Tyreek Hill video
 

Hill could have been more compliant.

The police could have been less aggressive.


Bodycam footage shows how Tyreek Hill detainment escalated

I wonder if the vehicle complied with the window tinting law. If the officer couldn't see him with the window closed, he had every right to open the door.

The police way overreacted and handled the situation extremely badly.
It was a traffic stop, did not involve a chase, was not a known felon, and no weapons were involved.

Incidents like this are hugely detrimental to building and maintaining the public's positive opinion of the police.

EDIT - More bodycam footage due to be released from the 6 police officers at that traffic stop. I also would be interested in hearing the radio transmissions. What was said that necessitated that amount of police?

I wonder what the end result would have been if his name wasn’t Tyreek Hill?

Or earlier this year, Scottie Scheffler.

Although if an officer asks me to roll down my window and keep it rolled down, I am going to follow his directions.

I have only been stopped for a traffic incident twice in my life. Both times I did what I was told and there was no problem. I was very polite and the officers were very polite.

Here is a Chris Rock public service video on how to respond - and more importantly, how not to respond - to a police stop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

I would hate to see what would have happened if he were not famous. I'm sorry, but white cops abuse their power with black men.

If you are a white male it is a whole different ball game.

You make the HUGE assumption that when an officer makes a traffic stop that the vehicle's occupant is a normal law-abiding citizen and NOT a violent offender with a warrant. When you do this for a living, you do not take that gamble because you have ZERO idea who is in that car. You err on the side of YOUR survival, not err on the side of hurting someone's feelings.

It's okay though, I understand your point of view - after all, you probably watched a lot of cop shows on T.V. Of course you know how to do that life-threatening job better than the people that actually do it everyday. It's not like there's a lot of life risk in being a lawyer or working in corporate America. Heck, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos so I'm a professional plumber now also.

The "A Few Good Men" defense?

Physical assault goes far beyond hurting someone's feelings.

He was clearly not roĺling down his window. I see no problem with LEOs removing him from the car and detaining him.

The same result would happen to anyone of any race in the same circumstances.

Does anyone of at least average intelligence actually think the white male would get a pass for this?

I think the biggest challenge in a scenario like this is to figure out how to thread the needle so that everyone knows you support law enforcement and are grateful they put their lives on the line for us everyday, but recognize that this situation should have been handled differently. I don't think the vast majority of police officers would have handled it this way.

It was less than one minute before they pulled him out and had him face down. Hill did unroll his window, presented his license and then rolled it back up. The cop demanded he roll it back down and didn't wait or explain, no he just dragged Hill out. DIdn't let him get out on his own which he seemed willing and able to do. Hill never threated the cop. Then face down on the concrete, knee on his back. If the cop "needed" to cuff Hill, somewhere in his training he might have learned how to do that with a person standing and not fighting, somewhere. But he chose the most physical demeaning "see what I can do to you" method.


Then a different cop forces him to sit, why? Power play. Hill was cuffed, had not resisted, did not present a flee risk, couldn't do anything. Why force him, physically push him to the ground?

Bullies with badges. Unless more video/audio says something entirely different than what we have seen so far you'd have to be seriously in denial to call this good policing and not call it unnecessary police brutality.

Scottie has been mentioned. He was actually arrested and booked and somehow they managed to arrest him without physical force. But that was a white guy. Maybe that made a difference.

From the tape I saw, all he had to do was roll down his window, as requested. You can hear the officer say … we’re not gonna play that game.

I really think that if a white guy refuses to follow simple orders from a cop that it will tend to escalate the situation.

Is there any white person out there that wants to volunteer to get stopped by cops for speeding and then ignore their directions just to see what happens?

Prior to the point you are referencing...
He already did roll down the window all the way. Talked with the officer. Presented his drivers license. Officer then walks away, and then he rolled up the window.
Hill has stated he was attempting to prevent people stopping, jamming up traffic as they were trying to take photographs.

Once on the ground, look carefully for the officers to search for a weapon. That is the excuse we will hear for ripping him out of his car. Courts have ruled that drivers have no obligation to roll down windows.

