Little white crosses
 

What is the status of the case of the villages against the house with the little white crosses. I know they owed a lot of fines but I thought they took it to court. I just started walking and in my travels along Bailey trail around sea breeze I have seen 6 or 7 houses with the white crosses. Some have them stuck in flower pots. The most innovative one was 3 crosses stuck inside the lani which faces the road but clearly visible from the road.

Still tied up in court as I recall reading recently. And probably will be forever.

The solution in our neighborhood is an 8" cross in every single flowerbed.

It's sort of like the way we finally defeated that idiotic 55mph speed limit that was almost universally ignored, and still managed to kill thousands of people every year, as evidenced from the drop in highway deaths the year it was finally repealed.

Sometimes the only solution to stupid government overreach is passive resistance.

The repeal of the 55 mph speed limit in 1995 led to an increase in highway deaths

Study: A study found that the increased speed limits after the repeal accounted for an estimated 12,545 deaths over 10 years.

Fatality rates: A study found that fatality rates were 17% higher after the speed limit increases, even after accounting for changes in vehicle miles of travel.

So everyone n your village is of the same beliefs in white cross. Must be a dedicated entire neighborhood to switch beliefs to prove a point. My parents could not have allowed a cross no matter how small in their personal space.

Why does a little white cross bother anyone? If it were a hammer/sickle flag I would look at it and roll my eyes, but I wouldn't get my undies in a bunch. You do you, I'll do me. Live and let live.

Paint the crosses camouflage. No one will see them?
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Nearly Nobody was actually going 55, like 65 to 70 plus. When they increased it to 70 that means nearly everybody was going 80 to 85 plus. Another thing there no limit till you get caught.

Just move up in northern districts can do what you want. Lawn ornaments galore brick in all of CYVs yard including easements and use whole front yard as parking lot, but don’t try to gravel patio vIlla yard..

Or just claim they are AIRBNB customers and there will be no enforcement.

The issue everyone seems to be ignoring is that any type of lawn ornament, be it a white cross or a deer statue, is that any of them need to be located under the eaves of the house. If these people had complied with this district restriction, they wouldn’t be in court today. This is not a religious issue. Rather it is a deed restriction issue.

It's great to see that we weren't able to get through a week, without a "little white crosses" thread.

You can't have one! You signed a Deed Restriction that they are NOT ALLOWED in TV.

SIMPLE.

The government controls our C&R? I would be curious how many of the same ornaments are represented inside the same home? I do not need to advertise the pink flamingo in my front yard for the neighbors to look at all day as I have one inside it, LOL

How about reading and complying with the deed restrictions that you agreed to when buying a house in TV. This is not government overreach at all.

what is next???

opening the door.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Are you okay with your neighbor's swastika on their front lawn? How about a pagan pentagram? Or a Muslim crescent moon? If you find any of those to be offensive, then you have your answer to your question.

Personally I consider the white crosses to be stupid. I'm not Christian. But I've read the old and new testament, along with several other religious texts. Nowhere have I read that a white cross on the front lawn was an important part of anyone's religion.

I've also read in the New Testament various statements to the effect of - if you have to advertise, you're doing it wrong.

Personally, I have no problem with my neighbors personalizing their property, regardless of "deed restrictions." I am lucky that I live in a district that has very a very limited amount of restrictions and it does not bother me whatsoever. In my opinion, many folks that are "offended" by the little white crosses, have more issues than a mere violation of the deed restrictions. Many do not even understand the meaning/reasoning behind the display of the white cross in public. I am not going to quote the story that caused the issue to go viral because it is very easy to search the story on the Internet. For those that compare the white cross violation with the idea of displaying a swastika, or some other symbol that they feel one should be offended by, I don't easily offend. What offends one, may not offend another. Like I said, I like the idea of personalizing ones property. Maybe the new districts being built should set a restriction that all residents have only white cars and must park their vehicle in their garage after dark. The village of Valdosta consists of CYV all painted gray. Not my cup of tea, but the villas are occupied with folks that are probably content with their Navy base housing gray mimic. The next village on Tally Ridge consists of CYVs that consist of several different colors. C'mon folks, lets get it together....left, right, left, right, one two three four. We have a lot of nosey folks here, that seem to be easily offended by the actions of others. "But, but, but...." Some find it easy to rely on the old "rules are rules" until they break a rule or law. I find it amusing that we have so many easily offended folks in The Villages.....land of good neighbors....
BTW, I put a little white cross in my front yard. I didn't NEED to display my religious preference. I did it in support of the issue. And yes, I do know what I am supporting. Hint: Look up "White Cross Movement started in Frankenmuth, Michigan in 2008"

Rules are rules. If you let crosses in, then where does it stop? Everyone would then want their own “symbol” out on their property. Where would the line be drawn?

