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Lottoguy 11-14-2024 10:10 AM

Anyone watch that ufo hearing in congress?
 
Last year opened the door with the first Congressional UFO hearing. Yesterday was the second of what is promised to be many. I'm looking forward to the next one because these testimonies have been real eye openers that everyone should watch.

Velvet 11-14-2024 11:02 AM

I was reading about it in The Wall Street Journal… creepy… expected but still…

fdpaq0580 11-14-2024 11:05 AM

Sorry I missed it. 👽👽👽

rjm1cc 11-14-2024 02:06 PM

Is there any country that says they have seen a UFO?

coralway 11-14-2024 05:07 PM

After a few beers, UFOs seem to be everywhere. It’s quite a coincidence.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-14-2024 08:11 PM

Oh yes, the underwater orb-growing business. I saw a clip of it. I was mostly just very sad for our country that people who are in positions of power actually believe this tripe.

fdpaq0580 11-14-2024 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2386467)
Oh yes, the underwater orb-growing business. I saw a clip of it. I was mostly just very sad for our country that people who are in positions of power actually believe this tripe.

Unidentified Flying Object! You have never seen something that you couldn't identify? I have. Many times. But (big "but"), that doesn't translate automatically to believing in flying saucers, little green men, ghosts or sasquatch. Just interesting phenomena that are currently not understood. In my book, weird is wonderful and mysterious is marvelous. How boring life would be without a few mysteries to solve.
And don't be sad for our country alone. The world is full of folks that believe all kinds of bs. Our country is no more immune than any other.
Maybe one day, if we survive, humans may run out of things to stir our imagination, but I don't think so.

Velvet 11-14-2024 10:43 PM

WSJ:

Luis Elizondo (former Department of Defense official)

“Let me be clear: UAP are real,” said Elizondo, who added that much of his government work is still classified. “Advanced technologies not made by our government, or any other government, are monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe.”

During questioning by Mace, Elizondo said that the government has a secret UAP crash retrieval program to identify and reverse engineer aircraft it finds.

In 2021, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a report reviewing dozens of reports of mysterious flying objects between 2004 and 2021. The report identified several objects that appeared to use technology beyond the known capabilities of U.S. or adversary technology.

Topspinmo 11-14-2024 10:50 PM

Why? Either believer or non believer and not going to convince either one.

Velvet 11-14-2024 11:17 PM

Just my impression, science is not a matter of belief, but the information is kept quiet to avoid possible panic.

eyc234 11-15-2024 07:58 AM

Repeating what top space scientist has said. So an advanced race that can move across space from a planet outside our solar system, 4.2 light years away(5.8786E+12 miles x 4.2) and they crash on our planet. They are also advanced enough to make this trip but are so scared of us that they do not make contact. Then there is the lack of proof, with approximately 15 billion cellphones in the world that can capture everything in our life in clear color both as still pictures and video but there is not one clear undeniable picture or video ever presented. As for the conspiracies that governments are keeping things secret, that means that not one of the thousands of people in the government and outside contractors has not come forward with undeniable proof, just saying something is not proof, that all of the governments around the world are in cahoots to keep this information secret. Someone in the last 75 years would have needed or wanted to get rich by being the first to put this proof out and cash in. :shrug:

ThirdOfFive 11-15-2024 08:59 AM

UFO existence (or not) has for at least the past century been the playground for wackos. Reports of alien abductions seem to follow a general pattern: artists' conceptions of the technology of the aliens, as of the time of the report, always seem to reflect the technology of the time. Example: I watched The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951 version) last night. Fascinating how the view screen in Klaatu's space ship looked like, and fired up the same way as the televisions of the time, and anything and everything assumedly electronic was represented in flashing lights and escalating beeps. I have little doubt that the reports of alien contact at the time, and for some time after, looked pretty much the same.

How many such "reports" are factual only in the fevered minds of the person(s) doing the reporting?

Nevertheless, if there have been (say) 10,000 such reports and only one is true--then the other 9,999 don't really matter.

Velvet 11-15-2024 11:02 AM

I’m not sure how it would benefit the Defence Department to make something like this up, but personally I have never seen a UFO.

fdpaq0580 11-15-2024 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2386614)
I’m not sure how it would benefit the Defence Department to make something like this up, but personally I have never seen a UFO.

