4 guys going door to door soliciting window washing
 

4 guy going house to house soliciting window washing. One guy walking door to door, knocking on the frame of the door and didn't ring my door bell camera, hmmmm.
My neighbors hired them 3 guys in a white Chevy I think cruze or Malibu pulls up 3 guys get out of the car with a ladder and window cleaning bottles and start cleaning windows on my neighbors property. Hmmmm similar scam happened in my home town 10 years ago, peekaboo in the windows to see if there is anything good to steal,then send there buddies over to steal. I thought there was no soliciting in the villages. I'm sure do gooders will have a problem with my post as usual. Beware!!!

Beware is right! Hiring them gives them carte blanche to check out your house, what is inside, any obvious security cameras you might have, window alarms, etc. etc.

On the other hand it might be just some guys out to make an honest (sort of) buck. About three years I had a similar thing happen. I hadn't been here too long, maybe six months, and was out mowing my lawn. Older guy in an SUV pulling a trailer with various and sundry lawn maintenance tools in back pulls up, and asked me if I wanted my lawn mowed. As I was already about 1/4 done mowing I declined. He then asked if he could trim my hedge and bushes. It was a hot day and I wasn't looking forward to doing them myself so I asked the price. $25.00. I said sure, and continued mowing while he trimmed. Once done I paid him $25 cash, he thanked me, hopped back into his SUV and left. Haven't seen him since.

He did however ask the lady on our block a few doors down, and I did see him mowing her lawn.

Yes it could be legitimate but mowing the lawn and playing peekaboo in my windows are two different things. I have no problem cleaning my own windows. Today's environment WITH all these illegals come across the border I don't trust anything. JMHO

Yes, I believe there is no soliciting. They are trespassing.

I would have politely, at least the first time, sent them on their way

Hmm, I don’t seem to have a problem enforcing it. I just remind them that this type of activity is unwelcome in TV.

Call da law? Better yet, call one of those village patrol cars?

That's how people, especially the elderly get scammed. I guess I'm not nice huh?

How are they trespassing if they are traveling on public roads and leaving private property when asked?

Statue 810.09
It's all there to read, once they leave public property, Florida has one of the best trespassing laws in the country.
Under the law you don't even have to be on the property to be trespassed warning to be submitted by law enforcement, if you come back you get a free Uber ride by law enforcement lol

Exactly. If they leave private property when asked they are not trespassing.

You need to read the law you are incorrect my friend. If they are trespassed off with a written warning by law enforcement and come back and enter the property it's considered trespassing even if you asked them to leave and they do leave. You can believe what you want my friend! They can be arrested at that point!

First of all, it's a statute, not a statue.

Second, different communities have different regulations regarding trespassing, the Florida statute only covers a "generic" situation.

Third, if they come onto your property uninvited, and you have to ask them to leave, then they have already trespassed, by coming onto your property uninvited. That IS trespassing. That's the very definition. Going where you aren't invited. I shouldn't have to tell a trespasser to get off my property, in order to have the encounter qualify as a trespass. The fact that they got to my door is qualification enough.

Florida is actually LAX on the definition of trespass, and requires the owner to object after the fact. That protects the trespasser, not the homeowner.

Was there a written warning by law enforcement? I missed any mention of that in any post, including yours.

Call 911 if you feel strongly about it. Tell them someone came on your property then left when you asked them to and now you want them arrested for trespassing.

I was at the Havana CC once and a guy was there using an electrical outlet on the breezeway. A police car showed up, and he and the manager filled out a form which the policeman gave to the guy. He said it was a trespassing notice and that, if he returned again, he would be arrested. So, it could be that you need a written notice to actually enforce the trespass law.

In regards to the spelling I stand corrected thank you for pointing that out I will check my autocorrect. Furthermore I agree with a great part of your post regarding trespassing it's painted with a broad brush. However though it gets in depth in criminal trespassing and case law that's where the division is. I seem to think Florida has great trespassing laws but you seem to have a different opinion that's why this is America my friend. I'm thankful for Florida trespassing laws under 8:10 have a good day

Yes you are correct and in my post that's what they give you, it's called a trespass warning stay off the property, or the next time you will be arrested.

What about harassment? They are disturbing my peace, by coming up to my door. When did my walkway become public property? The survey of my property indicates it belongs to me.

Feel free to try that argument when you call the sheriff.

I suspect you will find that criminal harassment requires a refusal to cease and desist the same way that criminal trespassing requires a refusal to leave.

Florida law (501.022) allows people to perform door-to-door solicitation as long as they have a home solicitation permit. So, they are allowed to cross your property and come to your door.

"Pursuant to Chapter 501, Florida Statutes, individuals who engage in certain door-to-door solicitation activities that sell, lease, or rent consumer goods or services with a purchase price in excess of $25.00 are required to obtain a Home Solicitation Sales Permit."

Not even close to the facts.




The Villages doesn't have a rule against "Soliciting". Even if they did, the only place it would be enforceable, is in the neighborhoods of Villas where the "roads"/driveways are not public.


Here is just about all you need to know about who can and can't solicit and who needs a permit to do it.


Home Solicitation Permit | Sumter County Clerk of Courts

Sorry I strongly disagree, 8:10 trumps 501 and they can be trespassed off warnings also and if they come back they get a Uber ride to the popoo.....

I don't think we disagree. If a person shows up at your door with a permit, they are not violating the law. But, if you warn them to leave and to not come back, then they will violate the law if they return. But, the permit allows them to show up at least one time.

IF they refuse to leave THEN they MIGHT get a warning.
IF they get a warning AND they return THEN there MIGHT be further repercussions.
It is also true that IF they did donuts on your lawn they could be charged with vandalism.

HOWEVER, NONE of those things happened. From what you wrote, they operated under 501 while not violating 810.

I would imagine Public has access to front doors (IMO the front door only), unless you have no trespassing sign in clear view

Wrong. Read the law again and understand it right

Wow!!

I had no idea that so many lawyers live in The Villages.

Avoid DTD scams
 

Wrong on both counts. They are not trespassing until they refuse to leave when asked.
Roads in the Villages are public roads and anyone can knock on your door.

No soliciting is not enforced. You must post a no soliciting sign.

I don't get the unnecessary do-gooders remark. In my opinion, don't hire anyone who comes to your door without you calling them. That's how to stop that activity.

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It's amazing how a post on window washers gets hijacked to trespass arguments.

People who fall prey to scams end up wondering how they allowed themselves to be scammed, and usually realize that lack of awareness was at the forefront.

Allowing strangers access to your home is detrimental to your personal security.

Situational awareness is something that needs to be practiced at all times.
Learn to think like a criminal ..... Look for escape routes ..... backdoors and fire exits.

You've worked hard for what you have. Don't let it get taken because you were negligent.

Exactly! Thank you for the reasonable post. That's all i was trying to do was warn people, but i had the Popcorn ready for the others LOL

Are you trying to scam me? It is 2024 do it is no longer valid

(sarcasm)

Thank you I didn’t know that. Nevertheless, they are a nuisance! It’s like advertisement, we pay extra for streaming to get no advertisement.

Using an electrical outlet without permission is theft of electricity. Trespassing was a nicer way to tell him to leave & not return IMO

People who wander around looking for work are showing you they are DESPERATE, right up front. So if you assume they may do DESPERATE things—that is logical—not judgmental.

So true finally someone that gets it!!!!! Thank you