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The Gazette 08-21-2025 04:20 PM

Armed man causes panic during attempted carjackings in The Villages
 
Deputies arrested an armed man accused of threatening multiple Villagers during attempted carjackings on Wednesday night. The Sumter County Sheriff’s Office received multiple 911 calls reporting an armed man attempting to enter vehicles at the Walgreens and nearby at the Colony Cottage Recreation Center on Colony Boulevard around 8:15 p.m. Wednesday night.* When deputies arrived,

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Michael G. 08-21-2025 05:03 PM

This guy looks like any father would dream to have a son-in-law look like this.

Taltarzac725 08-21-2025 05:15 PM

I am very surprised he made it out alive doing those crimes.

Aces4 08-21-2025 05:50 PM

Those crimes will probably net him a month in jail and parole. The ole gray mare (The Villages) ain't what she used to be. :(

BillyGrown 08-21-2025 06:50 PM

Conceal and Carry
 
It pays to carry a loaded gun. Criminals are everywhere and just as evident they prowl in the Villages too.

CarlR33 08-21-2025 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyGrown (Post 2455472)
It pays to carry a loaded gun. Criminals are everywhere and just as evident they prowl in the Villages too.

Right, and hopefully with the right training you don’t shoot your foot or another Villager instead of the perp.

Babbs1957 08-21-2025 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyGrown (Post 2455472)
It pays to carry a loaded gun. Criminals are everywhere and just as evident they prowl in the Villages too.


Agree.

Bill14564 08-21-2025 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyGrown (Post 2455472)
It pays to carry a loaded gun. Criminals are everywhere and just as evident they prowl in the Villages too.

I am much more worried about a Villager with a loaded gun than a prowling criminal.

jimhoward 08-21-2025 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2455476)
I am much more worried about a Villager with a loaded gun than a prowling criminal.

Me too.

Aces4 08-21-2025 10:50 PM

[QUOTE=Bill14564;2455476]I am much more worried about a Villager with a loaded gun than a prowling criminal "with a loaded gun"?
I added with the loaded gun because the felon was carrying a gun. I wouldn't want either but being shot accidently by a Villager protecting himself or herself is preferable than some d*mn felon shooting me.

Normal 08-22-2025 03:59 AM

Agree
 
[QUOTE=Aces4;2455502]
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2455476)
I am much more worried about a Villager with a loaded gun than a prowling criminal "with a loaded gun"?
I added with the loaded gun because the felon was carrying a gun. I wouldn't want either but being shot accidently by a Villager protecting himself or herself is preferable than some d*mn felon shooting me.

I totally agree. I would much rather be an accidental casualty than the victim of predetermined nefarious intentions. There are already a lot of Villagers carrying guns, it makes the place safer.

defrey12 08-22-2025 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2455476)
I am much more worried about a Villager with a loaded gun than a prowling criminal.

👍👍👍

SaucyJim 08-22-2025 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2455474)
Right, and hopefully with the right training you don’t shoot your foot or another Villager instead of the perp.

More likely I’d shoot the perp while protecting your unarmed ass. I’ll spend the night getting lawyered up and processed and you’ll go home to your comfy couch and watch TV shows about events like the one you survived thanks to me.

Retiredsteve 08-22-2025 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2455474)
Right, and hopefully with the right training you don’t shoot your foot or another Villager instead of the perp.

Let them go, it's their last vestige of manhood they have

SaucyJim 08-22-2025 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2455476)
I am much more worried about a Villager with a loaded gun than a prowling criminal.

Your worries are misplaced. There are many of us around you exercising our rights to conceal carry all the time. Your ignorance is embarrassing you. But I forgive you, for you know not what you do.

thevillages2013 08-22-2025 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SaucyJim (Post 2455529)
More likely I’d shoot the perp while protecting your unarmed ass. I’ll spend the night getting lawyered up and processed and you’ll go home to your comfy couch and watch TV shows about events like the one you survived thanks to me.

Saucy but true, Saucy!

Taltarzac725 08-22-2025 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SaucyJim (Post 2455532)
Your worries are misplaced. There are many of us around you exercising our rights to conceal carry all the time. Your ignorance is embarrassing you. But I forgive you, for you know not what you do.

But there are some rather inebriated Villagers as well as hotheads full of adrenaline along with men and women with Alzheimer's or some other kind of dementia with weapons that can kill another person in seconds. It only takes there being one of these rather than a well trained and very level headed concealed gun carrier for there to be a tragedy. I also wonder about the aim of the inebriated.


I would rather the police handle these things.

BlackHarley 08-22-2025 06:19 AM

When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away!

