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Guest 06-04-2011 08:31 AM

And she could have been our Vice President
 
According to Sarah...." The Americans are waiting, The Americans are ready" Paul Revere cried, warning the British.
Richie, wonder what she would have scored on your civic literacty exam? :doh:

Guest 06-04-2011 08:33 AM

Oops...spelled literacy wrong. I imajin you'll jump all over that. :doh:

Guest 06-04-2011 09:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 359643)
According to Sarah...." The Americans are waiting, The Americans are ready" Paul Revere cried, warning the British.
Richie, wonder what she would have scored on your civic literacty exam? :doh:

Actually, it's a funny thing. Sarah Palin was correct, and what we were taught in elementary school was a bit of patriotic theatre.

I didn't know this bit of history of this often told tale of our strive for independence, and you will learn something as I have.

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.co...apologize.html

Guest 06-04-2011 12:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 359661)
Actually, it's a funny thing. Sarah Palin was correct, and what we were taught in elementary school was a bit of patriotic theatre.

I didn't know this bit of history of this often told tale of our strive for independence, and you will learn something as I have.

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.co...apologize.html

That may very well be true...but I'm not buying that Sarah had any clue about the part of the history. :doh:

Guest 06-04-2011 01:11 PM

You are not illiterate.
 
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That may very well be true...but I'm not buying that Sarah had any clue about the part of the history. :doh:

Nor did you have any clue .. does that make you illiterate ?
I don't think so.
JJ

Guest 06-04-2011 01:19 PM

It's amazes..
 
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It's pretty amazing the lengths people will go to explain away Palin's cluelessness. A complete self-consistent (or not self-consistent) alternate universe does not have to be created. Sometimes the simple explanation is the correct explanation: the woman is just stupid. Nothing more, nothing less.

It is true that the commonly believed account of Paul Revere leaves something to be desired, being based more on Longfellow's poem than actual events. But this still doesn't justify the elaborate explanations for Palin.

As an aside, the George Washington cherry tree story is also highly suspect. I hope that doesn't shatter too many people's belief systems.

It amazes me that starting with the last election, the left chose to attack Palin by calling her stupid..
Now that she has made millions, overshadowed all of the other candidates including Obama and Romney, they are calling her shrewd and clever to describe how she has made millions, and can take over the national stage any time she wants to. Some even have the timidity to say it is because of her "looks" and she is an "attractive" candidate. The stupid approach is out.. you need to get on the new liberal talking points.. she is a greedy "attractive" megalomaniac who uses her "looks" to get attention and she is only in it for the publicity and the money!
jj

Guest 06-04-2011 01:29 PM

It is also interesting that now that Palin's popularity is growing, that she has proven she can garner crowds and attention any time she wants to, the left is now saying what a strong candidate ROMNEY would be against President Obama. If they really wanted Palin to run as they always claimed, they would be saying.. see how popular and the crowds she can gather.. she can overshadow even the President and Romney.. she is the one that has the best chance against our President..
They are afraid of her and so should the Republican party. She really is the only person who can beat Obama. Her negatives are high because most people believe the bs the media puts out.. like about paul revere.... If they were willing to point out that on youtube you can watch our INTELLIGENT President say there are 58 states in America, and that when speaking publicly about our deceased Corpsman, he repeatedly in multiple speeches pronounces them as CORPSE MEN.. the public just might forget bloopers by all politicians and focus on the issues.. and if they do.. Palin will win the next election easily. The economy is going to crash and Obama is going to deservedly get the blame for making it worse with his big government, bailout, money printing, union payoff, welfare, philosophy.
JJ

Guest 06-04-2011 01:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 359685)
It's pretty amazing the lengths people will go to explain away Palin's cluelessness. A complete self-consistent (or not self-consistent) alternate universe does not have to be created. Sometimes the simple explanation is the correct explanation: the woman is just stupid. Nothing more, nothing less.

It is true that the commonly believed account of Paul Revere leaves something to be desired, being based more on Longfellow's poem than actual events. But this still doesn't justify the elaborate explanations for Palin.

As an aside, the George Washington cherry tree story is also highly suspect. I hope that doesn't shatter too many people's belief systems.

The lengths that people will go has been artfully demonstrated by you. Ms. Palin knew the actual history of an event that you (and I) only knew the fable and, of course, she is "still clueless" and your are .................... what?