Common sense prevails!

By your “reasoning”, then any symbol on display is fair game. Religious preferences be damned. This does not compute. Where does it stop? Perhaps a nice LBGTQ+ display in your front yard! Giddy up!

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BTW, I put a little white cross in my front yard. I didn't NEED to display my religious preference. I did it in support of the issue. And yes, I do know what I am supporting. Hint: Look up "White Cross Movement started in Frankenmuth, Michigan in 2008"[/QUOTE]

Ok, I did look it up and the initial movement was because someone “tagged” a bridge which belonged to the city with something that he wanted removed (justified). Second, as a citizen he felt the city should consider changing their shield as it was something that he felt needed refreshed (a citizen within their rights to request this similar to a company changing its logo). However, citizens felt offended by a citizen acting within their rights so they felt they should go against their rules by further displaying the same thing for their neighbors to see? I really do not need your “powerful and inspiring message for all Americans passing them every day” unless you’re paying for it on a billboard on the Turnpike (then acting within the rules).

Big issue about white crosses, but nothing said about political flags flying year around, some of them not so nice. If not crosses, then make home owners take down their political flags.

“There’s a Merrseschmitt on the front lawn! Somebody clean it up!”
—Rodney Dangerfield

And, unfortunately, there aren’t enough police on the roads to catch some of the excessive (like 20+ mph over !) speeders out tgerr

The home, in that case, is located in CDD-8. The homeowner is Wayne Anderson, who is running for a seat on the CDD-8 Board of Supervisors in the November election. Only voters who live in CDD-8 can vote for that office. Wayne's profile is available on the Sumter County Supervisror of Election website.
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Don't need a little white cross in a garden. Just "the blood of a lamb" over your door for if shtf again. Ifkyk.

It's my understanding TV does not go looking for these things and only responds to the squeaky wheel. Thus, someone must have been offended and reported it. Rules are rules, and when you buy here you sign documents that say you will follow the rules. It's pretty simple.

Little white crosses ?
 

I know the church places them to represent abortions recently performed. Whatever anyone’s opinion about abortions, it is probably not the point of the villages. If these symbols are allowed what will be next ? A hammer and cycle as has been opined or a swastika.
Maybe little white cross is inoculating but The Villages does have a point.

This is America.
 

In America, we have a Constitutional Right to Freedom of Speech. Whether a White Cross, a Red, White, and Blue flag with 50 white stars, or a Grey Sandhill Crane...the choice & place of display belongs to the citizen. Look away if you don't like it. Sometimes it's better to say nothing at all.

Drive through a community that do not have restrictions, or chooses not to enforce, and you will see your answer.

Placing "white crosses" is not speech, in case you haven't noticed .... it's a "display". "Speech" is generally verbal.

& even if you have some constitutional right to say whatever you think you should be able to speak, you signed away that right, when you bought a home in TV.

If you prefer to exercise your supposed "right of free speech", perhaps you should dress yourself up as a "little white cross", stand on your front porch and scream as loud as you're able ... "I am a little white cross".

Well. Thank you I did not know what the white crosses meant so I looked it up

So the white crosses represent Christian nationalism. That this country was founded on Christian principles and must remain so. The Christian nationalism movement

And Project 2025 is the result and playbook

Not inclusive and very Scary

Lanai is considered inside the home.

The white crosses I have seen are nearly invisible unless you are looking for them. I find it humorous that political signs are restricted in some locations (in a window) but are allowed on a golf cart or car.

You got 3 pages of responses to add to the thousands already in the archieves.
Ad nauseam.

Pretty simple, there is no deed restrictions against it. Plus the carts are driven on public roads.

Please don't confuse posters with logic, law and common sense.

little white cross
 

These single little white and plain cross does not bother us as long as they r in their lawn by house. What about over numerous lawn ornaments, giant seasonal decors such as Skeleton, balloon Santa, Bunny, ugly cactus, etc.?

Ohiobuckeye
 

That was an issue when we lived in TV 5 yrs. ago. If my memory serves me right TV said you couldn’t put anything out in the yard, it had to be back where your bushes are. To make it short somehow the homeowners don’t own from the bushes to the street. If I’m wrong correct me, not trying to make trouble but this has been an earlier issue.