NoMo50 08-22-2025 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2455464)
Those crimes will probably net him a month in jail and parole. The ole gray mare (The Villages) ain't what she used to be. :(

Wrong answer, and this ain't the criminal coddling environs of some states. In Florida, the minimum sentence for discharging a firearm during a carjacking is 20 years. Add to that kidnapping, and the fact the perp is a convicted felony, and the sentence could very well be life.

Taltarzac725 08-22-2025 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackHarley (Post 2455539)
When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away!

And so are bullets coming out of a weapon of a drunk who cannot shoot straight.

The Old West towns had rules about guns in towns for good reasons. And these were usually men in the prime of their live blowing off steam.

I have no problem with a professionally trained concealed gun carrier. But there probably fewer of these out there than a person who is itching to pull a gun.

NoMo50 08-22-2025 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2455476)
I am much more worried about a Villager with a loaded gun than a prowling criminal.

Each year, the Sumter County Sheriff holds HR-218 qualifications for retired law enforcement officers. This is a federal statute that allows retired LE to carry concealed firearms anywhere in the US, it's territories, or possessions. Annual qualification is required to maintain certification. This year, the Sheriff's Department qualified over 600 retired LE under the statute.

In this life, there are wolves, there are sheep, and there are sheepdogs. I know which tribe I belong to.

Marmaduke 08-22-2025 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2455464)
Those crimes will probably net him a month in jail and parole. The ole gray mare (The Villages) ain't what she used to be. :(

Many Villagers are still licenced and HIGHLY competant concealed carry gun owners, believe me.

This lifelong fumbling felon is lucky to be alive.

Furthermore, the follow-up story with the other local 'news' source, (and I use that term loosely) is utterly ridiculous, with a pretty clear portrayal of events, but a series of fragmented, incomplete writing leaving the readers left dangling.

ie., he held a gun to a man's head and moved him from the back to the front of the store...he grabbed an employee by the arm as he moved past her.

Then what?
Obviously, he must've decided to release them as he got to the front door.

Taltarzac725 08-22-2025 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmaduke (Post 2455550)
Many Villagers are still licenced and HIGHLY competant concealed carry gun owners, believe me.

This lifelong fumbling felon is lucky to be alive.

Furthermore, the follow-up story with the other local 'news' source, (and I use that term loosely) is utterly ridiculous, with a pretty clear portrayal of events, but a series of fragmented, incomplete writing leaving the readers left dangling.

ie., he held a gun to a man's head and moved him from the back to the front of the store...he grabbed an employee by the arm as he moved past her.

Then what?
Obviously, he must've decided to release them as he got to the front door.

And it is a lottery if one of these will be around rather than a drunk with a pistol he should never have left the house with .

bark4me 08-22-2025 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2455444)
Deputies arrested an armed man accused of threatening multiple Villagers during attempted carjackings on Wednesday night. The Sumter County Sheriff’s Office received multiple 911 calls reporting an armed man attempting to enter vehicles at the Walgreens and nearby at the Colony Cottage Recreation Center on Colony Boulevard around 8:15 p.m. Wednesday night.* When deputies arrived,

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To dispel many of you who know not what you say..... Many of those who carry concealed routinely practice and train. Just stop by Shooters World and see how busy their ranges are. With comments like yours, don't be upset if the person who carrys only defends their life and not yours!

Beyond The Wall 08-22-2025 06:48 AM

Due too High Price
 
Due to the high price of ammo, no warning shots fired.
Always carry, have rear doors on auto lock. Also carry to squares.

Also keep building low price apartments surrounding The Villages. Brings in a nice class of people.

The Villages has pretty much escaped the rest of “ The world’s gone crazy” syndrome . There have been incidents but it’s a big, and getting bigger, place.

Babbs1957 08-22-2025 07:06 AM

The house with the burglar alarm signs and cameras cause the criminal to move on to those houses without.

The idea behind CCW is the similar to the idea of having police on every corner. A city that supports their police and their judicial system sends a message to criminals that it's better to move on to another location to create your crimes.

A state that supports CCW sends the message to criminals that it's best not to come here and commit your crimes. Sure there will always be criminals, but pure animals would come into this country and go to those locations where they had little to no fear of arrest or life stopping arrest.

I'm all for sending the message that this area and Florida is against crime. This way the animals of the world will go to other states where they can be supported.

RoseyRed 08-22-2025 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2455444)
Deputies arrested an armed man accused of threatening multiple Villagers during attempted carjackings on Wednesday night. The Sumter County Sheriff’s Office received multiple 911 calls reporting an armed man attempting to enter vehicles at the Walgreens and nearby at the Colony Cottage Recreation Center on Colony Boulevard around 8:15 p.m. Wednesday night.* When deputies arrived,

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Wow! Considering all the Vets in TV I am surprised he did not meet up with his demise!