She knew the historical facts and you only knew the fable, but that reality is an "elaborate explanation". You gotta know how stupid that sounds.

How about "I'm sorry Gov. Palin, I was wrong and I apologize". C'mon you'll feel better about yourself.

Guest 06-04-2011 01:59 PM

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It is also interesting that now that Palin's popularity is growing, that she has proven she can garner crowds and attention any time she wants to, the left is now saying what a strong candidate ROMNEY would be against President Obama. If they really wanted Palin to run as they always claimed, they would be saying.. see how popular and the crowds she can gather.. she can overshadow even the President and Romney.. she is the one that has the best chance against our President..
They are afraid of her and so should the Republican party. She really is the only person who can beat Obama. Her negatives are high because most people believe the bs the media puts out.. like about paul revere.... If they were willing to point out that on youtube you can watch our INTELLIGENT President say there are 58 states in America, and that when speaking publicly about our deceased Corpsman, he repeatedly in multiple speeches pronounces them as CORPSE MEN.. the public just might forget bloopers by all politicians and focus on the issues.. and if they do.. Palin will win the next election easily. The economy is going to crash and Obama is going to deservedly get the blame for making it worse with his big government, bailout, money printing, union payoff, welfare, philosophy.
JJ

JJAnd that liberal media you are talking about are crying foul because Palin did not give them an advanced notice of her bus trip and they cried that trying to keep up with her was causing near accidents and that they were treated like paparazziHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm who is stupid now and why is the liberal media so upset that they can't get the coverage they covet for this stupid stupid woman.

bottom line she has bigger you know what than most male candidates running an especially the incumbent.

Guest 06-04-2011 02:23 PM

More nonsense
 
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It amazes me that starting with the last election, the left chose to attack Palin by calling her stupid..
Some even have the timidity to say it is because of her "looks" and she is an "attractive" candidate. The stupid approach is out.. you need to get on the new liberal talking points.. she is a greedy "attractive" megalomaniac who uses her "looks" to get attention and she is only in it for the publicity and the money!
jj

Do they also have the temerity to say it is because of her looks? BTW, Palin is a total idiot, a quitter and not qualified to be elected dog catcher. She couldn't even remember VP Biden's last name during their debate in 2008. That's why she asked him at the outset if it was ok for her to call him Joe. I'd pay money to see a Republican party debate between Palin and Bachman. Wonder what the over/under would be on historical misrepresentations? One of my favorites was the one about how the founding fathers ended slavery.

Guest 06-04-2011 02:28 PM

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JJAnd that liberal media you are talking about are crying foul because Palin did not give them an advanced notice of her bus trip and they cried that trying to keep up with her was causing near accidents and that they were treated like paparazziHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm who is stupid now and why is the liberal media so upset that they can't get the coverage they covet for this stupid stupid woman.

bottom line she has bigger you know what than most male candidates running an especially the incumbent.

VERY good points. One more.. and they still refuse to say that the reason they cover her is because she is popular.
JJ

Guest 06-04-2011 03:21 PM

Since when does popularity equate with intelligence in America? Think about who was popular in high school. Palin may be popular but she is dumb as a rock.

Guest 06-04-2011 03:24 PM

Another gotcha
 
She could have been VP, but isn't. Just remember who is now a heartbeat away from the job and up until the last Election who was next in line after Joe Biden.

If that doesn't trouble you, remember the other candidate who was a darling of many Liberals, who could have become President...........drum roll please, why it's John Edwards.

So if you want to go after Mrs. Pallin, remember who we got stuck with or could have.

Guest 06-04-2011 03:28 PM

I heard a great quote that I think was by George Will. He said there are two infinites in the world; the ever expanding universe, and the media's obsession with Sarah Palin; and she plays them like a fiddle.

Gov. Palin says she owes the liberal media nothing, and on her bus tour, that's exactly what she's giving them. Then they have the cojones to say she is creating a dangerous situation because they are forced to chase her like paparazzi. How about just not following her. They can't; because she is the story no matter what she does. This is what is causing the fear in her detractors. It like what was pointed out earlier in this thread. If Gov. Palin is so beatable, why aren't her opponents pointing out what an attractive candidate she is?

