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hdanielblank 10-13-2024 08:45 PM

No golf until november?
 
I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

Stu from NYC 10-13-2024 08:47 PM

Just be thankful how well the system prevented flooding

Southwest737 10-13-2024 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hdanielblank (Post 2378820)
I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

With Irma 7 years ago it took a couple weeks before golf started opening up. Championship courses get priority over executive.
Whatever the time frame management should extend the renewal dates of all golfers who paid for enhanced membership and/or executive trail fees. That is what the paper does when you put the paper on hold.

Bogie Shooter 10-13-2024 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hdanielblank (Post 2378820)
I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? ( maybe a rumor, how would we know if true)

If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages( makes no difference)

. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner?( should be left to the experts)
I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion ( what is a valid opinion)
so I'd like to hear from you.


It is what it is……

blueash 10-13-2024 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Southwest737 (Post 2378826)
Whatever the time frame management should extend the renewal dates of all golfers who paid for enhanced membership and/or executive trail fees. That is what the paper does when you put the paper on hold.

Yeah, right on, and don't forget I need credit for any rainy days where there were no points, oh and days that were cart path only as I don't golf those days, and any too cold days too and heat emergency over 95 degree days too. I need my $$ credits. /s

tophcfa 10-13-2024 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hdanielblank (Post 2378820)
I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

Not surprising using Irma in 2017 as a baseline. Courses were closed for a couple weeks after that storm and then began to slowly open up over time. Although I believe Irma dropped more rain on the Villages than Milton, the ground was already saturated and water levels were high before Milton arrived. After Irma Lake Sumter wasn’t nearly as high as after Milton.

Topspinmo 10-13-2024 10:22 PM

No different than when everything was shut down during initial Covid but golf. What goes around comes around…:shrug: now golfers experiencing what rest of use had to endure.

FloridaGuy66 10-13-2024 11:14 PM

Does anyone have any recommendations on closeby courses outside of TV that are reasonably priced to play 9 or 18 holes?

graciegirl 10-13-2024 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2378821)
Just be thankful how well the system prevented flooding

I so agree.

golfing eagles 10-14-2024 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2378831)
No different than when everything was shut down during initial Covid but golf. What goes around comes around…:shrug: now golfers experiencing what rest of use had to endure.

Do I sense a case of "sour grapes"?????----Hard to do when comparing apples to oranges:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Papa_lecki 10-14-2024 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66 (Post 2378835)
Does anyone have any recommendations on closeby courses outside of TV that are reasonably priced to play 9 or 18 holes?

Those courses got rain too.

dewilson58 10-14-2024 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hdanielblank (Post 2378820)
I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

Check with your hairdresser's brother-in-law's neighbor.

GpaVader 10-14-2024 06:13 AM

I suspect it will be a while before Continental Country Club opens up. They got nailed with a ton of uprooted trees and broken limbs...

Marathon Man 10-14-2024 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2378829)
Yeah, right on, and don't forget I need credit for any rainy days where there were no points, oh and days that were cart path only as I don't golf those days, and any too cold days too and heat emergency over 95 degree days too. I need my $$ credits. /s

Well said. People just don't seem to understand that costs don't go to zero when the courses are closed.

Stu from NYC 10-14-2024 08:24 AM

Could be worse op, your house could have been washed away so no more worrying about playing golf

justjim 10-14-2024 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2378917)
Could be worse op, your house could have been washed away so no more worrying about playing golf

I agree. Golfers need to chill out once in a while and now would be a good time. Have you ever heard of “burn out”? Yes, it can happen to a golfer too. Just saying - from experience…

tophcfa 10-14-2024 08:42 AM

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I agree. Golfers need to chill out once in a while and now would be a good time. Have you ever heard of “burn out”? Yes, it can happen to a golfer too. Just saying - from experience…

Plenty of time to chill out when I die.

Topspinmo 10-14-2024 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2378843)
Do I sense a case of "sour grapes"?????----Hard to do when comparing apples to oranges:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Only you’re apples right.

fdpaq0580 10-14-2024 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2378843)
Do I sense a case of "sour grapes"?????----Hard to do when comparing apples to oranges:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Grapes? Apples? Oranges? You into making fruit salad, or margaritas? Inquiring minds want to know? 😀😄😉

fdpaq0580 10-14-2024 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2378931)
Plenty of time to chill out when I die.

I'm going to chill out now! I might end up hauling fuel to the fire when I die. I was naughty once

Stu from NYC 10-14-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2378987)
Grapes? Apples? Oranges? You into making fruit salad, or margaritas? Inquiring minds want to know? 😀😄😉

Thinking margaritas:pepper2:

golfing eagles 10-14-2024 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2378987)
Grapes? Apples? Oranges? You into making fruit salad, or margaritas? Inquiring minds want to know? 😀😄😉

Do I really have to explain it????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Stu from NYC 10-14-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2379010)
Do I really have to explain it????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Apparently

DonH57 10-14-2024 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Southwest737 (Post 2378826)
With Irma 7 years ago it took a couple weeks before golf started opening up. Championship courses get priority over executive.
Whatever the time frame management should extend the renewal dates of all golfers who paid for enhanced membership and/or executive trail fees. That is what the paper does when you put the paper on hold.

If only. Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen even if it were for months.

DARFAP 10-14-2024 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hdanielblank (Post 2378820)
I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

Same thing happened with Debby in August. These courses are already saturated and are now flooded again.

Aces4 10-14-2024 02:00 PM

As I posted in a similar thread:

A change of perspective regarding the golf courses... they are primarily water retention and detention areas. When the areas aren't in use for water storage, one is welcome to use the golf courses built within to make people think they have fine golf courses. It all balances out, one just needs to develop another hobby other than golf for the "closed" days.

