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village dreamer 04-20-2024 12:31 PM

golf ball vs car
 
if im on a golf course and hit a car with my golf ball , am i liable?? would his car insurance cover any damage. just asking for a friend.....:pray::pray::pray:

retiredguy123 04-20-2024 12:40 PM

The car owner's auto insurance would cover the damage under his comprehensive coverage. Is the golfer liable? Maybe, maybe not.

onfire 04-20-2024 12:59 PM

No, just not a particularly good golfer.

Providing it was not intentional then there is no liability, either for damage to a residence or vehicle. It doesn't mean you shouldn't offer to help pay for damages while not admitting guilt.

Shipping up to Boston 04-20-2024 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2323404)
if im on a golf course and hit a car with my golf ball , am i liable?? would his car insurance cover any damage. just asking for a friend.....:pray::pray::pray:

One of the most ambiguous topics that has survived a generation....without clarity. Inherit risks being a condo/homeowner in a golf community. The expectation that the individual responsible presents his/herself to damaged party (good luck).....the burden on identifying and proving who hit the ball. HOA language ....it goes on and on. Much like the days when someone would hit a parked car and leave a note on the windshield, nobody wants to deal with insurance smoke or getting into legalities in this litigious society we live in. I guess let your conscience be your guide

jimbomaybe 04-20-2024 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by onfire (Post 2323412)
No, just not a particularly good golfer.

Providing it was not intentional then there is no liability, either for damage to a residence or vehicle. It doesn't mean you shouldn't offer to help pay for damages while not admitting guilt.

Liability is not a matter of intent, as a traffic accident, to damage someone's property intentionally would be criminal damage to property ( Knowingly, intentionally without legal justification)

Laker14 04-20-2024 02:09 PM

When I was a wee lad I was caddying for my dad on his Saturday morning round with his chums. Dad wasn't much of a golfer, and on the 18th hole he heeled one OB left, directly into a the windshield of a plumber's van. The van was one of several in the fleet of a plumber friend of his, who, you guessed it, was part of the foursome.

Shipping up to Boston 04-20-2024 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2323436)
When I was a wee lad I was caddying for my dad on his Saturday morning round with his chums. Dad wasn't much of a golfer, and on the 18th hole he heeled one OB left, directly into a the windshield of a plumber's van. The van was one of several in the fleet of a plumber friend of his, who, you guessed it, was part of the foursome.

Guess we know who bought the first and subsequent rounds at 19!

Craig Vernon 04-20-2024 02:54 PM

Many times I do not even know if I actually hit the home, car, boat or RV.

village dreamer 04-20-2024 04:38 PM

that bang or busted glass sound , and you dont know????:evil6::evil6::evil6:

JMintzer 04-20-2024 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2323443)
Many times I do not even know if I actually hit the home, car, boat or RV.

"Many Times"??? :shocked:

Shipping up to Boston 04-20-2024 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2323443)
Many times I do not even know if I actually hit the home, car, boat or RV.

I hope a certain passionate member of ToTV isn’t reading this right now.

Retiring 04-20-2024 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2323404)
if im on a golf course and hit a car with my golf ball , am i liable?? would his car insurance cover any damage. just asking for a friend.....:pray::pray::pray:

Is collision insurance required in FL? It’s possible the damage will not be covered by insurance. I hate to ask, but am I out of line to say the golfer should repair the damage 100%. I’m not a golfer but I guarantee I would pay any damage I cause. Whether it’s a house window, screen or car.

retiredguy123 04-20-2024 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 2323494)
Is collision insurance required in FL? It’s possible the damage will not be covered by insurance. I hate to ask, but am I out of line to say the golfer should repair the damage 100%. I’m not a golfer but I guarantee I would pay any damage I cause. Whether it’s a house window, screen or car.

Collision and comprehensive insurance are not required in Florida. But, damage from a golf ball would be covered by comprehensive insurance, less the deductible. Most vehicle owners have this type of insurance.

Topspinmo 04-20-2024 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2323404)
if im on a golf course and hit a car with my golf ball , am i liable?? would his car insurance cover any damage. just asking for a friend.....:pray::pray::pray:

According to golfers they are not responsible for anything :coolsmiley:

Two Bills 04-21-2024 02:34 AM

Saw a short clip of John Daly launching golf balls on a range demo day.
The balls were landing outside the range, and after one shot, glass breaking could be heard.
His quote was "I love the sound of breaking glass" and proceeded to launch more down range.
Don't think he was too worried about damage from errant golf balls.