They're trying to sucker us into voting Romney in the primary because he is the one who is eminently beatable with RomneyCare, his favoring of ethanol subsidies, and now his stated belief in man made global warming. He's the John McCain of 2011 and that is why the liberal media is stroking him.

Guest 06-04-2011 03:29 PM

Keith Olbermann's most famous quote, and one I subscribe to "That woman is an idiot"

Guest 06-04-2011 03:44 PM

Mr. Olbermann is where now and doing what?

Guest 06-04-2011 05:37 PM

Libs know Obama is going to get wiped out in the next election so they just sling mud in all directions hoping something will stick. I know, it's lame but that's what they do.

They just can't come to terms with their miserable failure of a President. Never before have we had such an anti-America President and they just can't see it... or don't want too.

Guest 06-04-2011 05:44 PM

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Keith Olbermann's most famous quote, and one I subscribe to "That woman is an idiot"

I agree. She is a quitter. When things got a little hot in Alaska, she resigned. Whether it was for political reasons or she wanted to make the big bucks while she could...she quit as Governor. That shows great lack of character in my opinion.

Guest 06-04-2011 05:52 PM

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I agree. She is a quitter. When things got a little hot in Alaska, she resigned. Whether it was for political reasons or she wanted to make the big bucks while she could...she quit as Governor. That shows great lack of character in my opinion.

If she had stayed Governor, would we be talking about her right now and would she be a multi millionaire? That does not sound like a move made by a stupid person.
JJ

Guest 06-04-2011 05:53 PM

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Libs know Obama is going to get wiped out in the next election so they just sling mud in all directions hoping something will stick. I know, it's lame but that's what they do.

They just can't come to terms with their miserable failure of a President. Never before have we had such an anti-America President and they just can't see it... or don't want too.

Did you take your medication today? :doh:

Guest 06-04-2011 05:56 PM

Guess I am stupid too..
 
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Do they also have the temerity to say it is because of her looks? BTW, Palin is a total idiot, a quitter and not qualified to be elected dog catcher. She couldn't even remember VP Biden's last name during their debate in 2008. That's why she asked him at the outset if it was ok for her to call him Joe. I'd pay money to see a Republican party debate between Palin and Bachman. Wonder what the over/under would be on historical misrepresentations? One of my favorites was the one about how the founding fathers ended slavery.

Guess I am stupid too because liberals never make mistakes like clicking on the wrong spell check line.
JJ

Guest 06-04-2011 06:06 PM

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I agree. She is a quitter. When things got a little hot in Alaska, she resigned. Whether it was for political reasons or she wanted to make the big bucks while she could...she quit as Governor. That shows great lack of character in my opinion.

All you're believing is the liberal media spin on her stepping down as Governor and that's probably due to a bias against the woman that you have.

In Alaska anyone and everyone can file an ethics complaint against the governor and hundreds of liberal activists, and other people, who have Sarah Palin derangement syndrome like you and Dale and Actor and Bugs, did. She was obligated, by law, to answer these frivolous complaints, of which none bore fruit, and spend many thousands of dollars doing so, and it completely took over her life in the Governor's mansion.

So, in the state's best interests and the best interests of her and her family she decided to step down rather that play that game. Did it destroy her? Heck no; she's bigger and more powerful and influential than ever, and that's just eating your craw, isn't it.

There's no political figure in the country who has more influence than the former governor of Alaska. Ain't that a kick?

I know you and the other haters will tear into my conclusions, but it doesn't bother me one bit. You betcha!!

Guest 06-04-2011 08:15 PM

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All you're believing is the liberal media spin on her stepping down as Governor and that's probably due to a bias against the woman that you have.

In Alaska anyone and everyone can file an ethics complaint against the governor and hundreds of liberal activists, and other people, who have Sarah Palin derangement syndrome like you and Dale and Actor and Bugs, did. She was obligated, by law, to answer these frivolous complaints, of which none bore fruit, and spend many thousands of dollars doing so, and it completely took over her life in the Governor's mansion.

So, in the state's best interests and the best interests of her and her family she decided to step down rather that play that game. Did it destroy her? Heck no; she's bigger and more powerful and influential than ever, and that's just eating your craw, isn't it.

There's no political figure in the country who has more influence than the former governor of Alaska. Ain't that a kick?

