It Was Cooler This Morning
 

Compared to yesterday, it was 2 degrees cooler this morning during my sunrise walk. I even saw a woman, who was walking her dog, who was wearing long pants and a jacket. As Debby moves even further north, the southerly winds will continue to slow and nighttime radiational cooling will return. I expect it to be 1 degree cooler tomorrow morning.

With a heat index of 107° today, 2° made a big difference

The Villages newspaper said it was going to be very hot today and this weekend. Feel like 104 or more.

You mean like most summer days here for the last 5,000 years?

its all those damned gas golf carts

Suppose it was all those farting dinosaurs before?

I googled cow farts vs volcanos a little while ago when a couple of these old farts were fussing about CO2 and climate warming, there were a ton of serious hits

I resemble that remark! :D

That’s an uncontrollable source. Cars and carts are controllable sources. That’s the focus.

The "focus" here is temperature. By the way, as I forecast, this morning's temperature was 1 degree cooler than yesterday. This was thanks to Debby moving farther away -- and by allowing less windy air and more nighttime radiational cooling. It's funny, that with all the hype of super-hot, boiling oceans, Debby only attained Cat 1 status and for a very short time.

I think the whole point of climate change is what historically took 10000+ years to repeat a warming trend, now for the first time in ice core data the change is rapidly occurring more frequent, in 500 years. The only change on the planet is the Industrial Revolution with mankind contributing to air pollution particulates. I think everyone agrees less pollution to our planet the better. Polluting the planet doesn’t help the planet. Striving to be better stewards of the planet is an honorable task.

Hot in PA too
 

If it’s any consolation it’s about this hot in PA. We just got back to TV yesterday after a month in PA. We hardly went outside at all. No relief in the evening after 5:30 pm because the mosquitoes were like a biblical plague. Dozens of bites very quickly. And yesterday our area in PA had a tornado. River is flooded.

Thinking is fun, but data is better. The only thing that's more rapid these days is climate alarmism, fostered by 24/7/365 media overload. The narrative says crisis ... but the data says hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, droughts, etc are all decreasing as we warm. Plus, the long-term trend is cooling.

Nice graphic

I agree with that data, but it's still freakin' hot.

I too was in PA - two weeks ago - and after living there for over 70 years I see nothing unusual -- except hyper climate alarmist media up there too. This graph was created using NOAA's climatological data stations for PA. Notice the long-term cooling trend of maximum temperatures. Regarding flooding -- I lived right on the Delaware River -- and saw much greater flooding in size and frequency in the past -- when CO2 levels were much lower.

Glad you like the graphic. That and hundreds more are periodically used at The Weather Club presentations to demonstration "data" versus "narrative". The Villages Weather Club

Freakin' is not a meteorological term, but I get the message. In these days of modern, reliable temperature records (which is only about 140 years out of billions of years), 2024 will probably be recorded as the hottest -- for one good reason which the media still refuses to say -- Tonga Volcano -- which will be explained in detail at the next Weather Club meeting ... The Villages Weather Club . PS ... despite the warmth, global warming is slowing down -- even though CO2 continues upward.

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Wow. This graphic strongly supports a theory I've been developing. Notice the four most recent peaks, during the Minoan civilization, the peak of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance development of civilized Europe, and today. All four of these periods were characterized by an excess of political discussion as society re-arranged itself.

Obviously, the source of global warming is the hot air caused by political rhetoric! The ice core record shows it!

Of course, I don't know about those other two peaks at 8000 and 7000 years ago. Apparently, those were before God created the Earth.

Didn’t know there were people with thermometers here 5000 years ago. It is hotter in the time of recorded temperatures maybe 200 years.

Those past peaks can be explained by the Eddy (1,000 yr) solar cycles (see image). This is discussed in the The Weather Club's "Why Climates Change" talk. This and many other talks are presented to many Villages groups - upon request. PS ... it's the sun (and an occasional volcano) - not CO2.

Prior to modern day instruments, we have many different method of obtaining past climate information -- everything from temperature to the amount of oxygen, CO2 and many other elements in the air and land and ocean. These are called proxies - which include radio-carbon dating. We have numerous proxies telling up earth was much warmer many times in the past when CO2 levels were much lower. See image for a good example -- where none of the climate models can replicate -- which is more evidence they all fail.