Would you like to? Would you enjoy/fear seeing something that seemed "unusual" or unreal?
I have been fortunate to have seen, heard, smelled things I could not identify. Sometimes it is exciting. Sometimes it is frightening. But, it reminds me that more things in the universe then our tiny minds can imagine.

graciegirl 11-15-2024 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 2386427)
Is there any country that says they have seen a UFO?

I saw it discussed too on News Nation. I really do not think they exist, but it appears that more than half of the American public do think they exist.

I am trying to keep an open mind.

fdpaq0580 11-15-2024 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2386643)
I saw it discussed too on News Nation. I really do not think they exist, but it appears that more than half of the American public do think they exist.

I am trying to keep an open mind.

Remember, the first letter of UFO, uap, etc, is "U", which stands for "Unidentified". It doesn't necessarily mean aliens, monsters, or even something real.
And please keep your mind open. A closed mind is a rotting, stagnant stew that produces nothing good.
Nanunanu!

michgary 11-15-2024 02:33 PM

Congressional hearing 2023 ,, you can either believe this whistle blower, or think he is a big fat liar ... there is much more testimony this is just a snippet..:shocked:

‘Non-human’ biological material from UFO recovered, says US officer | News | Independent TV

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-15-2024 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2386470)
Unidentified Flying Object! You have never seen something that you couldn't identify? I have. Many times. But (big "but"), that doesn't translate automatically to believing in flying saucers, little green men, ghosts or sasquatch. Just interesting phenomena that are currently not understood. In my book, weird is wonderful and mysterious is marvelous. How boring life would be without a few mysteries to solve.
And don't be sad for our country alone. The world is full of folks that believe all kinds of bs. Our country is no more immune than any other.
Maybe one day, if we survive, humans may run out of things to stir our imagination, but I don't think so.

I absolutely believe in life on other planets, and I absolutely believe it's possible that we've been visited by entities from those other planets.

But there's a difference between believing in its existence and believing in some vast conspiracy that the government is farming alien orbs under the ocean surface and that this conspiracy must be exposed, by government officials, on the taxpayer dime, just to prove that the government person(s) attempting to expose this insanity actually DOES something while employed by the taxpayer.

Time can be better spent investigating why clothes driers collect lint that has to be manually removed, and not chemically disintegrated instead.

Topspinmo 11-15-2024 09:28 PM

I rest my case.

Topspinmo 11-15-2024 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2386575)
UFO existence (or not) has for at least the past century been the playground for wackos. Reports of alien abductions seem to follow a general pattern: artists' conceptions of the technology of the aliens, as of the time of the report, always seem to reflect the technology of the time. Example: I watched The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951 version) last night. Fascinating how the view screen in Klaatu's space ship looked like, and fired up the same way as the televisions of the time, and anything and everything assumedly electronic was represented in flashing lights and escalating beeps. I have little doubt that the reports of alien contact at the time, and for some time after, looked pretty much the same.

How many such "reports" are factual only in the fevered minds of the person(s) doing the reporting?

Nevertheless, if there have been (say) 10,000 such reports and only one is true--then the other 9,999 don't really matter.

Roswell was biggest cover up is American history.

fdpaq0580 11-15-2024 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2386685)
Time can be better spent investigating why clothes driers collect lint that has to be manually removed, and not chemically disintegrated instead.

I don't know about "disintegrated", but I think incinerated is very possible. However, using "bug zapper" technology to incinerate lint would likely leave some kind of ash residue, the smoke/gas given off may be toxic, and there would be concerns for safety and energy usage. Not worth the trouble, imo. If you really don't want to use your fingers, use a small hand vacume to suck the lint off the screen. Just a thought.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-15-2024 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2386719)
I don't know about "disintegrated", but I think incinerated is very possible. However, using "bug zapper" technology to incinerate lint would likely leave some kind of ash residue, the smoke/gas given off may be toxic, and there would be concerns for safety and energy usage. Not worth the trouble, imo. If you really don't want to use your fingers, use a small hand vacume to suck the lint off the screen. Just a thought.