I know you and the other haters will tear into my conclusions, but it doesn't bother me one bit. You betcha!!

You betcha, by golly! Sarah Palin is powerful and influential but to just a small minority of folks. Lord knows why they consider her a leader and anyone with any notion of how lead or govern. Personally, I think she is dumb like a fox and laughing all the way to the bank, really not caring one way or the other what happens to this great country of ours. :doh:

Guest 06-04-2011 08:44 PM

Sarah Palin is everything that is wrong with America. She is an anti-intellectual soundbite who says nothing of substance. She is not very smart and proud of it. Her description of Reveres' ride is a disgrace and can only be defended by other anti-intellectuals.

Guest 06-04-2011 09:23 PM

spelink stuf rong
 
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Oops...spelled literacy wrong. I imajin you'll jump all over that. :doh:

Do we eben haf spelink poleicez stil ? I hain't bin tur apard by no Anal Retentive spelink turds in a longue tyme.

Guest 06-04-2011 10:28 PM

Richie,

I had not even posted on this thread and you name me as a Caribou Barbie trasher. What gives?

Hope to see you Monday night at Urban Flats. Hope the Yeungling is ice-cold.

Guest 06-04-2011 11:07 PM

I had heard that there were not very many lefty loonies in TV. I guess not all info is correct.

C

Guest 06-04-2011 11:09 PM

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Richie,

I had not even posted on this thread and you name me as a Caribou Barbie trasher. What gives?

Hope to see you Monday night at Urban Flats. Hope the Yeungling is ice-cold.

I couldn't leave you out bro; it wouldn't have been fair; and with your Caribou Barbie reference, you know I'm right in including you. If nothing else, I'm thinking of you.

Guest 06-04-2011 11:11 PM

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You betcha, by golly! Sarah Palin is powerful and influential but to just a small minority of folks. Lord knows why they consider her a leader and anyone with any notion of how lead or govern. Personally, I think she is dumb like a fox and laughing all the way to the bank, really not caring one way or the other what happens to this great country of ours. :doh:

Small minority? She was the king maker in the mid-term elections; you betcha. She will be more influential this time around. Get used to see her every time you look around and see your liberal media heros bumping each other out of the way to get close to her. It's a crazy world Dale, and you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Guest 06-05-2011 04:54 AM

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I had heard that there were not very many lefty loonies in TV. I guess not all info is correct.

C

You better watch out - we "lefties" live next door or maybe across the street. There are more of us than you think and our numbers are growing every day. You probably waited in line at Publix with one right in front of you, but don't worry - intelligence is not contagious!

Guest 06-05-2011 05:38 AM

And the beat goes on....
 
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Popcorn anyone

Guest 06-05-2011 06:04 AM

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You better watch out - we "lefties" live next door or maybe across the street. There are more of us than you think and our numbers are growing every day. You probably waited in line at Publix with one right in front of you, but don't worry - intelligence is not contagious!

I am not a leftie and I am not an extreme rightie. I guess I am a moderate, but my trouble with Sarah Palin is not that she isn't smart, but that she seems too impulsive and I feel she isn't very polished, for lack of better words.

Everyone is entitled to her own opinion, but I wouldn't choose her as a close friend. I think she has guts. I think she has her own style, but she is not speaking to me, or pushing my right buttons.

I don't think she is quite old enough to have aquired enough life knowledge. I think her family is kind of at sixes and sevens. We have raised a mentally challenged child and know what time and dedication that job is all on it's own.

It can be argued that none of these things can or should be considered as a detriment to running for the highest office in the country, but it is a detriment to me.

All votes matter. All voters matter.

Oh boy, here I am in political again.

Guest 06-05-2011 08:46 AM

I've said it before, I don't hate Palin. I just think she's ill-suited to the task oif anything of real substance. I've repeatedly given a list of reasons why I'm no fan of her (except for some respect for her business acumen). I mean, some people make fun of her bus tour and how an "unemplyed woman" can get people to fund her PAC so she can take her kids on a cross-country vacation. And, apparently that *IS* legal since she has NOT formally declared herself as a candidate. But other things..

Complaining that the media won't let her alone - while travelling in a shrink-wrapped bus DESIGNED to get attention.