I see way more climate talk in this forum than I do from the media. Even though I might agree with most of what you say, it’s overload nonetheless. It seems you must always have one of these threads running. It’s like the new dog poop of the forum. And you push the Weather Club so hard I have to wonder if you get a commission for every new body you bring in. lol

All Weather Club talks are free -- in and outside the Villages -- and even as far as Gainesville. People from across the US and even Canada have asked for these talks, because they see the subjects posted here -- because most want to hear the data versus the narrative ... The Villages Weather Club

Not controllable cause majority across world don’t want to walk. Don’t spout electric cause less than 1% in world are electrified.

I contribute the decline to “Smokey the Bear” famous words “ only YOU can prevent forest fires. :highfive:

Yes normally after Hurricanes pass by, you have a cooling period. Basically hurricanes are a mechanism to average out the hot temperatures of the equator and the cold temperatures of northern Canada and the Arctic. Hot temperatures will probably return to Florida in late August since the surrounding waters in the Atlantic Ocean and the Gulf are above average temperatures. We have been having lots of rain (grass is growing fast and lots of lawn mowing required) because warmer air holds more moisture.
.........It is interesting that the warmer oceans make the ocean waters rise and threaten low lying cities - like Miami. But there may be an offsetting factor - melting glaciers around Antarctica could make the oceans cooler - that is new research from scientists. Apparently, there are many factors to consider.

Unfortunately, looking at a graph of Earth temperatures, we see a large rise in temperature in the last 5 years. The reason for the increased HEAT - as provided by over 90% of climate scientists IS that factory pollution and gas and diesel automobiles produce a gas that adversely affects HEAT reflection from the upper atmosphere. This is going to get worse each year until the world switches to Electric Vehicles in LARGE numbers. Plus somehow the Earth's population must level off. NOTE -----look at a graph of the recent LARGE increase in population. Its recent rise is similar to the increase in Earth temperature.

I realize the sarcasm, but the statement is absolutely TRUE.

Sorry about your bad experience. If you get a chance to look at post 28 here. There is a brief explanation of the reason for those recent changes in the world climate. Many people are avoiding the question of "WHY" this is happening. And try NOT to be dazzled by the many graphs found on page 2.

The end of that graph is 2007 which has nothing to do with today. That is BEFORE the rapid warming was detected about 15 years ago. But has really risen greatly in the last 5 years. A more current graph would be more meaningful.

Normal for summer in Florida.

Sorry, there is no "brief" explanation of climate change, or even meteorology - which is why The Weather Club offers 25 different presentations (with more in the works), all examining the many know and unknown factors which control our environment. For example, Al Gore thought he too had a "brief explanation" of just a small part of the puzzle.

The source of those temperature proxies have not yet updated the data, although we have plenty of evidence and other proxy data to show that the prior warm period, the Medieval Warm Period, was warmer than today, when CO2 was lower than today.

The Tonga Volcano.......interesting........sounds a little like picking out some STRAY fact to explain AWAY HEAT increase worldwide, which can be found by a simple GOOGLE search. That is like another odd theory about some sort of Earth wobble causing this HEAT. The US automobile industry pays professional deniers to obscure the real cause of the recent Global Warming - internal combustion exhaust. It is obvious that they have a VESTED interest in SLOWING down the US consumer's acceptance of Electric Vehicles.

There is no relevant point in talking about earth temperatures hundreds of years ago. (although I believe that all science is worth pursuing). But, as to WHY we have increased Global Warming in the last 5 years........it seems more of a distraction than anything of value.

Actually the far right of this graph shows RISING CO2 and RISING earth HEAT. That's because of MAN-MADE, man cause CO2 increases from IC engines. Basically, the more people there are on Earth the more the HEAT will rise. Next summer will be EVEN HOTTER.

Actually all polar ice at both poles is decreasing. I believe that I read that scientists are recording record temperatures in Antarctica.

This volcano opinion is exactly what the media desires - a total lack of awareness of the greatest volcanic event in the 21st century - and the subject of the next Weather Club talk - because Tonga is the primary cause of the 2023-2024 heat wave -- due to its unprecedented injection of water vapor (earth's strongest greenhouse driver) high into the stratosphere. Its blast compression wave traveled around the world - twice - and was heard as far away as Alaska. Here is a preview of what most don't know ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgsNYGkkIAE

Thank you for confirming we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age. The Bray and Eddy solar cycles are still in their warming phases -- which is expected to end in about 100 years. Enjoy the ride -- because the alternative is chilling.