Laker14 04-21-2024 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2323525)
According to golfers the are not responsible for anything :coolsmiley:

If God wanted me to be responsible for where I hit a golf ball, he'd have given me more talent.

Two Bills 04-21-2024 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2323540)
If God wanted me to be responsible for where I hit a golf ball, he'd have given me more talent.

Amen!

dewilson58 04-21-2024 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2323443)
Many times I do not even know if I actually hit the home, car, boat or RV.

Please send me your golf schedule so I can avoid the area.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

sdeikenberry 04-21-2024 05:17 AM

a quick Google search reveals multiple answers that the golfer is not legally responsible for damage from an errant golf ball unless they intended to inflict that damage. Disagrees with what I’ve generally known all the years I’ve been golfing.

admiral72 04-21-2024 05:28 AM

I was playing in a Charity outing
 
I was playing in a Charity outing and came back to my car to discover a broken windshield. The ball was sitting on the hood with a personalized name and company. I confirmed he was in the event. I sent a picture to the guy via fax. I asked for my dedudable. A lawyer called and laughing said I could not prove he was the one who hit it.

Papa_lecki 04-21-2024 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sdeikenberry (Post 2323553)
a quick Google search reveals multiple answers that the golfer is not legally responsible for damage from an errant golf ball unless they intended to inflict that damage. Disagrees with what I’ve generally known all the years I’ve been golfing.

If i could intentionally hit a house or a car doing 45 MPH, I could intentionally hit the green.

onfire 04-21-2024 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sdeikenberry (Post 2323553)
a quick Google search reveals multiple answers that the golfer is not legally responsible for damage from an errant golf ball unless they intended to inflict that damage. Disagrees with what I’ve generally known all the years I’ve been golfing.

Exactly. It would be the same as driving down the road and the vehicle in front flicks up a piece of gravel that breaks your windshield, there is no liability. If that vehicle is a gravel truck which failed to secure the load (due care) then a claim may be justified.

The car owner could sue the golf course if they were negligent in design but the golfer would not be liable.

MandoMan 04-21-2024 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2323496)
Collision and comprehensive insurance are not required in Florida. But, damage from a golf ball would be covered by comprehensive insurance, less the deductible. Most vehicle owners have this type of insurance.

So, if your golf ball hits my car and dents it or breaks a window, doing, say, $800 in damage, and my car insurance has a $500 deductible, I’m supposed to cheerfully pay that $500 out of my pocket and have my car insurance rate raised or have the policy even cancelled because you can’t keep your balls where they belong? It seems to me that the golfer should bear moral responsibility, even if not legal responsibility, and cover the cost out of pocket.

crash 04-21-2024 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2323407)
The car owner's auto insurance would cover the damage under his comprehensive coverage. Is the golfer liable? Maybe, maybe not.

If he means legally liable the answer is no and the persons car insurance would cover the damage.

kkingston57 04-21-2024 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2323404)
if im on a golf course and hit a car with my golf ball , am i liable?? would his car insurance cover any damage. just asking for a friend.....:pray::pray::pray:

All cases have thier own particular differences, Was in the insurance adjusting biz. If you were negligent when you were hitting the ball and hit the car, you should be responsible, but not always. His car insurance would pay for the damages which exceeded his deductible. The insurance company could make a claim against you for those damages but probably would not since it would cost them more money than the actual damages. If you are sued by anyone and if you have homeowners insurance your homeowners policy could defend you or settle the lawsuit,

ehonour 04-21-2024 07:08 AM

Last year, one of my errant balls went through a window adjacent to the fairway. Sigh. I drove up and found the owner standing by. Gave him my card and offered to pay for the replacement, just let me know how much. Never heard from him. Next time I played that course, the window was fixed. Seems like one of those rare cases where both people were adult enough to act responsibly. Wouldn't it be nice if that were the norm, instead of arguing about it or—heaven forbid—initiating lawsuits?

BOWRUNNER 04-21-2024 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by onfire (Post 2323412)
No, just not a particularly good golfer.

Providing it was not intentional then there is no liability, either for damage to a residence or vehicle. It doesn't mean you shouldn't offer to help pay for damages while not admitting guilt.