Saying it's not for publicity. That's the biggest example of clulessness or being disingenuous I've seen in a while.

Her comments on Paul Revere - since when was he firing shots and ringing bells? I mean, if you want to position the ride as a colonial referendum on gun guntrol, can you at least get your facts straight? Hint: Dawes and Prescott did far more and can we finally tell people that WE WERE BRITISH AT THE TIME! (The cry could have been 'the Regulars are coming' - meaning the British Regular troops, the army. Saying "The British are coming" would be like someone in a compound saying "The Americans are coming" as opposed to "The Cops are coming!"

Guest 06-05-2011 08:52 AM

When we have a President who cannot speak in a way that shows real intelligence unless he is reading his text verbatim from a teleprompter, and he often flubs even that, it's really absurd to criticize others as not being Presidential caliber. How much more dopey can you look than our present President with his many, though under-publicized, to put it nicely, gaffes and in speaking and acting in his appearances.

Also you'll see, if you take the time, his insulting comments to some of our staunchest allies.

I'll just list a few links to show what I mean. I could list many more. But those who are deeply in love with Obama will never be able to sit through these that I've already linked.

Bush and Palin would have been roundly skewered for any of these examples.

http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/2...h-afghanistan/

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...elizabeth.html

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8oXw4FJF8g&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-AKcH3eC8&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

Guest 06-05-2011 08:55 AM

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I've said it before, I don't hate Palin. I just think she's ill-suited to the task oif anything of real substance. I've repeatedly given a list of reasons why I'm no fan of her (except for some respect for her business acumen). I mean, some people make fun of her bus tour and how an "unemplyed woman" can get people to fund her PAC so she can take her kids on a cross-country vacation. And, apparently that *IS* legal since she has NOT formally declared herself as a candidate. But other things..

Complaining that the media won't let her alone - while travelling in a shrink-wrapped bus DESIGNED to get attention.

Saying it's not for publicity. That's the biggest example of clulessness or being disingenuous I've seen in a while.

Her comments on Paul Revere - since when was he firing shots and ringing bells? I mean, if you want to position the ride as a colonial referendum on gun guntrol, can you at least get your facts straight? Hint: Dawes and Prescott did far more and can we finally tell people that WE WERE BRITISH AT THE TIME! (The cry could have been 'the Regulars are coming' - meaning the British Regular troops, the army. Saying "The British are coming" would be like someone in a compound saying "The Americans are coming" as opposed to "The Cops are coming!"

Did you read the link I posted and maybe then do your own research if you didn't trust the authors printed excerpts from historical records?

Somehow I don't think so.

Guest 06-05-2011 09:26 AM

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When we have a President who cannot speak in a way that shows real intelligence unless he is reading his text verbatim from a teleprompter, and he often flubs even that, it's really absurd to criticize others as not being Presidential caliber. How much more dopey can you look than our present President with his many, though under-publicized, to put it nicely, gaffes and in speaking and acting in his appearances.

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There you are with the teleprompter criticism again. Frankly, Richie, I thought you were above such tiresome and, candidly, stupid beliefs. :doh:

Guest 06-05-2011 09:42 AM

He's Obviously So Biased
 
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There you are with the teleprompter criticism again. Frankly, Richie, I thought you were above such tiresome and, candidly, stupid beliefs. :doh:

that he can't think in an objective manner when it comes to president Obama. He faults Obama's ability to present ideas intelligently, yet he worships GWB who had problems stringing two coherent sentences together. Look back at his posts after we got Bin Laden, and you can clearly see that he was angry that it was Obama that got him. I'm sure that deep down he would rather have Bin Laden still around than have Obama get any credit for his death.

Guest 06-05-2011 09:57 AM

Very predictable and very pathetic responses from 2 that I expect no more from.

Guest 06-05-2011 10:18 AM

I Know That When
 
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Very predictable and very pathetic responses from 2 that I expect no more from.

you can't come up with a response, you resort to dismissing others as predictable, etc.

Guest 06-05-2011 10:22 AM

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you can't come up with a response, you resort to dismissing others as predictable, etc.

My response was above. I don't have to say much more. Let me make it clear. The President is a terrible speaker unless he's reading a script, and maybe one of the worst I've ever seen. There's, no one, with the exception of Joe Biden, who is as flawed in thinking on their feet.


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