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mvasilik1 11-19-2024 09:21 AM

Club Car Cart's Value
 
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?

tophcfa 11-19-2024 09:31 AM

Yes, club car is marginally less expensive, but drive both and consider your carting experience over many years. We have both a club car and a Yamaha. Hands down, I prefer driving the Yamaha and my wife loves the club car. To each his/her own.

BrianL99 11-19-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?

That's because the dealers in TV take advantage of local residents, in every way they can.

ClubCar is far superior to Yamaha. Call 10 golf course PGA Professionals and they'll all tell you the exact same thing. Hardly any private golf course in America, opts for the Yamaha option.

Topspinmo 11-19-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387375)
That's because the dealers in TV take advantage of local residents, in every way they can.

ClubCar is far superior to Yamaha. Call 10 golf course PGA Professionals and they'll all tell you the exact same thing. Hardly any private golf course in America, opts for the Yamaha option.

They’re cheaper and they don’t keep them that long. Business Economic’s.

BrianL99 11-19-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387375)
That's because the dealers in TV take advantage of local residents, in every way they can.

ClubCar is far superior to Yamaha. Call 10 golf course PGA Professionals and they'll all tell you the exact same thing. Hardly any private golf course in America, opts for the Yamaha option.

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2387385)
They’re cheaper and they don’t keep them that long. Business Economic’s.

ClubCar is more expensive than Yamaha or EZGo, everywhere in the world, except perhaps ... TV. They're vastly superior to Yamaha carts. The only place anyone buys Yamaha Golf Carts, is in TV .... because the Morse family cut a deal with Yamaha, many years ago. Somewhere approaching 75% of gasoline driven, Yamaha Golf Cart production, goes to TV. No one else wants them.

Comparing Yamaha to ClubCar, is like comparing a Hyundai to a Cadillac.

JMintzer 11-19-2024 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387422)
ClubCar is more expensive than Yamaha or EZGo, everywhere in the world, except perhaps ... TV. They're vastly superior to Yamaha carts. The only place anyone buys Yamaha Golf Carts, is in TV .... because the Morse family cut a deal with Yamaha, many years ago. Somewhere approaching 75% of gasoline driven, Yamaha Golf Cart production, goes to TV. No one else wants them.

Comparing Yamaha to ClubCar, is like comparing a Hyundai to a Cadillac.

Your post means nothing unless you tell us WHY they are "vastly superior" to Yamaha...

Otherwise, it just your opinion...

4$ALE 11-19-2024 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2387456)
Your post means nothing unless you tell us WHY they are "vastly superior" to Yamaha...

Otherwise, it just your opinion...

:rolleyes: I agree and we all know what they say about opinions. :oops:

BrianL99 11-19-2024 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 4$ALE (Post 2387457)
:rolleyes: I agree and we all know what they say about opinions. :oops:

Not just my opinion, it's the opinion of most experts and those in the business. Even ChatGPT knows.

UpNorth 11-19-2024 07:11 PM

Club Cars have to be the LOUDEST carts on the road. My golf course up north has used them for the past couple of years. You can hear one coming several holes away. If you like LOUD, get a Club Car.

dewilson58 11-19-2024 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2387463)
Club Cars have to be the LOUDEST carts on the road. My golf course up north has used them for the past couple of years. You can here one coming several holes away. If you like LOUD, get a Club Car.

:bigbow:

tophcfa 11-19-2024 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387422)
ClubCar is more expensive than Yamaha or EZGo, everywhere in the world, except perhaps ... TV. They're vastly superior to Yamaha carts. The only place anyone buys Yamaha Golf Carts, is in TV .... because the Morse family cut a deal with Yamaha, many years ago. Somewhere approaching 75% of gasoline driven, Yamaha Golf Cart production, goes to TV. No one else wants them.

Comparing Yamaha to ClubCar, is like comparing a Hyundai to a Cadillac.

I call BS on that. Own both and know from first hand experience over 9+ years. Yamaha is way more reliable, has more room and is way more comfortable for a tall person, is significantly quieter, handles significantly better, takes bumps way better, and has a ton of aftermarket accessories available. Our Club Car does have one advantage, the really loud engine has better acceleration and torque. That being said, my wife, who is only 5’1” tall, loves her CC, she can’t reach the gas pedal on the Yamaha. On the other hand, when I drive the CC, my knees are cramped and I have to duck to see below the roof.

kkingston57 11-19-2024 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387375)
That's because the dealers in TV take advantage of local residents, in every way they can.

ClubCar is far superior to Yamaha. Call 10 golf course PGA Professionals and they'll all tell you the exact same thing. Hardly any private golf course in America, opts for the Yamaha option.

f the

Correct. Most clubs use electric carts and opt to use Club Cars.

kkingston57 11-19-2024 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2387463)
Club Cars have to be the LOUDEST carts on the road. My golf course up north has used them for the past couple of years. You can hear one coming several holes away. If you like LOUD, get a Club Car.