New Englander 08-22-2025 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2455544)
Wrong answer, and this ain't the criminal coddling environs of some states. In Florida, the minimum sentence for discharging a firearm during a carjacking is 20 years. Add to that kidnapping, and the fact the perp is a convicted felony, and the sentence could very well be life.

I hope so.

ThirdOfFive 08-22-2025 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Babbs1957 (Post 2455556)
The house with the burglar alarm signs and cameras cause the criminal to move on to those houses without.

The idea behind CCW is the similar to the idea of having police on every corner. A city that supports their police and their judicial system sends a message to criminals that it's better to move on to another location to create your crimes.

A state that supports CCW sends the message to criminals that it's best not to come here and commit your crimes. Sure there will always be criminals, but pure animals would come into this country and go to those locations where they had little to no fear of arrest or life stopping arrest.

I'm all for sending the message that this area and Florida is against crime. This way the animals of the world will go to other states where they can be supported.

True.

Back in MN when permit-to-carry went into effect, a lot of anti-gun business people (convenience stores, liquor stores, gas stations, etc.) put those "No Guns Allowed On These Premises" signs in their windows. The signs came down right quick when it became apparent that the places with the signs were being hit by the criminals far more often than places with no signs.

Criminals as a group may not be the sharpest knives on the tree, but they know enough not to unduly risk their posteriors during the commission of a crime.

Mrfriendly 08-22-2025 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2455476)
I am much more worried about a Villager with a loaded gun than a prowling criminal.

With majority of residents being retired police, military and fire veterans I’m not worried.

dougjb 08-22-2025 07:37 AM

The Villages: A Hot Bed of Crime!

Time to call in the National Guard! Let's see those armored troop carriers at every one of our roundabouts!

Taltarzac725 08-22-2025 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 2455579)
The Villages: A Hot Bed of Crime!

Time to call in the National Guard! Let's see those armored troop carriers at every one of our roundabouts!

Who pays for them? The Villagers?

MrFlorida 08-22-2025 07:54 AM

I can't believe how many posters would rather be a victim than defend themselves.

gorillarick 08-22-2025 08:09 AM

"Held without bail, how unfair, call the Civil Liberties Union."

said no one that was threatened by this criminal

Taltarzac725 08-22-2025 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2455589)
I can't believe how many posters would rather be a victim than defend themselves.

You are not a victim if you do not need to carry a weapon to go to the Squares or the movies or Walmart.

ElDiabloJoe 08-22-2025 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2455546)
And so are bullets coming out of a weapon of a drunk who cannot shoot straight.

The Old West towns had rules about guns in towns for good reasons. And these were usually men in the prime of their live blowing off steam.

I have no problem with a professionally trained concealed gun carrier. But there probably fewer of these out there than a person who is itching to pull a gun.

I suspect there are A LOT of retired cops here in The Villages, more so than you probably think. Most will not tell you what they did for a living and have a cover-occupation they tell people.

ThirdOfFive 08-22-2025 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2455589)
I can't believe how many posters would rather be a victim than defend themselves.

It is like any other hot-button issue, I suppose. Emotion gets in the way of reason.

Funny how it can manifest itself. My wife threw a surprise birthday party for me about a year before retirement. People attending ran the gamut: A British couple, my son, some co-workers, a couple of tennis-playing buddies, the director of the local mental health facility, etc. One of the gifts I got was from my son: a Browning B-92 lever action carbine in .357 Magnum, still in the original box and in mint condition! They were collectors' items even then and I verified that mine was manufactured in 1982, the first year they made them in that caliber. After unwrapping it I cleared it and handed it around so people could see it close-up. When it got to the mental health facility director she handled it as if it were red hot, with an expression on her face that was frozen in a grimace! However when Will (the Brit guy) got it he threw it up to his shoulder and cycled the action several times.

Guns are a hot-button issue clouded by emotion. If we're taught to fear them, no amount of information or reason will allay that fear.

kingofbeer 08-22-2025 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyGrown (Post 2455472)
It pays to carry a loaded gun. Criminals are everywhere and just as evident they prowl in the Villages too.

Sure. He would have shot anyone who approached him with a gun. He is an ex-felon.

kingofbeer 08-22-2025 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2455464)
Those crimes will probably net him a month in jail and parole. The ole gray mare (The Villages) ain't what she used to be. :(

He will be convicted of multiple offenses and will never get out. Florida is very harsh on repeat offenders.

kingofbeer 08-22-2025 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SaucyJim (Post 2455529)
More likely I’d shoot the perp while protecting your unarmed ass. I’ll spend the night getting lawyered up and processed and you’ll go home to your comfy couch and watch TV shows about events like the one you survived thanks to me.

maybe the perp will you shoot you first.


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