The point: Time and taxpayer dollars can be better spent by government on ridiculously mundane issues of no real importance, rather than on "uncovering" a "conspiracy" of space alien orb farms under the ocean surface.

fdpaq0580 11-15-2024 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2386720)
The point: Time and taxpayer dollars can be better spent by government on ridiculously mundane issues of no real importance, rather than on "uncovering" a "conspiracy" of space alien orb farms under the ocean surface.

Forget the orb farms. If Isreal is our friend, how about letting us get some Jewish space lasers for our military. And what are the orbs good for? Tech? Food? Energy? Why won't anyone tell us any anything? Inquiring minds want to know, dagnabbit! 🤬

Ptmcbriz 11-16-2024 09:15 AM

I have seen things through my telescope I cannot explain. I’ve seen rainbow colored light that looks like a star, but when I looked at it through the telescope, the ball of light morphed into a solid craft, then within seconds morphed back into a ball of colorful undulating light, almost like it had the appearance of a ball of colorful mercury. For a lack of a better term I call them plasma ships. I’ve actually seen several. However, only once did I see it change shape into a solid spacecraft.

ElDiabloJoe 11-16-2024 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2386632)
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I have been fortunate to have seen, heard, smelled things I could not identify. Sometimes it is exciting. Sometimes it is frightening...

Sorry, that was probably my laundry.

Regorp 11-16-2024 10:09 AM

Ufo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2386380)
Last year opened the door with the first Congressional UFO hearing. Yesterday was the second of what is promised to be many. I'm looking forward to the next one because these testimonies have been real eye openers that everyone should watch.

There is evidence worldwide of visits by extraterrestrial beings with paintings on walls and much more for thousands of years. Watch Ancient Aliens and see the proof

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-16-2024 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2386723)
Forget the orb farms. If Isreal is our friend, how about letting us get some Jewish space lasers for our military. And what are the orbs good for? Tech? Food? Energy? Why won't anyone tell us any anything? Inquiring minds want to know, dagnabbit! 🤬

I'm Jewish. I have exactly seven space lasers. I'll give you one of them in exchange for lifetime comprehensive health care with 0 premium, 0 copay, 0 deductible, 0 out of pocket expense, including prescription meds, durable medical equipment, vision, and dental.

You wouldn't be able to control the weather in California with it but you should be able to water your lawn every 2nd day with 15 minutes of rain, and add a shield to the atmosphere over your head for when everyone else's hurricanes and tornadoes start coming through.

Whatcha say hm?

fdpaq0580 11-16-2024 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2386716)
Roswell was biggest cover up is American history.

Big, for sure. But, not the biggest.
😎 Trust me.

fdpaq0580 11-16-2024 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2386833)
I'm Jewish. I have exactly seven space lasers. I'll give you one of them in exchange for lifetime comprehensive health care with 0 premium, 0 copay, 0 deductible, 0 out of pocket expense, including prescription meds, durable medical equipment, vision, and dental.

You wouldn't be able to control the weather in California with it but you should be able to water your lawn every 2nd day with 15 minutes of rain, and add a shield to the atmosphere over your head for when everyone else's hurricanes and tornadoes start coming through.

Whatcha say hm?

My Best Man at my wedding was Jewish. Can you get it for wholesale? After all, we are almost family.

jimjamuser 11-16-2024 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2386550)
Repeating what top space scientist has said. So an advanced race that can move across space from a planet outside our solar system, 4.2 light years away(5.8786E+12 miles x 4.2) and they crash on our planet. They are also advanced enough to make this trip but are so scared of us that they do not make contact. Then there is the lack of proof, with approximately 15 billion cellphones in the world that can capture everything in our life in clear color both as still pictures and video but there is not one clear undeniable picture or video ever presented. As for the conspiracies that governments are keeping things secret, that means that not one of the thousands of people in the government and outside contractors has not come forward with undeniable proof, just saying something is not proof, that all of the governments around the world are in cahoots to keep this information secret. Someone in the last 75 years would have needed or wanted to get rich by being the first to put this proof out and cash in. :shrug:

The rationale of the pro-alien people would be that the aliens being so advanced are able to get here and NOT be detected. Their advanced science means that they have great intellectual capacity and CURIOSITY. So they want to study us like humans study animals in a zoo. They don't want to have contact with us because they want their observational experiment to stay PURE. Our wars and nation-state competitions may be something they want to study because they HAD similarities in their long distant history.

jimjamuser 11-16-2024 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2386808)
I have seen things through my telescope I cannot explain. I’ve seen rainbow colored light that looks like a star, but when I looked at it through the telescope, the ball of light morphed into a solid craft, then within seconds morphed back into a ball of colorful undulating light, almost like it had the appearance of a ball of colorful mercury. For a lack of a better term I call them plasma ships. I’ve actually seen several. However, only once did I see it change shape into a solid spacecraft.