True, but most golf courses use electric carts.

tophcfa 11-19-2024 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2387477)
True, but most golf courses use electric carts.

The high end hoity toity courses that lease the newest technology might have electric carts, but not everywhere. Played Southampton CC in western Massachusetts today and drove a 20 year old carbureted Yamaha that ran like a clock. Beautiful course and great deal, midweek senior green fee of $35 with a cart. That being said, I did have to choke the cart to get it running on the first hole, but that happens before the cart warms up and the temperature is in the low 40’s.

jimhoward 11-19-2024 09:53 PM

While we are at it I like Hyundai too
 
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387422)
ClubCar is more expensive than Yamaha or EZGo, everywhere in the world, except perhaps ... TV. They're vastly superior to Yamaha carts. The only place anyone buys Yamaha Golf Carts, is in TV .... because the Morse family cut a deal with Yamaha, many years ago. Somewhere approaching 75% of gasoline driven, Yamaha Golf Cart production, goes to TV. No one else wants them.

Comparing Yamaha to ClubCar, is like comparing a Hyundai to a Cadillac.

I gave my Mercedes to one of the kids and bought a Hyundai which I love. I wouldn’t take a Cadillac if you gave it to me for free.

As has been said, to each their own.

bobeaston 11-20-2024 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2387463)
Club Cars have to be the LOUDEST carts on the road. My golf course up north has used them for the past couple of years. You can hear one coming several holes away. If you like LOUD, get a Club Car.

Being one of the very few people in TV, I don't own any cart. Yet, as a biking enthusiast who rides the MMPs a lot, I appreciate the Club Cars because I can always hear them approaching. Other than that, their are raucously loud; how do their owners not go deaf?

RoseyRed 11-20-2024 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2387365)
Yes, club car is marginally less expensive, but drive both and consider your carting experience over many years. We have both a club car and a Yamaha. Hands down, I prefer driving the Yamaha and my wife loves the club car. To each his/her own.

I would be interested in what each of you like in the Yamaha and Club carts.

Rocksnap 11-20-2024 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387375)
That's because the dealers in TV take advantage of local residents, in every way they can.

ClubCar is far superior to Yamaha. Call 10 golf course PGA Professionals and they'll all tell you the exact same thing. Hardly any private golf course in America, opts for the Yamaha option.

Club Car is far superior than Yamaha? Baahaahaa thanks for the belly laugh! Yamaha is the #1 selling cart in America. Commercial or private use. It doesn’t take a PHD to figure out why.

banjobob 11-20-2024 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?

Comments are similar back in the day Ford vs Chevy depends on your preference , I like Club Car ,alumimum frame oil pump in the motor oil filter also.

Bay Kid 11-20-2024 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2387476)
f the

Correct. Most clubs use electric carts and opt to use Club Cars.

Our club back home does the 5 year lease on their carts. They usually pick the club cart because of price. Not the same use as we put our carts through here in TVs.

mkjelenbaas 11-20-2024 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?

Do yourself a favor and shop outside TV and save yourself thousands of dollars! You have been warned!!

mrf6969 11-20-2024 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2387476)
f the

Correct. Most clubs use electric carts and opt to use Club Cars.

Most golf courses do use electric carts as they can lease them cheap. It is all about economics. Also, these courses do not require an ultra-long range golf cart, where are you going besides 18 holes? Once the round is done the cart goes to the cart barn and gets plugged in.

mikempp 11-20-2024 07:51 AM

EZGO we like better
 
We have an EZGO and a Yamaha, we both like the EZGO better. Quieter, drives and rides better, much smoother running.

BrianL99 11-20-2024 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2387497)
Club Car is far superior than Yamaha? Baahaahaa thanks for the belly laugh! Yamaha is the #1 selling cart in America. Commercial or private use. It doesn’t take a PHD to figure out why.


You must be smokin' really good stuff, if you believe that.

There's hardly a residential community built in the USA in the last 20 years, that allows "gasoline powered golf carts" ... and that's really all Yamaha has had until a couple of years ago.

81% of the world's golf cart market is battery powered ... that leaves Yamaha in the dust.

mrf6969 11-20-2024 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387539)
You must be smokin' really good stuff, if you believe that.

There's hardly a residential community built in the USA in the last 20 years, that allows "gasoline powered golf carts" ... and that's really all Yamaha has had until a couple of years ago.

Sorry, you do not know what you are talking about. Yamaha has built electric carts for over 25 years. The old G-22 for example and there are today many of these running around TV especially in the pre-historic area that were purchased back in the 1990's.

chuckpedrey 11-20-2024 08:06 AM

My wife has a 1984 Royal Ride that has a Club Car chassis. One would have to “pry it from her cold, dead hands” to take it from her. I have a 2016 gas Yamaha and it rides like a truck. I much prefer the Club Car ride.

MikeN 11-20-2024 08:20 AM

No surprise. Everything costs more in TV

Bilyclub 11-20-2024 08:28 AM

If I ever need a truck I’ll buy a Club Car.