BrianL99 10-14-2024 03:17 PM

So while there's all this complaining about TV courses being closed ....

Streamsong is closed.
Bay Hill is closed.
Innisbrook is closed.
Celebration is closed.
1 of the 2 courses at Grand Cypress are closed.

All the above are rated in the Top 30 of public access courses in FL.

Among the private clubs that are closed:

Mountain Lake
The Concession
Pelican Golf Club

Babufrick 10-14-2024 07:10 PM

Golf Updates are frequently posted here. They use the word MAY take a few weeks for ALL EXECUTIVE courses.

Infers some courses will open in shorter time frame.

Updates will be provided as reopening
procedures and post-storm evaluations take place.

https://www.districtgov.org/PdfUploa...20&%20Golf.pdf

jimhoward 10-14-2024 08:27 PM

I am new to the villages, so new I'm not there yet. I close on my new house in a couple of weeks. I drove up there today to see if there was any flood or wind damage to my new house. Everything okay. I was amazed at the drainage system. All kinds of drains sending water to the golf courses and the ponds and preserves.

I think the duration of the course closures is unique to the villages. So many houses are in a flood plane. I didn't even know you could build where they are building and have built. It is engineering magic. Our golf suffers, but i sense that most residents approve of the strategy.

I currently belong to the golf club at Reunion resort in Kissimmee. We three courses on property. One was open one day after the hurricane, two were open 2 days after the hurricane. All three are open now. So its not that all courses in Florida are closed, its mostly just the villages. But I think everybody understands why, the elevation in the housing developments is low.

Papa_lecki 10-14-2024 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2379094)
I am new to the villages, so new I'm not there yet. I close on my new house in a couple of weeks. I drove up there today to see if there was any flood or wind damage to my new house. Everything okay. I was amazed at the drainage system. All kinds of drains sending water to the golf courses and the ponds and preserves.

I think the duration of the course closures is unique to the villages. So many houses are in a flood plane. I didn't even know you could build where they are building and have built. It is engineering magic. Our golf suffers, but i sense that most residents approve of the strategy.

I currently belong to the golf club at Reunion resort in Kissimmee. We three courses on property. One was open one day after the hurricane, two were open 2 days after the hurricane. All three are open now. So its not that all courses in Florida are closed, its mostly just the villages. But I think everybody understands why, the elevation in the housing developments is low.

Is that the club with a $7500 initiation fee, monthly dues of $780 and you pay $30 for a round of gold? Completely different business model.

https://www.reunionrealty.com/wp-con...er-Charges.pdf

Mleeja 10-14-2024 09:17 PM

In my unofficial survey today, Briarwood and Walnut Grove looks like they could be playable. El Diablo is still under water on a couple of holes, but the greens looks great.

Aces4 10-14-2024 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2379095)
Is that the club with a $7500 initiation fee, monthly dues of $780 and you pay $30 for a round of gold? Completely different business model.

https://www.reunionrealty.com/wp-con...er-Charges.pdf

It's the same ole story, you get what you pay for...

BrianL99 10-15-2024 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2379094)
I am new to the villages, so new I'm not there yet.


I think the duration of the course closures is unique to the villages. So many houses are in a flood plane. I didn't even know you could build where they are building and have built. It is engineering magic. Our golf suffers, but i sense that most residents approve of the strategy.

So its not that all courses in Florida are closed, its mostly just the villages. But I think everybody understands why, the elevation in the housing developments is low.


The home elevations in TV are no different than most anywhere else in FL. In fact, much of the construction in TV is at a higher level than most. Unlike much of FL, we don't have a nearby ocean to absorb excess drainage.

Courses are closed all over Florida, read the news.

The reason TV golf courses may appear to be more affected than other areas, is the development strategy in TV is different than in most other places. We are a golf-centric community. We need huge amounts of lateral space to accommodate the courses. Unlike most housing developments, TV opted to use that lateral space for a dual purpose ... water detention and golf. Genius move.

The majority of the golf courses don't become "drainage areas", until we reach about a 25 year storm event ... once every 25 years. Other golf courses only flood in a 50 or 100 year storm. 1000's of acres of land, serving a dual purpose, that's likely to impact TV residents, once during the time they live in The Villages.. GENIUS !

RouseysMom 10-15-2024 04:29 AM

Thank you for the helpful information.

PersonOfInterest 10-15-2024 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66 (Post 2378835)
Does anyone have any recommendations on closeby courses outside of TV that are reasonably priced to play 9 or 18 holes?

Baseline, Open - Eagle Ridge, Open - Harbor Hills, Open

Rwirish 10-15-2024 04:57 AM

See Irma. Yes, normal.

bdeminico 10-15-2024 05:29 AM

Credit?
 
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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2378829)
Yeah, right on, and don't forget I need credit for any rainy days where there were no points, oh and days that were cart path only as I don't golf those days, and any too cold days too and heat emergency over 95 degree days too. I need my $$ credits. /s

Sounds like you should take up another hobby. Or use the "pay as you go" method

jimdecastro 10-15-2024 05:33 AM

I have been telling this to people for a week. I think MID-November is more like it. As someone on a pond, I thank God for the system - we were about a foot from the banks overflowing into my house. They are still about 2 feet above capacity. Another storm will be very costly to residents if it came now.

sdeikenberry 10-15-2024 05:36 AM

We are very lucky that the developer thought about water mitigation before building homes. Just look outside The Villages at all the flooding and realize we don’t have to deal with that.

bowlingal 10-15-2024 06:06 AM

I'm sure you can find something to do until the courses open. Do you still have your house standing? Have you been flooded out? Count your blessings and stop complaining. Many people do not a place to live.


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