Natural gas to existing home - Cost of interior plumbing? Any experiences?
 

Good morning,

TECO Gas has quoted me a cost to pull a gas line to my home and install a meter.

The plumbing from the meter to the appliances would be extra and done by a qualified plumber.

I've asked my plumbing company for a quote, but they won't do so until the meter is installed. I am reluctant to start the project without a relatively clear understanding of total costs.

If you've done this, at your place, about how much did you pay for the interior plumbing from the meter?

Thanks in advance

Don't do it. Gas stoves elevate benzene levels in the home, and there is a direct link to several different cancers.

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Why would there be construction
 

Why would there be a homebuilt without natural gas here? Are you positive there is no hook up?

Many of us opted to build homes with no indoor gas hookups.

If you want to get a true estimate call other companies approved to install gas lines. The one you called evidently doesn't need your business.

You didn’t mention the plumbing company…Mike Scott has a gas department, have you tried them?

Mike Scott is who I called and who has proven themselves to be the plumbing house I trust. I respect that their hands are tied, not knowing exactly where the meter is going to be located....I don't have that information, yet....so that they can give me an actual proposal.

So, I don't want to kick off the project without a good idea of the total cost, but Mike Scott can't quote me until the project is half finished....a conundrum.

Thus I'm fishing for information from folks who have experience with this project to fill in the gaps about the interior plumbing costs.

You might want to consider an induction cooktop or stove, we got one over a year ago and I really like it.

I totally respect that advice, Tinker.

I was on the precipice of ordering an induction....one very highly rated by Consumer Reports.

THEN I learned that I was able to invest in this project....and get back to cooking on my beloved natural gas.

I've been here five months, struggling with a GE Profile electric that is original to the home and NOT up to my standards.

Finding out that I CAN get back to NG has been very intriguing and alluring. But I am not one to initiate projects without a fairly clear understanding of the total outlay. I don't have that understanding, at this point.

If the interior plumbing costs, added to the TECO costs to run the line and install the meter, make this a project whose costs I don't want to bear, I will definitely pull the trigger on induction!

In case not aware, new construction uses Corrugated Stainless Steel Tubing (CSST) for gas lines in the attic. This tubing is susceptible to damage due to nearby lighting strikes and is suspected if damaged, to be an accelerant of fires for home struck by lightning.

Suggest to discuss with the installer to avoid running gas lines in the attic and use iron pipe in lieu of CSST where possible.

This study was based on living areas that had inadequate ventilation and range hoods the recirculated air.

Modern building codes prescribe adaquate ventilation to mitigate the risk.

After using induction you may find that your beloved NG is your second place girl. Induction is going to give you even faster of temperature changes when you make adjustments than NG.

I'm opposite of you. After chasing to get back to NG for years, I moved to Induction at my home in the north and love it. I have NG here and find myself wishing I was in an electric only home and pondering running the 220 line to the kitchen.

NG is definitely better than old style electric, but Induction is better in every way that matters to me than NG.

Good luck with your project. You'd think Mike Scott could give you something budgetary like if it's here then around $X without boxing themselves into a corner.

In the older homes in The Villages, they used ductless recirculating vents that while were OK to remove smoke and smells, did nothing to remove benzine from the air.

The new homes are ducted to the outdoors, but lets be honest here - most people don't turn on the fans when they are cooking.

The only way to provide "adequate ventilation" is to open the windows and leave them open for about half an hour after cooking. Nobody is doing that.

IMO not worth it. electric appliances work fine, not worth cost and extra bill IMO. I have gas with CSST lines in attic which IMO outrageously dangerous, I lowered mine down close to attic floor which may reduce danger lightning strike? If I knew dangers I would never brought house with them, but I didn’t.

IMO should be class action law suit for them ran in attics, but that me. If you get gas installed don’ t let them install CSST yellow lines high in attic like I suspect hundreds of CYVs in villages? Hope you don’t have block or poured concrete frame house? IMO think that would make it harder?

Let's make sure we differentiate induction from the usual electric stovetops. Professional chefs are moving to induction away from gas since control is more precise and just as fast, if not faster, then gas. Technology moves forward and induction is changing the way food is prepared. I wonder what's next :)

We chose to get an all electric house as well because of safety reasons and we didn't need yet another "Transport" charge for the gas since we would have only used it for cooking and maybe the drier. We changed the stove to induction and love it. Much better than NG.

I also know many who removed NG from their homes for many reasons.

After reading all of the replies it occurred to me you did not mention if the kitchen had an outside wall and if this would be where the stove would be located. A neighbor had a propane tank installed, then lines to the kitchen and outdoor grill. As noted above the new lines will go in the attic if the stove cannot be accessed by an outside wall. Also I would include suitable ventilation, THROUGH the roof, not into the attic. I had a gas stove back up north, then the typical electric stove here for around 11 years till it broke, then an induction. Really like the induction, but we did have to get some new pans.

There are many neighborhoods without natural gas!!!

I cooked with gas for 40 years. Everything you love about gas cooking is better with induction.