Maybe you should quit golf, and try pickle ball:crap2:

retiredguy123 04-21-2024 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2323562)
So, if your golf ball hits my car and dents it or breaks a window, doing, say, $800 in damage, and my car insurance has a $500 deductible, I’m supposed to cheerfully pay that $500 out of my pocket and have my car insurance rate raised or have the policy even cancelled because you can’t keep your balls where they belong? It seems to me that the golfer should bear moral responsibility, even if not legal responsibility, and cover the cost out of pocket.

I didn't say that you should cheerfully pay the deductible. In some cases, the golfer will pay, depending on the situation.

merrymini 04-21-2024 07:45 AM

Golfers are, apparently, not responsible for damage, I know, I was victimized by one and had to pay for my own window. That is why I hate all golfers, most of whom are okay but tainted by the rude, stupid ones.

sowilts 04-21-2024 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BOWRUNNER (Post 2323605)
Maybe you should quit golf, and try pickle ball:crap2:

One reason Golf courses are built before Home construction, Club house, etc, is due to What was established first, the Course or the home, parking lot, etc. It applies to the what came first clause. Same applies to resent courses established south of 44. If one purchases a home on a golf course it is listed in the contract.

mikeycereal 04-21-2024 08:07 AM

You could square up and hit a ball like you were aiming at Neidermeyer and you wouldn't be liable.

"Now drop and give me 20!!" :duck:

nn0wheremann 04-21-2024 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2323404)
if im on a golf course and hit a car with my golf ball , am i liable?? would his car insurance cover any damage. just asking for a friend.....:pray::pray::pray:

This happened to my daughter. She lives next to a golf course. The golf course management called a windshield replacement company on the spot, had the job done right there in their parking lot, and nailed the offending foursome when they finished their round. However, that was in Iowa, where people tend to be polite and responsible citizens, unlike some more litigious places.

Topspinmo 04-21-2024 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2323562)
So, if your golf ball hits my car and dents it or breaks a window, doing, say, $800 in damage, and my car insurance has a $500 deductible, I’m supposed to cheerfully pay that $500 out of my pocket and have my car insurance rate raised or have the policy even cancelled because you can’t keep your balls where they belong? It seems to me that the golfer should bear moral responsibility, even if not legal responsibility, and cover the cost out of pocket.


Yes, golfers are special. :clap2:

Topspinmo 04-21-2024 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeycereal (Post 2323648)
You could square up and hit a ball like you were aiming at Neidermeyer and you wouldn't be liable.

"Now drop and give me 20!!" :duck:

I use to play with guy that hit 300 yard drive, he would line up 45 degrees from fairway. Hit ball 150 yards to left and 150 yards to right. One time he actually hit ball straight and it when over two fairways. :gc:

donfey 04-21-2024 08:27 AM

Was the car in the fairway or on the green?

bp243 04-21-2024 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 2323494)
Is collision insurance required in FL? It’s possible the damage will not be covered by insurance. I hate to ask, but am I out of line to say the golfer should repair the damage 100%. I’m not a golfer but I guarantee I would pay any damage I cause. Whether it’s a house window, screen or car.

There are always people who are guided by a moral compass that’s internal. With no one watching their actions, they simply know the right thing to do and they do it!

jimmy o 04-21-2024 09:50 AM

The car’s insurance will cover after his deductible. Sometimes the course could be held liable. Golfer can always be held liable, even if car driver then has heart attack, that’s why I carry umbrella insurance.

Shipping up to Boston 04-21-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bp243 (Post 2323673)
There are always people who are guided by a moral compass that’s internal. With no one watching their actions, they simply know the right thing to do and they do it!

Or...
“The true test of a mans character is what he does when no one is watching”~John Wooden

Tustin714 04-21-2024 10:44 AM

In a way the answer is "it depends" -- it depends if the golfer's moral compass takes responsibility for his actions. In a way, it's a true test of character.

Taltarzac725 04-21-2024 10:51 AM

A few years ago I was driving past the Pimlico Recreation Center by that golf course and saw something moving fast at me from the corner of my eye. The ball went under my car and bounced and hit the bottom with a clank. Could see golfers at the nearby hole looking at me but I was worried more about the traffic on Belvedere rear ending me more than any damage to the under carriage of the car so I just kept going. Checked the car after shopping at the Publix but found no leaks.

I still get a little nervous driving past those golf holes.


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