I have to say that seems like an interesting experience.

SHIBUMI 11-16-2024 11:32 AM

Abducted
 
I was abducted as a young young child. I was put into an oxygen chamber and fed thru a tube so they didn't have to touch me.

They ran all kinds of tests on me but I could never see them. At one point I realized they were taking pictures as well for their files.

When I finally left the chamber, it was a real shock. I cried but I could breathe and see them. They were huge and odd looking. Big Hair, Big Teeth, Big Noses. But they were not mad. Just the opposite, they seemed to be smiling a lot.

After a short while I began to understand their language. It frightened me. They were talking about a tooth fairy , a Loch Ness monster, a Santa Claus, a Big Foot, equal rights for all under the law, UFO's, UAP's.

I suddenly realized they were from another world!:wave:


chamber
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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2386380)
Last year opened the door with the first Congressional UFO hearing. Yesterday was the second of what is promised to be many. I'm looking forward to the next one because these testimonies have been real eye openers that everyone should watch.


Marine1974 11-16-2024 11:58 AM

UFO reported to follow US space craft orbiting the moon .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2386380)
Last year opened the door with the first Congressional UFO hearing. Yesterday was the second of what is promised to be many. I'm looking forward to the next one because these testimonies have been real eye openers that everyone should watch.

It has been reported by the astronaut orbiting the moon while the moon lander was on the moon a UFO was following his craft for 5 orbits around the moon . The public feed was stopped .
But that said , I don’t trust government funding of programs
like transgender monkeys.

MorTech 11-16-2024 02:38 PM

Extraterrestrial conscious beings almost certainly exist in the universe but they will never have the ability to get here...Nor will we be able to get there. It's a physics problem. Don't be so gullible.

swooner 11-16-2024 03:25 PM

Who cares"

Taltarzac725 11-16-2024 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2386643)
I saw it discussed too on News Nation. I really do not think they exist, but it appears that more than half of the American public do think they exist.

I am trying to keep an open mind.

Any intelligent peaceful watcher of earth 2024 would be heading as fast as possible away from us. Now if it were in the other meaning of "to serve man" maybe they would be sticking around.

fdpaq0580 11-16-2024 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2386908)
Extraterrestrial conscious beings almost certainly exist in the universe but they will never have the ability to get here...Nor will we be able to get there. It's a physics problem. Don't be so gullible.

Strike "conscious" (as opposed to unconscious), insert "sentient".
As to traveling, problems are there for us to solve. And the solution is nearer than you can imagine. Don't be so closed minded.

fdpaq0580 11-16-2024 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2386940)
Any intelligent peaceful watcher of earth 2024 would be heading as fast as possible away from us. Now if it were in the other meaning of "to serve man" maybe they would be sticking around.

Peace loving ETs able to come here would most certainly be able to protect themselves from us.

Taltarzac725 11-16-2024 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2386953)
Peace loving ETs able to come here would most certainly be able to protect themselves from us.

If and when we get to warp speed I am sure if they are out there they will pay us a visit. So far we have been an extremely war loving species. At least, it seems like some part of humanity has been fighting another part for the last four thousand years. I am going a lot on what is in the Old Testament.

fdpaq0580 11-16-2024 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2386955)
If and when we get to warp speed I am sure if they are out there they will pay us a visit. So far we have been an extremely war loving species. At least, it seems like some part of humanity has been fighting another part for the last four thousand years. I am going a lot on what is in the Old Testament.

"We" have been fighting amongst ourselves since way before we were even human. Look at chimpanzees, our closest kin. We shared a common ancestor. Those cute chimps are vicious, bloodthirsty warriors that won't hesitate to go to war with neighboring tribes. We share roughly 98% of our genes with them. Watching them is like looking at our ourselves so many tens of thousands of years ago.


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