True, but most homes here with electric stoves and microwave ovens over the top of them do not have adequate ventilation. Adequate ventilation means you can’t have a microwave oven over the stove, so you need somewhere else to put it. You need to have a good range hood installed with a big fan, and you need an exhaust vent either through the side wall of your house (if your stove is on an outside wall) or through the ceiling and roof. And it means actually using the range hood whenever the stove is used (including the oven). You may also need another vent in the wall of the kitchen to let in fresh air to make up for what has been exhausted. If you don’t have one, the fan will try to suck air from outside through any little openings, like around doors and windows, but homes are much better sealed now than they were when we were kids. Without this exhausting and fresh air, you could end up with a “sick house.”

This is an expense of several thousand dollars that the original poster needs to figure into the budget.

Lake Deaton and a few villages near Brownwood are all electric. Don’t know why, but the developers just didn’t put in gas.

We have an induction stove top. Best appliance that we have ever owned. Brings a small pot of water to boiling level in < 2 minutes and "burner" stays at room temp

Tinker, I appreciate the thorough consideration of my inquiry.

I have abandoned the natural gas project.

My Frigidaire induction electric range, highly recommended by Consumer Reports, delivers Wednesday.

Found a very good deal through Costco Online!

Thank you to EVERYONE who had opinions.

Good luck @WiscoDogsDad! Do come back and tell us how you feel about induction even if you don't love it, maybe especially if you don't.

Just what the world needs...more fear mongering. Don't believe everything you read.

I like gas stoves too. Due to the open concept design of our home and intense lightening storms in the villages, I started using induction along side my gas stove. I just tossed the gas stove and installed an LG induction range. Love it. Fewer fumes and great temperature control. We are slowly converting away from gas because of gas line lightening hits. Happy hunting!

OP is asking for Price experience, just because some are in fear of using NG doesn’t mean everybody else is. So no help there.

OP i can give you some idea however this cost was over eight years ago. The gas line was only to go to dryer and stove, which were 11’ apart on same wall. Along with ability for tankless heater.

The rough estimate was $1300. We have induction stove, and gas in our northern homes. One knows there is no way that you should be moving that pan back-and-forth on an induction stove.( yes I have horrid marks on induction top from my 125yo cast iron pans.)

It’s one of the reasons why we wanted gas and the line was relatively close to the house.
However we ended up selling and building a NG home.

The Village of Bradford does not have gas available.

You might want to go with propane, they will come out and bury a tank and fill it whenever needed, just run a line thru the wall to the back of the stove, easy, peasy

Prefer electric appliances
 

Purchased our new home in The Villages that had gas. Paid extra for an electric range, the wiring to the range, and a larger electrical panel. For some reason, the builder still ran a gas line to the range location. Every home we have lived in for the past 60 years I either put in an electric range or it was already in place. Can't justify cooking on a gas fire when electric is safer for my wife.

We had a natural gas up north for 35 years. Did not want Electric when we got here. We got induction and it’s every bit as good as gas. We have had the induction for eight years.

How is NG removed from a home? Is it pricey? I know we have the gas line in the attic of our 3 y/o home. We’d then have to replace our gas stove and dryer, but I’d love to have an induction stove. Hubby I’m sure though would hate to see our $400+ summer monthly electric bill shoot up even higher, but would do it to get the gas line out of the attic if it was affordable.

Wow $400+ electric seems high, unless you keep super low temps. Our highest in 2.5 years was $236. Our temp is 76° during the day 73° at night. But we are only cooling 2900+sf. Our downfall is leaving sliders open too often going in & out to the pool.

Our 3 y/o veranda home south of 44 has a microwave over the gas stove. The fan is in the microwave, which sounds like it’s not an efficient way to exhaust the gas fumes from our stove. Our kitchen is in the middle of the house so gas lines run through the attic, and I’m guessing the exhaust fan is routed into the attic. Sounds like this isn’t a great situation. We never open windows, and rarely think to turn on the fan.

Temps 73 day, 72 night, sometimes lower. Two minisplits in lanai, one in garage, and last summer had a whole house dehumidifier installed in attic that likely runs 24/7. I have it set at 45% because I can’t stand the humidity. I grew up in, and moved from a dry desert climate, so I will never get used to the humidity. Stove and dryer are the only gas appliances. No pool.

Home is a veranda Mason 4 br, 3 bth, 2300 sf + 400 sf lanai that’s always open to the house except when we’re sleeping.

Garage temp is set at 78 unless we need it lower while working out there. Last month’s electric bill was $445. Totally worth it to me for the comfort level we have in our home. Hubby is happy if I’m happy. Winter electric bill is much lower obviously.

I have had gas stoves all my adult life and my mother prior to then. No cancer here.

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If you have a Designer home your microwave is vented to the attic and out onto the roof. I an not sure if all of them are, check the attic and look for a pipe.

They just remove the gas meter supplying the gas to your home and cap off the inlet to your home. There is no reason to remover the flexible gas tubing throughout your home.

Don’t do it. I had natural gas for decades and when we came down here we only had electric, which I hated. Got an induction and it is better than gas. I cannot be happier. Best decision I ever made.