or onto anything.

"logic".............Where??? Not seeing any.

I’ve been here off and on for 20 something years , I don’t golf or use the pools and hardly ever go to the rec centers , but I do love the flowers and the well kept up outdoor spaces and for the most part the up keep of everyone’s home . The greatness of this community is the sum of all its parts therefore keeping up the property values and making it a desirable place to live

Excellent point

Its a golf community...a component used in sales. If you didnt want that or the upkeep to maintain it and the curb appeal, that's on you

IMO reason golf courses are in condition there in maintenance malpractice. Upper management heads should be fired. What’s say they won’t screw it up second or third time. IMO Somebody needs to accountable for millions each year with result that goes down hill every year.

The greens at Pimlico are a great example. Except for the first hole. They have been patched. But no one has bothered to water the new patches so it’s brown and drying. Exactly as it would in your lawn if you did not water it.

Disagree
 

Thousands of homes are where, on Villages golf courses. The whole real estate market here would implode overnight if the courses weren’t taken care of. All houses would decrease in value without the courses.

Isn’t there another thread for these posts?

Ever hear the line, "No man is an island"? No one would have anything if we didn't share the load. A society, a civilization is made up of many who share the workload, the cost of producing and providing benefits for all. If "Michael " doesn't want to share the cost of being part of the community, society, or civilization, he is welcome to drop out and live in a cave, hunt or gather his own food, make his own clothes, and be his own doctor when he becomes ill or injured. Problem is, where can he go to not be on some country's land where he can live his solitary troglodite existence? Antarctica? And how can he get there totally on his own?

It’s a letter to the editor in the online villages newspaper.

VERY well said!

Try to keep up, it about spending additional millions on golf courses and incompetence. :wave:

Yes, so it.
My point was............the OP was using the letter writer's logic, which there was none. :pepper2:

:what:

What are the yearly amounts of money being spent is general terms?

Total $ of all amenity fees yearly, for $ collected monthly
Total $ of all maintenance fees on tax bills
Total $ collected as "rent" when groups want to use facilities.
Total $ collected from any fee based activity

Total $ spent on Golf courses, flowers, rec centers, gate systems, community watch, pools, tennis and pickle ball courts, cutting grass in public areas, rec attendants in the squares, district operations, management costs, contracted expenses (and what for), etc

districtgov.org -> Departments -> Budget
Then look for SLCDD and VCCDD which is where the amenity dollars are collected and spent.

Also, the process has begun for building the budget for next year. Workshop times are available either in the District Weekly Bulletin, the Agenda links for each of the Districts, or by calling Customer Service. Attending these might provide many of the numbers you are looking for.

Nothing in the squares is paid for by amenity fees. The businesses at the squares pay for all of the entertainment and staff.

"On and on" for sure. Why stop there. Following that "logic" those who have no children should not pay for public schools, if you personally do not go out and drive, or walk, at night, why contribute to street lights ? No car ? Then why pay for streets and roads you don't use... but, it's "social media", what do you expect, superior intellectual analysis ? Think some times things are written only to watch the reactions of others....LOL... as an amusement perhaps ?

:icon_wink::popcorn::ohdear: Yes, pure, multifaceted, unemotional, analytical "thinking".... often in short supply on "social media" platforms..LOL ! A day without social media "logic" would be a day without chuckles, a dreary world.

Didn’t know the TOTV ‘forum’ had entered the social media genre. So let’s see, Twitter X, Truth Social, FB, Instagram, Tik Tok.....and TOTV forum. Available on the app or in the App Store! Got it...thank you for the update

Question....by responding to OP post, aren’t you initiating a reaction as well? Since you threw in an ‘LOL’....for ‘amusement perhaps’? Just following your logic...

Micheal should move

I shouldn’t therefore pay for anything I don’t use! Sure makes a lot of sense - not!

Agree … it’s known when you buy-in to the community.

So socialism is alive and well in the Villages?

Let’s not forget I don’t go Ukraine I don’t go California Expressway I don’t get $10,000 debit cards I don’t have children, but I pay school taxes

7) Schools in which I don’t have children.

Some people are never satisfied. This was always primarily a golf community…free golf for life.

The amenities for me are living in a nice community that has all these options that I can choose to join or not at any time. Flowers are nice, grass is green (except on the golf courses :-P), sidewalks maintained, etc. Compared to many HOAs (which technically this isn't), our fee is a bargain.

Amenities
 

Yours is not to question why...............yours is to do or not........its a choice

as Spock would say.........OP is highly illogical!!!!!!!!!:jester:

GREAT.....another "US vs THEM" thread :swear:

I'm a non-golfer, other than going to the gym I don't use any of the activities available.
But I do not mind paying for the upkeep, my belief is these activities is one of the main attractions for people to want to live here.
This keeping the price of homes here at a higher value.

IMO you could have the same condition next year with new faces. I guess that’s why businesses are not run on your “opinion “.

But at least some one was held accountable.

This complaint about paying for golf courses when I don't play golf, reminds me of the old complaint when I lived up North many moons ago. "Why should I pay school taxes when I don't have any kids in school?" Dumb!

I thought lotteries was supposed to fix public education? Public schools can NEVER have enough funded money not how that system works. :duck: same principles can be applied else where when spending someone else’s money.

Agree. Points been made several times.....

I often wonder when people go through sales presentations, tours, walk through, purchase, closing etc.....do they do so with blinders....and ear phones on? It’s like they wake up the first day and say, where did all those rolling hills and fairways come from, and more importantly, glad I’m not paying for the upkeep! Smh

I’m pretty sure if you’re living in villages you’re paying for it. :oops:

One thing that bothers me is these “flame throwers” have no idea of how our local systems of government works. The CDDs vs the AAC/PWAC, etc. They blame “the developer” when they very little to do with the matter. Learn how The Villages works then direct your angst and anger to the proper person, place or thing.