The Amazing USGA Women's Open Championship
 

Today's Leaderboard, going into the last round.

& this kids, is exactly what's wrong with Women's Golf.

Well, I don’t see a problem,

Respectfully

Asianthree

I rarely watch women’s golf but I turned it on yesterday to see how Nelly Korda was doing. I was stunned to see that she missed the cut!!

I found out that on the third hole on Thursday, she had a 10 on a par 3. She hit three straight balls in the water. The cut was plus 8 and she finished plus 10.

yup....I watch this as much as I watch the WNBA. I don't

Nothing wrong there. Maybe it's you.
I have been to Lake Nona to watch them in Jan. 2 times, enjoyed both times & will go back.

I think it’s where most international sports are trending. Great example is Major League Soccer. I heard less than a percent of US college soccer players actually make a pro team...the international talent smothers that feeder system. The good for the women’s golf game is it can’t survive without a US based tournament schedule and TV deal....the bad is, nobody is going or watching

Simple. The Asian girls put the practice hours in that the American/European girls don't.
Jerry Barber and Gary Player would both approve!

yes...I believe you are right

What's the issue? If you are talking about the players with Asian names, many of those ladies are Americans and if their leads hold, they'll be representing the US in the olympics.

Oh really?

"MANY of them are Americans?"

Name ONE, other than Andrea Lee.

MinJee Lee is Australian (Represented Australia in the Olympics)
Andrea Lee is American
Wichanee Meechai is Thai
Hinako Shibuno is Japanese
Yuka Saso was born in the Phillipines, but grew up in Japan
Sakura Koiwai is Japanese
JIN HEE IM is South Korean
Arpichaya Yubol is from Thailand
RIO TAKEDA is from Japan
Lee Mi-hyang is from Korea

When will they learn on here to do some due diligence before responding. I knew you had receipts for that one!

I took your initial post...as intended. At first glance, even to a non fan of the sport....is a ‘US Open’ graphic and then a leaderboard that looks like a lineup in the Nippon pro baseball league. Of course on here, everything devolves into a sexist, misogynistic or political accusation rant by those that continually miss the point.

What problem?

Love it. !!!!!!!!

Maybe the post was to illustrate that those female players of Asian extraction, regardless of their present nationality, apply themselves well to this particular sport. No sleight there. Just acknowledgement of what seems evident in the graphic. Respectfully submitted for consideration

Maybe the post was to illustrate that those female players of Asian extraction, regardless of their present nationality, apply themselves well to this particular sport. No sleight there. Just acknowledgement of what seems evident in the graphic. Respectfully submitted for consideration

Maybe the post was to illustrate that those female players of Asian extraction, regardless of their present nationality, apply themselves well to this particular sport. No sleight there. Just acknowledgement of what seems evident in the graphic. Respectfully submitted for consideration

AMEN. Now this poster gets the point. Practice, focus, commitment……..certainly.

I guess I just don't see a problem here. When I watch either ladies or men's golf, I marvel at the skill they demonstrate, and not the nationality of the player. If you think there's a problem, you have a couple of options, which I will not enumerate.

The only thing you left off of this one is ‘respectfully submitted for consideration’! ;)

What is your point? Something against Asians?

I watched the tournament and saw a bunch of talented young ladies from around the world. Not sure what your point is. PS Andrea Lee is American.

Asian Players
 

Years ago I asked a golf instructor, who taught over there, why the Asians take to the game of golf faster and better. She said, it's because they have a shorter achilles tendon. I was befuddled. Because of this they have a better sense of balance. A much needed golf swing quality. In any sport there is a physical race advantage.

I asked an asian player, who practiced 8 hours a day, and gets followed by her family all along the way, unlike American drop off kids, what is the motivation. She said it was either golf or school and marriage...good motivation.... but let's not forget pride. A depleting American quality. Seems the American girls have less motivation.........

The mens tour is starting to see more and more asian players as well. Waiting to see the same type of leaderboard. The women, however, need to play longer and harder courses to be more interesting. And, golf announcers, coverage, are awful on the mens and ladies side.

Lastly, the golf ball doesn't know your race, it just knows a well struck shot. Maybe we should be like the golf ball. And, let's not get started on basketball players. We just have to be like the hoop. Appreciate the swish.........not the swisher.........:coolsmiley:

I’ve been to one basketball game in my life and it was the women’s golf medal game in Atlanta. US vs Brazil. They shot lights out and were very entertaining. It’s not, a big man’s game, Caitlin Clark not only can shoot from anywhere but her playmaking skills are outstanding… a female Larry Bird maybe???

As for intl women in golf, I don’t understand why, maybe our girls are too busy into other things… parents not introducing them into golf, too expensive??? Someone should do a thesis on the subject.,

Wow !

There was a USGA Woman’s Open Championship this past weekend ?

LOL !!!!!

Yes, the point was pure unadulterated racism.

[QUOTE=asianthree;2336797]Well, I don’t see a problem,

Most don't speak any English and most are not from the good ole USA.

The easy, LAZY, usual bailout drop!
That word is so watered down in its usage that you and others that use it constantly because you can't craft a thought provoked or educated retort......do a disservice to those that have truly been exposed to it historically.

PS
OP acknowledged same in post #10...

I remember an interview with Gary Player where he said the best golfers would have a body like "Ally Oop".