SHIBUMI 11-20-2024 08:29 AM

General Preference
 
If its gas, its a Yamaha........much quieter than other gas and they juice it up so you can go 30 mph, not legal as 20 mph is the norm, but not in the villages

If its electric its Club Car.........better built chassis and suspension, BUT, 20 mph, prefer the quiet and quality

years ago Harley made great golf cars, problem was you couldn't kill them, they went out of business

Golf carts you push or pull, golf cars you drive.........terminology...carts is slang

When golf courses buy golf cars, the costs range from low of EZ-GO, mid of Yamaha, high of Club Car. Trade in value figures in as most courses trade every 5 while value is up. Club Car is also seen as a mark of a higher class of the club. Yamaha has made in roads, BUT,
most clubs buy electric and prefer club car. A golf car for 18 holes is only on for less than 30 minutes so it can go 36 holes.

That being said, get an extended range battery for the villages........or get gas to go fast, the noise will get you sooner or later, but you will ignore because you can go faster..vroom..............

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that a Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?


jimkerr 11-20-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?

You should drive both of them and you'll see why Yamaha is more expensive. It's built so much better than a Club Car. The Yamahas are nice and quiet, and they drive so much better.

The only people that say Club Cars are better are the ones that were not smart enough to buy a Yamaha! Drive them both like I said, and form your own opinion.

HORNET 11-20-2024 10:42 AM

Wrong

HORNET 11-20-2024 10:44 AM

Apples to Oranges! I have a Yamaha and a Streetrod with a Club Car chassis, the Yamaha has been more maintenance free !

Danube 11-20-2024 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2387482)
I gave my Mercedes to one of the kids and bought a Hyundai which I love. I wouldn’t take a Cadillac if you gave it to me for free.

As has been said, to each their own.

My neighbor used to say-

Cadillac, Cadillac
Wish I had my money back

Hyundai Genesis is awesome:
GENESIS - GV60, GV70, GV80, G70, G80, G90 | GENESIS Worldwide

Cadillac is the Oldsmobile of luxury cars.

BrianL99 11-20-2024 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mrf6969 (Post 2387534)
Most golf courses do use electric carts as they can lease them cheap. It is all about economics. Also, these courses do not require an ultra-long range golf cart, where are you going besides 18 holes? Once the round is done the cart goes to the cart barn and gets plugged in.

Most private golf courses use Electric Carts, because Members won't ride in Gasoline carts. It has nothing to do with economics.

BrianL99 11-20-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mrf6969 (Post 2387545)
Sorry, you do not know what you are talking about. Yamaha has built electric carts for over 25 years. The old G-22 for example and there are today many of these running around TV especially in the pre-historic area that were purchased back in the 1990's.

I've been involved in buying or leasing, close to 1000 of them ... how many have you bought?

Call around to Private Golf courses and ask them what kind of carts they have. I doubt you'll find 10% of the private clubs use Yamaha golf carts.

Before Lithium batteries were available, gas Yamahas were a reasonable choice for The Villages. Since Lithium Batteries, the world has changed. According to a reasonable source (who works there), the Developer owned Golf Cart operation is now selling 2:1 battery to gasoline and Star Sirius is their best seller.

I'm sure the legacy gas Yamahas will be around TV for a few more years, but they're fading fast. I think the ClubCar is vastly superior to the Star Sirius (I have a Sirus), but ClubCar doesn't seem to focusing on the off-course market.

maistocars 11-20-2024 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2387467)
:bigbow:

They are also some of the ugliest!

BrianL99 11-20-2024 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danube (Post 2387617)
My neighbor used to say-

Cadillac, Cadillac
Wish I had my money back

Hyundai Genesis is awesome:
GENESIS - GV60, GV70, GV80, G70, G80, G90 | GENESIS Worldwide

Cadillac is the Oldsmobile of luxury cars.


JD Power ranks Cadillac as 4th in Customer Satisfaction in the Premier segment of the automobile market.. Only Lexus, Infiniti and Porsche rank higher.

JD Power ranks Genesis in the lower tier of the Premium Vehicle segment. Recommended areas to improve are: Service, Dealer Experience and general Customer Satisfaction.

dewilson58 11-20-2024 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by maistocars (Post 2387656)
They are also some of the ugliest!

:highfive:

justjim 11-20-2024 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2387482)
I gave my Mercedes to one of the kids and bought a Hyundai which I love. I wouldn’t take a Cadillac if you gave it to me for free.

As has been said, to each their own.

From the looks of a Publix parking lot, you will see many fewer Cadillac’s vs Hyundai’s. I wonder if price has something to do with it? Of course more gas carts/cars than EV carts/cars too. To each their own.

UpNorth 11-20-2024 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387643)
Most private golf courses use Electric Carts, because Members won't ride in Gasoline carts. It has nothing to do with economics.

Some courses don't have a cart barn to park and charge a fleet of electric carts. Expensive to build if you don't have one already. No cart barn on my course, so the gas carts are simply parked outside. But hopefully they will build a barn and charging facility and get rid of those noisy gas Club Cars.


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