Other news sites are reporting the people stopping beyond the scene were team mates. One was detained and handcuffed. I'm sure there will be more to come out about that.

The person on the phone Hill was talking with was the head of Dolphins security.

Looks like the officers were doing a few things. Teach a lesson to obey everything they say, even if those commands are not legal or necessary. Show Hill who is the "boss". Officers can disrespect anyone they want, at any time, for any reason.

Wonder is this is the norm there? Is everyone treated like that? Did they happen to just pick on the wrong guy this time - someone famous who will garner attention even if he doesn't want it?

You don't know me. Or my background. Please refrain from disrespecting in the future.

Why wouldn't he roll down his tinted window when asked?
What would you be thinking?
Think it through.

The RACE card? "Abuse "? Maybe just depends on how the initial contact goes and adjust accordingly to get the appropriate response. I saw the video. Right from the get go I could see the disrespect of Mr T. And it continued.
And the guy that pulled over, parking illegally, blocking traffic, not leaving after being told to move his vehicle, and ingeneral being a pain ita. He wanted video. Every cop car and every cop has video. He had no right to interfere by being a distraction.

Not. Even. Close.

If a the stop had been made exactly the same with the exception of Tyreek being white, I think it would have been pretty much the same. Protocol depends on actions and attitude, respect and response.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. Besides, we will never know.

Couldn't find the down button?

I don’t remember the video of Scheffler being thrown to the ground, twice, after being accused of disobeying an officer and dragging him with his car. Perhaps it’s a more severe penalty for not rolling a window completely down.

Well, guess we will have to agree to disagree. I'm going by what I saw on the video compared to others I have seen. Cops don't coddle those who disrespect them. Not rolling your window down or opening your door when told too, rolling the window up while the cop is talking to you is an inexcusable sign of disrespect and defiance.
Jmho

Every time there is some trouble with white cops and black citizens, this happens. Why? Because it’s easy. You have to get past this, society in the whole certainly has.

Better if you say LEO’s and citizens - that’s when the racism stops. Because when say white versus black you’re reflecting your own racism.

& you say that, because Tyreek Hill has such a sterling record of staying out of trouble?

Domestic Violence (& thrown off his college team).

Child Abuse (Suspended by the KC Chiefs).

Assault in Miami Beach

Currently being sued by Sophie Hall for breaking her leg.

Tyreek Hill'''s timeline of trouble: From a domestic violence arrest in college to Sophie Hall lawsuit with Dolphins | Sporting News

“was not a known felon,..”

The Officers had no idea who was driving, therefore no idea if a known felon or not, until ID shown and a check made.

Rule 1. Comply with LEO
Rule 2. See rule 1

Tinted window, he closed it how did the cops know if he had a gun in his hand.

They had every right to pull him out of his car but seemed to go too far in throwing him onto the ground.

Good thing these officers were Hispanic, right?

Maybe it was because Scheffler complied with their LAWFUL orders...

Because none of that actually happened...

Maybe because he stole the car and didn't know how to operate it :)

He found it once but couldn't find it again...Hmm.

I wonder what he did to get pulled over. Maybe there is video of that.

One thing for sure, that situation would never happen in the UK.
Probably take our Police a couple of hours to rustle up that many plods for a traffic stop!

If you even get pulled over, act like Tyree did. Let’s see how far you get. FAFO

No weapons involved?
 

You don't know if weapons are involved until after you make the stop. No over reaction whatsoever

Totally agree there could have been improvement on both sides! Mr Hill could have been more respectable by keeping the window down and paying attention to the officer's commands instead of his phone! The 2nd gentleman could not even stop talking on the phone long enough to hear what the officer had to say. Police officer should have explained himself more instead of being impatient. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

Most controversial law enforcement actions are the result of unforgivable disrespect by citizens. Tyreek is not exactly a role model but instead of taking advantage of the opportunity to elevate his personal reputation, he chose to immediately disregard the authority of law enforcement.

It's easy. Do. What. You. Are. Told.

Privileged. Such a shame how our world has lost respect.