Bingo!

My wife and I were spectators for a couple of days a few years back when the LPGA championship was held at Hazeltine National Golf Course near Minneapolis, MN. I still recall those willowy Asian ladies with a BMI of about zero walking nonchalantly up to the tee and--whack!--watching the ball disappear over the horizon.

My wife is Asian, so the fact that so many of the contestants were also Asian didn't surprise me in the least. It goes back to the work ethic extant in so many Asian cultures--and also among Asians in America. Those kids are brought up to excel: that the only guaranteed way to success is to work your butt off. So that is what they do. And the results are obvious.

There is a hard lesson to be learned here. What we are seeing is the inevitable result of the entitlement mentality so prevalent in America today. Yeah...these Asian kids succeed because they work their tails off--and not just in women's golf, but in education, the work place--you name it. All too often the non-Asian Americans don't.

I was a marshal in a LPGA event in my home state for about 20 years. I saw the trend of the lack of American female golfers starting back 25 years ago. As a general rule, American girls much prefer team sports over golf which is considered an individual sport. Our best female athletes are not golfers and that “Jack” is a fact! There is also a “trend” among American males also. There are many other reasons such as culture, cost and commitment. You could call it the 3 C’s of American golf. There are some changes USGA is trying hard to make and much of the change is trying to go from “Country Club golf” to opportunities for everybody to play golf at a young age. Change doesn’t come easy.

Andrea Lee is listed as American but she is a full fledged Korean girl by nationality.

She was born in Los Angeles. California many not be like the America we all know, but she's as American as anyone is.

Since you brought it up...there is also a downside to those ‘expectations’ as well. I remember in or around 2015 at MIT.....the suicide rate in the Asian campus community was quadruple the national average. So I ask you....at what cost?

I think you can agree that American women's golf is dominated by Asian women, especially Korean, without being racist. Is it a problem? Not really. The problem is the relative lack of American top level pro golfers. I don't watch it either, as I find TV golf to be pretty boring. The Korean government many years ago saw that professional golf could be a gateway for their sports programs and they acted on it, by investing in training/coaching very young women. Our government doesn't do that, nor should they.

When I saw the original post, I thought he was referring to the fact that almost nobody would recognize the names. Most people don't want to tune it to see a bunch of players that they don't recognize.

I don't follow women's sports and the only one I recognized was Minjee Lee.
Unless you follow the women's golf very closely, I doubt if anyone recognized three of the players.

The only WNBA players I know are Clark and Griner (and the only reason I know her is because she was arrested in Russia).

The purpose of professional sports is to get money - usually through television viewership. Unless you have names that people recognize, people aren't going to tune in and watch.

Even the PGA is having problems with television ratings.

The final round of the Masters (9.58 million viewers) was down about 20 percent from 2023. It was the lowest-rated Masters since 1993 with the exception of the two Covid years.

The final rounds of the Phoenix Open and Arnold Palmer Invitational were down over 30 percent from last year.

The Players Championship, the final round was only viewed by 3.53 million viewers. That was down 15 percent—and all four rounds of the tournament were lower than 2023.

As for regular tournaments, most casual observers don't recognize more than a handful of players. The top ten players at the Canadian Open only had one player in the top 10 FedExCup rankings - Rory McIlroy. The winner (Robert MacIntyre) is ranked 32 in Fedexcup points; Ben Griffin finished second and is 54th, Victor Perez is 80th; Tom Kim is 66th; Rory is 3rd, the fourth place player is 45; Ryan Fox is 96th; Mackensie Hughes is 40th; and Maverick McNealy is 57th. These numbers are after the tournament. Going in, they were ranked lower. Not must see television!

The PGA misses Tiger and with many of the top names going to LIV, mens' golf is not as interesting.

But we should provide the opportunity for 100 women from other countries, to fly into the USA for a week and take $12,000,000 home with them?

They do nothing to support golf in the USA. Do nothing to support the USGA in the US. They come and take the money, mumble a couple of words of English (in many cases) and go home with their millions, until they come back next year for a week. It's the US Women's Open, not the "World Women's Open".

I think there are 2 things wrong with TV Golf, which contribute to declining viewership.

1. Exactly what you mentioned. The Leaderboard at the RBC Canadian Open was a joke. If Bob MacIntyre didn't have his Dad caddying for him, the entire tournament would have been non-story.

2. It used to be when we watched golf, we were seeing players, who were playing the exact same game as us, on the same courses we could play. Nicklaus may have hit an 8 iron into a green, when we would need a 7 iron ... but it was the same game. Now? Guys are hitting 8 iron 2nd shots, on 600 yard Par 5's. They're playing 295 yard Par 3's. It's hard to relate.

[QUOTE=GATORBILL66;2337246]One thinks some don’t understand English, but with some upbringing if you’re not at peak language performance, you should not embarrass yourself or family.

Our 3 children speak, read and write 5-7 languages fluently

My grandchildren speak read, 4 languages fluently.

However they can understand 3 other languages, but will not speak, since not perfected. Asian languages for them could be listed first language, just as much English.

As far as born USA, many have ancestors that fled here, but unless you are Native, most likely you are the Heinz 57 like many who chose to live in the states

The tournament is called the "Open" because it is open to everyone. The best player wins. How else would you run an open tournament?